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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#271

Originally posted by: Shaavi
I have a doubt. why did Dev say "tumhe aise mere saath hairaan, pareshaan, worried about your aan baan shaan, ab tumhara kya hoga Ms. Bose".
Thanks for your help in advance. 😊

Wasn't that comment about Bijoy and the guests questioning what these two were doing in the room. Especially with Dev not fully clothed? After all how can two adults be left alone by nose parker relatives

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thedramaqueen

@thedramaqueen

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Posted: 8 years ago

#272

Originally posted by: Shaavi

Me too and Mishti's. 😃

Yeah and mishti too

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#273

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Wasn't that comment about Bijoy and the guests questioning what these two were doing in the room. Especially with Dev not fully clothed? After all how can two adults be left alone by nose parker relatives

Thanks DQ. But even before that didn't Sonakshi say in front of a relative that they are together for Soha. Also didn't Bijoy not correct the relative(Asha stopped him, but Bijoy did not pursue and accepted Asha's suggestion) when he said it is nice to see Sonakshi with her family in an implied way stating that she wan now settled. Dev might not have heard anything that Bijoy said, but he did hear what Sonakshi said. Also Bijoy kept saying "jamaai". 😉

It will definitely be odd if it was just two adults. But when everyone there saw them as husband -- wife and unless Sonakshi screamed or created a scene, would people really view it as something unthinkable. Still wondering...

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BeOptimistic

@allizzwell

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Posted: 8 years ago

#274

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen
Hello Cumberben2
Hope it's pleasant in Switzerland. Not seen you on our thread before.

What is manhandling? I am no expert on the language. However, I would say it's "unauthorised" use of force on another human/animal/thing

It doesn't matter what we as viewers think. Sona the character in the story didn't think it was manhandling. I tell you why. Sona had no business going into a house-guest's room to help them wear a piece of clothing. If she was so worried about the drama that might ensue, she could have let her father and the said house-guest handle it. Or, she could have sent jatin to help. Or taken Gunni or soha or Dadi or jatin with her if she was concerned about the man-in-need's intention. She walked into that room making an informed choice. She knows how this person behaves around her. She didn't have to go. If she thought he was manhandling her she should have walked out. If he chooses to create a scene, let her father deal with it because it's her father who started it in the first place. If she was worried her brother's special day will be spoilt, she could have taken her brother with her in that room for 5 minutes. It only takes 5 minutes to tie a Dhoti

But... Sona did none of that. Why? Because the heart wants what the heart wants. Anyone who has had some sexual flings will tell you this kind of act can and will sometimes happen. Dev and Sonakshi are bottling up all that and it's coming out in this manner. It's called seduction. Why was Dev seducing sona and why was she letting him seduce her? Do I need to answer that?

Like saumie said in her post... it's the right they are giving each other

Totally agree👍🏼...

In marraige physical assaults do happen in fights due to bitterness...disagreement and differences...which IS termed manhandling..i agree...!

But the relation between Dev and Sona is they r not letting any one else to come in between their marital bond...but their own ego...differences and misunderstandings. ( i dont want to get into what was Dev doing in many flings for 7 years...i am purely addressing Devakshi bond here)

When in a marraige...an argument happens

and there is immense ...intense love between the couple...the acceptance of the mistakes takes some time...leading to rootna-manana...in dq's terms...physical proximity too happens leading to seduction...attraction and the willingness of faults of each other...its all in the mind...the bitterness as it looks on the face of it is just for the 3rd party...the couple concerned know each other so well and the bond they share that they allow their partner to b played upon...now is this manhandling??😲😲

These r different ways of expressing their longingness for each other in Devakshi's case...as they dont want to admit or open up their feelings for one another..it does show up in the form of passionate tashans like these...

If this was truly manhandling...y was Sona succumbing to all those...? She could have yelled and called for help. She could have slapped him hard for the so called man handling...but she did not even scold him a fraction of what she did later while tying the dothi for him...infact she acted as if she was a teacher and Dev was a student who did enough rubbish and needed a good mouthful to stop his kiddish acts . He too stood numb like an obedient student...and v call Dev...the ruthless manhandler😆

Edited by -allizwell- - 8 years ago

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Deepa

@deepsel

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Posted: 8 years ago

#275

Vote of Thanks😆

@FLW70 : That was special because getting appreciation through a separate post from a silent member who just likes is always special😳

@Meher : Thats very sweet of you dear but I will say if everyone who makes post here make it in the main forum as separate posts, I bet the forum atmosphere will look different😉. Due to time constraints and inhibitions members feel more free here and I won't blame them either😊. Inspite of lovely episodes I can't make separate posts merely due to the fact that I can't respond to all individually now.

@Payal : Please feel free to address by my name😊 (my UN name includes my hubby's too😆) Btw thats exactly what my mom used to say to my dad about having a girl child and it changed him drastically the way he saw my mother..obviously when it comes to their own blood sufferings it hurts more to men😳. I used to tease my husband too during my first pregnancy that how he is going to suffer seeing his girl go to another family leaving him and he will realize all the torture he did to me, for which he will confidently say God won't punish for sins done unintentionally so he will get only boys. To my horror and surprise I got boys both times and finally made peace may be my husband was indeed naive those days😆.

@Sam: I don't know about others, but meri saas tho hatak gai watching those pantless thighs even if its for micro seconds 🤣 (people please don't judge me as some hormonal fangirl deprived of everything but a smart woman who knows to take harmless pleasure free of cost in reel scenarios😉😆)

@DQ and @Shaavi : That was very very sweet of you both to acknowledge , am humbled😃

@Geena : 🤗

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Wonderful discussions people. If we all can still relate realism in this series even with so many inconsistencies we have to accept makers are doing something correct for sure😳

@Siddhi.d123: I will tell you one thing, you can never ever judge a person accurately until you start living with them 24/7. People always like to show their best behaviors before committing be it love or arranged marriage. So it doesn't matter whether he is momma's boy or not, every man needs time to adjust just like every girl . Also never enter a marriage with prenotioned expectations from a guy because it will always fall short😳. Not to scare you but marriage is definitely not a piece of cake but a growth of a boy and girl into a man and woman and that can't be achieved by "my way or highway attitudes"😊 So all the best for whatever future awaits you👍🏼.

@ Cumberben2 : Welcome to the thread dear 😃

@ Saumiee : Lovely post to read, thanks for adding the link here. Felt little miffed to see certain insensitive comments there but I would kindly request you to not stop making posts because of these🤗.

@Shaavi : Dev is gone case😆 After entering Bose house this fellow doesn't have an ounce of shame that he is an Ex infact I feel he is more relaxed and enjoying his non-existing rights in the name of Suhana😉 He just loves to irritate Sona trying to bring out her inner feelings. The moment she confessed she won't marry again , he knew she is not over him but intact she is very angry that she is not leaving a chance to dig him that he is unimportant in her life. This "ghar jamai" scenario gave him perfect chance to test her. If she sneers at him and walks out even after "aan baan shaan" talk he can conclude he has 0 chance with Ex Mrs but she remembering Gajra moment instead have made ladoo pooting in his vibrations instantly.😆

My thoughts about episode coming up in next post ☺️

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Shaavi

@Shaavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#276

KRPKAB never ceases to amaze me. The way CVs are doing the story telling is unique and one of a kind.
Hats off the all the cast and crew 👏 👏

I read a spoiler that Ishwari's realization or redemption will not be sudden or dramatic. It also said there won't be too many emotional dialogues to point out these realizations. I think this has already started for Ishwari. If in season 1, she was shown to be heavily influenced by maami and Vickky, this season she is being shown to be more disposed to listen to maamaji and Golu. I strongly feel that it will not be Suhana who will be the reason for Ishwari's change but will be Golu. And Suhana is the one who is going to help Bijoy understand Dev.

First time Ishwari sees Asha in the temple, she reveals that to both maamaji and maami. At that time she decides to follow maami's advice. Then came the time when maami tells Ishwari that Sonakshi is planning to come home because Suhana will pull her. But later during that summer camp last day when she is waiting, mama tells her that she shouldn't try to change destiny as she is not Ishwar. Ishwari is shown to accept it reluctantly. The first time maami suggests putting a case on the Boses for Suhana, Ishwari tells no, saying she doesn't want it to affect "Suhaana".

On Monday's episode Ishwari is shown to be packing lunch for Dev and maamaji stops her saying Dev has gone there just today so Ishwari should not visit abruptly as he is now a father and can very well take care of his daughter. Ishwari says what trouble would anyone have with her going there. She would just give the food and come back. Mama asks her to have patience and support Dev. The very next day Ishwari does take lunch to Bose house. But the result is as maama said. Hence when she comes back even though maami and Vickky try to instigate her and suggest legal recourse again, she doesn't really blame the Boses, but says no again, but gives the reason as "not wanting to cause any more issues to Dev".

Ishwari says she hasn't spoken to Dev and Golu tells her not to disturb him as it was his first day with his daughter and they need to give space. In that dining table scene, Ishwari is shown as sitting at the head of the table, while maami and maama are shown to sit on either side of her. Just like how they show ones conscience, the devil and angel sitting on the shoulder. While maami continues with her provocations to make Ishwari call Dev, maama stops her. This time it was shown that Ishwari listened to maama and today even agreed to go to Vaishno Devi without much opposition. She has started to pay heed to maamaji's words more than maami.

Conversely Bijoy yesterday remarked that what can Dev teach about parenting and that too to Sonakshi. From what is shown it seems Sonakshi's parenting style is heavily influenced by Bijoy and not much by Asha. Sonakshi liked fairy tales where prince would marry the princess and live happily ever after. Here Sonakshi looked for validation from the prince regarding herself, may not be consciously, but sub consciously. Also she went with the kind of parenting style where she wanted Soha to follow what she said because it was the solution in a principled way. Kind of like bookish way where it tells kids fall sick, do what doctors say, a child should have schedule and each activity begins and ends at specified times.

I am not saying this is an incorrect method of parenting, but here I feel that childishness is lost quickly. The life becomes monotonous and there is very little excitement as your time is kind of laid out. If someone asks what you are doing at 2 pm from a week from now, in a couple of minutes the answer is available that "I will be attending so and so class at that time". There is no element of surprise. I feel this is what Dev is bringing to Soha's life, that she was missing but is not understood by Sonakshi or Bijoy. From their perspective it is better to have schedules and stick to them like clockwork. They don't see that there is anything lacking in that. In fact they consider it "perfect". What Dev is doing is bringing that element of unknown, an adventure, taking risks to live and pursue happiness.

When Soha was sick Sonakshi preferred injection which is painful, but is something that would have definitely helped Soha get better. Dev also choose a medicine which was equally painful(bitter to taste, hence painful for throat 😊 ), to help her for the same issue. While Sonakshi told Soha that she needs to take that injection because it was necessary, Dev did the same in a way where he did not have to force Soha to take it. Infact it was Soha who eagerly asked for it. 😆 .

Similarly when Sonakshi told her it was time to sleep Soha showed reluctance, but Dev got her to do just that by making it exciting. Even the story he picked did not talk about a prince. It just talked about the princess who fought the dragon by herself. Sonakshi had once told Dev, you just feed me, I will fight the dragon myself, in reality she expected Dev to slay the dragon. But with the story Dev told Soha, he is empowering her to actually be confident about herself and not look to someone else for positive validation.

Through Suhana, Bijoy will realize the lacking in his parenting skills, while It will give the much needed dose of reality to Sonakshi from her "perfect" world.

I am really glad to be part of this journey. 😃

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MrsBenedict

@MrsBenedict

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Posted: 8 years ago

#277

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen
Hello Cumberben2
Hope it's pleasant in Switzerland. Not seen you on our thread before.

What is manhandling? I am no expert on the language. However, I would say it's "unauthorised" use of force on another human/animal/thing

It doesn't matter what we as viewers think. Sona the character in the story didn't think it was manhandling. I tell you why. Sona had no business going into a house-guest's room to help them wear a piece of clothing. If she was so worried about the drama that might ensue, she could have let her father and the said house-guest handle it. Or, she could have sent jatin to help. Or taken Gunni or soha or Dadi or jatin with her if she was concerned about the man-in-need's intention. She walked into that room making an informed choice. She knows how this person behaves around her. She didn't have to go. If she thought he was manhandling her she should have walked out. If he chooses to create a scene, let her father deal with it because it's her father who started it in the first place. If she was worried her brother's special day will be spoilt, she could have taken her brother with her in that room for 5 minutes. It only takes 5 minutes to tie a Dhoti

But... Sona did none of that. Why? Because the heart wants what the heart wants. Anyone who has had some sexual flings will tell you this kind of act can and will sometimes happen. Dev and Sonakshi are bottling up all that and it's coming out in this manner. It's called seduction. Why was Dev seducing sona and why was she letting him seduce her? Do I need to answer that?

Like saumie said in her post... it's the right they are giving each other

Hey,

Thank you for explaining your point of view .

Yesterday was the first time me jumping in between the discussions, which was truthfully kind of disastrous 😆.

PS - I totally agree with you on Sona could have sent anyone but she chose to go over to help Dev personally.

Hope you didn't mind my sudden intrusion in the thread :p

Cheers,

Cumber

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MrsBenedict

@MrsBenedict

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Posted: 8 years ago

#278

@deepsel

Thank you!

For the warm welcome :)

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Deepa

@deepsel

Rocker

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Posted: 8 years ago

#279

The whole bashing of Sona , Asha, Bijoy and Dev yesterday made me wonder how valid are our POVs where we are not ready to forget and forgive each one's faults done in emotions inspite of so many good deeds they have done in this whole journey of KRPKAB but instead expect Dev to forget his past including his mother else stay away from Boses! Just like we can't forget that accidental slap and yesterday's action of Dev whenever Dev smiles at Bijoy and tries to be cordial, maybe Dev too have reasons to be loyal to his mother inspite of knowing her backstabs. Like DQ stated , we should watch this serial from every character's POV instead of expecting our POVs to be shown😳

I loved todays episode , infact liked this whole week so far leaving some forcefully inserted moments!

Dev is definitely very relaxed and free inside Bose house and looks like he is on a mission to impress not just Suhana😉 Thanks to Mamaji and Vaishnavi Devi who will save Ishwari from visiting to spoil this atmosphere😆. Dev buying saree for Suhana ( btw Soha looked super gorgeous) , charming Ghosh ji, giving his Ex wife the credit for Suhana's individuality, presenting such a thoughtful gift to Saunita, heeding to Bijoy's demand and finally standing like a school boy dumbstruck with "Just perfect" made me . This man is finally living his life without suffocation. (Cvs can we please have Golu somehow in this mix and rest all can go and stuck in Vaishanavi Devi temple for some years please😆)

Also loved Bijoy and his antics today. It didn't look like hatred at all, but looked like more of a friendly ragging trying to tease the juniors😆 Ex-Sasur is definitely melting and I would cntrl+alt+delete all insults to see some "masoori ki kasam" anyday😳. I could see genuine approval with Suhana's dress from Dev and his kiddish wicked smile outside Dev's room imagining his plight with Dhoti😆. Baaba is having some fun for sure😉

Loving Saurabh and Ronita more and more as each day passes. They are setting some serious relationship goals for sure !

Now who is this Payal introduced by Jatin to Sona? Is he still trying his chances after seeing an outsider steering his way inside?!😛

Now to the much debated "manhandling"😲 I respect other's views but no I didn't think it was anything of that sort. First of all if I am really cautious about a person, I would have cared a damn even if he walks in his undies or none to make himself a laughing stock in front of his daughter. I need not go to the room to say NO😆. Even if I went I would have kicked his balls if he tries to touch me without my permission. And am pretty sure Sona was capable for more than that😉. So where is this manhandling topic popped?! Very frankly Sona is not viewing Dev as we audience see, for her he is still her first fairy tale prince who is still confusing each day with his hot and cold behavior. Those feelings of first love is not a joke to be erased by some stupid fights and separations and deep down they rule our hearts how much ever we deny. All I saw in that scene was each exerting their rights on other by Dev arm twisting Sona to make his work done and Sona mind twisting Dev to listen to her chup chap 😆. Husband /wife is the only relation we are bound by fate but whole heartedly give our body and soul to unlike to any blood relations we have by birth or giving birth. And Sona here has given her wifey rights to Dev still deep hearty and Dev knows it too. I could see only a bickering hubby-wifey scene there and nothing of forced manhandling of any abla naari.

If there is one thing I absolutely hated, thats Sona's hairdo and costume style. Whats wrong wth the costumes designers and hairstylists with Erica here? Every single woman from Dida to Asha to so called Payal to nameless guest aunty gets bindass costumes from classy to sleeveless choli but Sona is stuffed and unkempt😡. Cvs she is the FL for christ sake...Grrr No wonder Erica was pissed!

Now to my gutter partner DQ, what would have happened if Sona's push was loose and Dhoti slipped with Dev still in "gajra land" with his hands on sides?! ☺️ Would we have witnessed woman handling?😆

Have fun buddies, the mere fact that so much bashing is happening proves KRPKAB is still milking viewers feelings with the expectations that good days are definite to come😳

Ciao🤗

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siddhi.d123

@siddhi.d123

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Posted: 8 years ago

#280

A lot has been spoken regarding manhandling though as a viewer we may perceive it but for Sona it was not.The dialogues given to Dev were a little cheap I think with its log kya kahenge and all. Whether divorced or separated , Sona is his daughter's mother so atleast he should respect her for that.The dialogues could be more civilized 😊

@deepsel - Thank you for your advice 😊 A daily soap can wreck your mind in many ways 😆 But more than the show, I really love reading the experiences of the some of the amazing writers over here and you are on of it 😊