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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sp12

@SHAAVI Really like your optimism, I will be really happy if even 10% of what you are expecting comes true but unfortunately I have really low hopes in fact no hopes, I am watching the series out of habit and for the cute kids.

Same like you. No hopes at all. But watching for Dev Subh and Soha Golu



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Posted: 8 years ago

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Dev clearly said that he want to slow down now as he has worked throughout is life, missed his childhood, missed his first born childhood. And not only for Sonakshi he is doing it for himself. He wants to give his family time and he has always been a family person and money comes last for him. Personally i don't feel there is any problem in it.


N more than women empowerment, its liberating men. A guy wants to take rest and enjoy his family life. Bcz we all are so busy in supporting women empowerment or criticizingit we forget that gender equality includes both the sexes, female as well as male. N i have never seen enjoying so called "male privileges" of the society. In fact he has always been burdened with it.

Last but not the least, at least i don't under estimate Dev Dixit at all, specially when it comes to business. 7 yrs he made Vicky think that he is running the company when in reality he was just a puppet. I will wait for the story to unfold before passing on my judgement on Dev's intelligence.

Exactly dear and there is nothing of glorifying FL here balki this is showing Dev as a supportive husband and how he is going to live his childhood
People are finding it a problem shows that our society will never change
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Devakshilover

Exactly dear and there is nothing of glorifying FL here balki this is showing Dev as a supportive husband and how he is going to live his childhood
People are finding it a problem shows that our society will never change

Bingo in fact for me they are showing Dev in a better light. Not only supporting his wife but also enjoying a phase of life which he has missed. Has he ever done anything for his happiness earlier. N yes change is to start from our own self and mind then only we can expect others to change.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hello everyone,

Not for anything else, I am delighted to see so many of you coming back and posting your views. It was too quiet for past few days. I haven't seen today's episode yet so don't have anything to comment on. Due to change in timings, by the time I watch the episode and am ready to post, it's almost time for you all in India to watch next episode and send comments on new episode so right now I am only happy with reading everyone's posts.

As some of you mentioned, I am also watching the show as it comes without any further expectations - and as @Lakshmi mentioned, I am also watching our show more so for all the kids and Dev, especially Vidvaan and Shaheer. Watching Dev Dixit taking care of Shubh and Soha is so adorable to watch. I am so happy and content for Dev that finally he is living his childhood through his kids. And because I don't have any expectations from the show except for seeing Dev happy and content with his life, I think I am enjoying it more.

Thanks everyone who are posting their views. Whether I agree or disagree, they are certainly very enjoyable and I definitely look forward to reading them.

Sincerely,

Ji 😃
Edited by GKaPyar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: cscs

Bingo in fact for me they are showing Dev in a better light. Not only supporting his wife but also enjoying a phase of life which he has missed. Has he ever done anything for his happiness earlier. N yes change is to start from our own self and mind then only we can expect others to change.


Chaaru, if Sonakshi had wanted to go to work on her own accord, I would agree with you. But I do not find that being the case. Here she is not going back to work because she wants to, but because she feels like she "has" to. That there is no other option. Where there is a will, there is always a way. She could have compromised and said i will work from home. But she has made it very clear that she cannot "compromise" anything. For her it is all about her and it is once again all or nothing. She is not ready to change even one single aspect of her life. She could also have compromised on the number of days of the week like saying i will work in office for 3 days, while you work for the other 3 days of the week. They could have also shared the hours by saying that you take care of the baby in the morning and I will be with the baby in the afternoon. These kind of adjustments are possible only if both the partners are ready for such solutions.

But here Sonakshi is not prepared to accept anything where she needs to compromise. And that is what is the crux of these discussions. No doubt it is showing Dev in better light. But is it showing Sonakshi also in a better light?. My view is No. He is definitely going to enjoy his time with the kids. Vickky who always considered himself no less than Dev, will realize the kind of effort that Dev has actually put in into becoming Dev Dixit. He will understand what he did 7 years ago lost that sense of entitlement and greed that he so constantly displays. In the end of it Dev will be the better person of the lot and would have gained what his heart wanted. While both Sonakshi and Vickky will gain what their mind wanted.

Once again it comes back to "kya paate hain, kya khoote hain, jab dil ke faisle dimaag se karte hain". And as I said before the only way for Sonakshi to learn the blunders she has committed, to introspect about herself, she has to lose what she wants the most. And now she is set to lose just that.
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Posted: 8 years ago

For me the interesting part today was the Golu-Suhana scene where they were playing role play of a husband-wife and then it hit me that how easily the makers have stereotyped the roles of a husband and wife, in today's world where the husband and wife are playing equal responsibilities be it taking care of the home or the kids yet the makers here stereotyped it which for me was very disappointing. I have so many friends and relatives where the husband & wife take up equal responsibilities yet the makers seem to be in their own bubble that if it's a man then all he does is pass orders and earn money, if it's a woman then all she does is take orders, do make up and take care of the kids. But today not only in urban but also in rural areas this is changing. So for me it was really disappointing

Again not many might agree but it's just my POV, no offence.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Good to see all of you being so active...

The scene which saddened me the most was the one where Soha and Golu were acting like the stereotypical adults... I don't care whether this experiment of Dev and Sona can change the mindsets of people who are already adults and set in their ways...

(Already I am seeing that most of you have the same mindset and attitude that you had while watching the previous season... So, I will be really surprised if I see a change in your perspectives...)

But, if it could show and inspire the children (or other young adults) and teach them to choose a road that is often less travelled by and if it could make them realise the meaning of equality better... Then, I will consider this decision taken by the two of them as a successful one...

And, it is obvious that this decision, even if it's successful will not go forever... It is only until Sona's project is going on... And, I am actually surprised by how hyper every member's reaction is...

It is just the beginning... And, like every other task, both Dev and Sona will not be successful the first time around... Each day, they will have to come back to the drawing board and see where they are going wrong and then plan accordingly... It will be a more of a test of Devakshi and how far they have come than anything else...

We have only watched 4 episodes... And, this season is 30 episodes long.. We have a long journey in front of us... So, let us wait for a few more days and weeks until we get a more clear picture before we begin jumping into conclusions...
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Posted: 8 years ago
Suyash,

The scene enacted by Soha and Golu was true around 20 - 30 years ago. Things have changed. What Golu was shown doing is done by both husband and wife at one point of time or the other. Same with what Soha is doing. Now in most of the families that I have seen, both husband and wife share the chores as needed. There is role reversal upto certain extent at times and there is "compromise. A relationship is a 2 way street. When you are in a relationship, the "adjustments shouldn't always be from one side. Both the people involved in that relationship should be accommodating the other person and their views. Being in relationship is being in a team. It cannot always be as one person wants.

But right now the imbalance is from Sonakshi's side. She is unwilling to compromise anything. I remember this dialogue from Dil Chahtha hai that Amir Khan says towards the end of the movie perfection ko improve nahin karsakte. No human is perfect. Everyone will learn something or the other their whole life long. Just because I am a mom doesn't mean that there is nothing to learn from my kids. Just because I have become an adult doesn't mean that there is nothing left that my mom, my brothers cannot teach. Every day you learn something new, something that you didn't know before. That is where Dev is. He is very much self aware that he is human. Ishwari has also to a large extent realized that there are things that she doesn't know. That she can learn new things too. But she also has experience. She is trying to explain her experience. For her she had to go to work leaving a child behind because she had to and didn't have a choice. That her leaving her child was necessary for their survival. She doesn't want what she was forced to do be repeated again when there is no need for such drive. And I am sure she will come around and support Dev and Sonakshi.

Here is where Sonakshi and Bijoy have stuck themselves. They both are still living in the bubble that they are perfect, that they don't need to learn anything. And making adjustments in life that too where they compromise on their thought process is a big no no for them. In the post I made, I mentioned that there were n number of ways that Dev and Sonakshi could have solved her dilemma of whether she should stay at home or go to work. Bijoy who today said he is proud of Dev for deciding to stay back was extremely unhappy when his daughter tried to change. His belief that there is no need for Sonakshi to change has created such a block for Sonakshi that she is not able to see that she is wrong. Her whole "I don't have a choice, "what can I do, woe is me attitude is what we are discussing. She constantly continues to paint herself as a victim and not the author, thereby refusing to take responsibility for any consequence that she feels are less than ideal. When a consequence has the ability to show her in poor light, she just runs away from that situation rather than owning that decision and saying it is ok. I made a mistake and will learn from it.

Even with everything that has happened, she and Bijoy have learnt nothing. Sonakshi who is aware that Dev's guilt of not being in Soha's life is not his mistake still continues to let him bear the brunt but doesn't think of absolving him or sharing the blame. When she talks of equality, she expects him to do his part and share half of her everything. But she doesn't do the same. She doesn't share anything of what Dev goes through. Her love is so conditional that she just expects him to be the one to change all the time so that she doesn't have to. She wants to keep both her dreams and Bijoy's dreams intact and fulfill them without them affecting the other. But that is not possible. Both of them are kind of opposite to the other. To fulfill both of them, she needs to compromise and that is unpalatable to her. It once again goes back to her assumption that she and her baba are perfect. And perfect people don't compromise.

The question that comes to me is will Sonakshi be happy if the experiment succeeds. Will she be happy with being the second best in her children's lives. Will Bijoy be understanding if society labels his daughter as not a good mom, wife and DIL. Dev will come out unfazed as he doesn't really give too much thought to society labels but cares for what his family thinks. He wouldn't be the one affected the most. But can the same be said for Bose family including Sonakshi. Will she really be happy with the results.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi, the reason why I said that the scene enacted by Soha and Golu saddened me immensely was because I know that these thoughts are no longer true but unfortunately, there are still a lot of people in our society who cling on to these traditional beliefs...

You are right that there are n number of ways to solve this dilemma but at this moment, Sona (and especially, Dev) thinks that this solution might work for them... They have just thought about it and not even implemented it... They will need to put a lot of energy and time into this decision, if they wants it to be successful...

Not every couple have the understanding or the resources to make such kinds of decisions successful... The reason why most of us are banging our heads is because, this solution, while admirable is not exactly 100% practical... This is what Asha said it in the previous episode...

Chances are by the time, this season comes to an end, the final product of this decision could be similar to the ones that you and everybody else is discussing about... But, for that, we have to wait and see...

Sonakshi is sensitive to what others say about her... This was why she was so irritated in the very first episodes of the show when Dev called her a 'psycho' and 'an irritating wife'... This was when Dev was just another stranger...

And, considering how due to this decision, she is the one who will meet and deal with the society, a lot more often than Dev, she will also deal with how society perceives her... And, I am sure that it will not be all welcoming... But, this is where Dev becomes such an indispensible part of her life...

Last season, we were all on her throat because she tends to hide everything from her husband...
Now, when she has finally become more open and expressive and till now, I feel that she has been completely honest with Dev... I am amazed that we are still accusing her of the same things...

In my opinion, Sona does exhibit certain tendencies of a perfectionist but she is not one... She does possess certain traits of being a woman whose only focus is her career but again, this is not the case...

And, if she goes through with her decision, she is "compromising" on her time that she could had with her children and her family...

And, you are right that in a relationship, it cannot always be as one person wants... But, in this case, this was not her idea... It is Dev's idea since he feels this will give him an opportunity to relive his childhood as well as support Sona which he failed to do, the first time around...

The guilt that he is facing is only in his head... And, if anyone who could remove that guilt from him is him only and not Sona... And, what I feel, we are overlooking in this situation, is the fact that Sona will run her business but doesn't end her responsibilities as a mother to her children.. She still has to come home and do her part...

The only part of her role that she is not going to do is staying with her son during the day hours, while she is at her office... And, both of them actually work from the same office, so, I do feel a more practical solution would have been to create a separate nursery in their office...

This way, both of them could take care of the baby without letting go of their professional responsibilities...

But, I know that this show, though close to reality, is not bound by the constraints of reality... This show is different because the team working on it has the courage to tackle different subjects which are more relatable to us... They are not trying to preach us or tell us the 'perfect' way but are just trying to make us aware... This is what I love about this show...

Again, it is too early for us to jump into conclusions... As far as I am concerned, I am enjoying both of them taking on this phase and how they are going to face the upcoming challenges...

-Suyash.

Edited by Harryfan011 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
How overwhelmed I get with episodes is insane

No words to express how I feel and enjoy and smile get happy <3

The subtlety and softness of this show is everything..They dont force you to accept anything but they give you reason to think understand and feel

They are not giving any social message but they are raising some amusing questions..Generations and generations have followed this "so called" rule..because we are made to believe this is right and sadly still in this era we dont want to even see other perspective..accepting is toh out of question

I am a proud and happy viewer who can confidently flaunt of what I watch

I am more thankful to makers to creatives for coming up with something like this..Shaheer for being so convincing as Dev..Erica so wonderful as Sonakshi <3

Every episode is memorable and I can atleast watch it in loop
A proud Dev lover <3 I am

No offense My POV


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