*Season 2, Week 9* Analysis Thread - Page 2

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Posted: 8 years ago
#11
Shaavi
So you think just when she disagrees with Dev, when she feels he is being mean, or silly or when she is angry or bitter or indifferent she is being Bijoys daughter.

I am sorry but yu are discrediting her thought processes and putting too much influence on her relationship. Sona for one is extremely her own person. she is almost always voicing her own thoughts.

Even as Sonakshi herself she can have anger/disagreement/bitterness/indifference/disgust/attraction/love for Dev. Doesn't need an addition of relationship there.

I for one would like to credit her with what she is. You have taken away all her credit from her (quite cruelly f may say so)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Congrats to All of u guys for the new thread n for the sucess of the last one too...Its been a wonderful n enriching experience to be a part of this wonderful talented group...!
Shaavi ..As usual loved it !
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wonderful analysis Shaavi. How nicely you explained Sonakshi's different roles! Exactly she is behaving like three in one. You are right. Dev understood her role changing and is behaving accordingly. A truce can be possible between the two only if BD gets dominated by SM and Sonakshi herself. Great understanding and greater presentation. As usual you excel yourself .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi

A very special thanks to Geena and DQ for their analysis of Friday's episode. When I watched the Thursday and Friday's episodes again after reading you analysis the scenes made a lot of sense.

Geena, there is only one thing I would like to add to your analysis. Sonakshi right now is playing 3 roles simultaneously--
1) Sonakshi herself
2) Bijoy's daughter-- BD
3) Soha's mother-- SM

Similar to how DQ mentioned. But Dev is playing only 2 roles -- Dev himself and Soha's dad. There is no separate Ishwari's son anymore. There is only Dev who will respect his mother, take care of his responsibilities, but will not play by her rules anymore. He is asking Ishwari to accept it while she is rejecting it.

Coming to Sonakshi, she plays the 3 roles simultaneously switching from one to the other frequently. She is trying very hard to maintain the 3 roles and be the best at each one concurrently.

When Sonakshi came to the balcony, she was herself. The moment she saw Dev in the next balcony and questioned him, she was SM. When she saw Preethi and realized that Dev had charmed the teacher in giving him that room, she was BD. When Dev was praising Preethi, she was still BD with a little bit of herself in there. When he talked about his love, it was she herself and wanted to her him say her name. When he said It is Soha, she was disappointed and became BD. It was BD who listened to the rest of their conversation. When Dev asked her if she heard their conversation, it was a combination of BD and Sonakshi to begin with, but became Sonakshi when he asked 'farq nahi padtha'. When Dev asked if she needed help with the door, it was once again BD who answered him. When Dev forcefully came to her and she said ky karr rahe ho, it was she herself.

The person Dev tied to the door was BD. It is true that Sonakshi and SM will not stop him from meeting Soha and will actually like it if Soha calls him papa. They will even cheer for him. But BD is not happy with that as of now. She will not want Soha to accept Dev so easily. She thinks Dev is cheating, will even try to slow him down. Dev has understood this of Sonakshi. He wanted time with Soha to impress her without BD. Hence he tied her. But also made sure that she was not completely indisposed. He left a way out, through his room. It is symbolic that as he needs to go through her to reach Soha, Sonakshi needs to do the same. To reach some aspects of Soha, Sonakshi needs to go through Dev.

The conversation between them when Golu is adamant in calling Sonakshi bigchi is also very important. In that he first says names are important to Sonakshi and not relationships. Then he says it doesn't matter what Soha calls him, their relationship doesn't change. Here he was referring to the incident where he had called Asha Aunty. I am not saying it was right of him to call her that, but from his perspective it also should not have been that big a deal. Just because he called Asha aunty, his relationship with her did not change nor his respect for her decreased in any way. Conversely even though Bijoy called him "beta", he didn't really treat him as one. This is what he was trying to tell Sonakshi. That naming a relationship is just a way of recognizing it, but just name itself does not describe the entire relationship.

If Soha had called him papa, but didn't really mean it, there is not much meaning to the name. Best example is Golu and Vickky. It is true that Golu calls Vickky as Papa, but for him the real parent and father figure is Dev. The name papa to Vickky doesn't mean much to Golu.

He also wanted to ask Sonakshi the question. When she was married to Dev, she called Ishwari as "maa". His question to her is did you really mean her to be your mother. I am not saying anything excuses what Ishwari did or Dev's flaws and faults. But trying to understand what he meant and what he is trying to do.
From his perspective if Sonakshi had accepted Ishwari as her mother, she wouldn't have tried to prove her wrong. In other words he is saying will you try to prove Bijoy or Asha wrong if they say your decision is wrong or you are not the best at it. Ex -- cooking. Asha had many times in S1 even before her falling in love asks Sonakshi to learn cooking, but she at that time just laughs it off or says she is not interested. She doesn't try to prove her wrong and this is what Dev is telling her -- was it so important to you to prove "maa" wrong. Even more important than our relationship.

After the basketball match he said that he has won, but Sonakshi said he hadn't. I think at that time it was again BD who said that. Dev on the other hand is able to recognize her changing roles and is modifying his tactics accordingly.

The story is becoming really interesting to watch. A big thank you to Sam and DQ for creating this thread.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Happy Holi folks!! 🤗

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Has anyone seen the banana peel lying there on the basketball ground..😆The ball was dripped close to it...n Devakshi was running around it...🤣 No wonder she slipped n fell in his arms...
Then the rain, 2 ladies bumped n dashed their heads to each other.. Boom!!!🤣.They ran as if tsunami had hit them...😆..

These are my lazy observations for todays timepass till the clock hits 8😎
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey all! Just finished watching Tuesday and Wednesday's episodes and I couldn't wait to put a few thoughts down before I resumed my catch-up session.

I see where Ishwari is coming from. It doesn't make it any less infuriating that she is constantly throwing cold water on Dev's happiness, but having a grandchild meant a lot of things to her, and in Tuesday's episode, she confirmed this analysis from the fake pregnancy track. To her, having a grandchild was the sign that her struggle was over, and that she could watch a child grow the way it was supposed to, without any burdens or cares. Soha is therefore her worst nightmare; her problem is not that Soha is not enough like Dev, but that she is too much like Dev was at that age.

Of course, it is very hard to sustain sympathy for her because her pain is self-inflicted. How could she think that she would spoil Dev's child when she refused to free Dev himself from the shackles of their past? With the entry of Sona into his life, she had the perfect opportunity to let him experience the happiness he never had, but she chose to be selfish and cut him off from his ticket to freedom. The story has been woven in such a way that the pain Ishwari inflicted on Dev has passed on to Soha. As long as she continues to dampen Dev's joy, she will never see the Suhana "Dixit" she wants to see. It's beautiful how all the relationships are now woven together so inextricably through Soha.

Second observation is about Mrs. Mandal, who I think is a very smart lady. When she came to talk to the Boses, I think what she wanted was an honest appraisal of the situation between Sona and her husband. How bitter was it? How much did this issue take up the day to day energy of the family her daughter would be joining? But when she asked honestly, Sona was ready with her stock answer that her issues would not have any effect on Dada and Ronita's relationship. Mrs. M was not happy with this response, and so she chose a different tactic.

She spoke Bose. Instead of focusing on her specific concern for her daughter, she began speaking in abstract principles, the first of which was, "we are all family now." This got an immediate positive reaction out of Bijoy. She then went on to say "a child needs both mother and father." This got a rise out of Sona and her reaction gave her all the information she had been searching for; the exact status of Sona's relationship with her husband, and a partial picture of the custody situation -- Soha lives with Sona, predominantly. It was not ideal that she had to manipulate this information out of Sona, but I also don't hold it against her. The Boses are holding their cards close to their chest in the hope that this ristha will work out, and Ronita is already smitten. Mrs. M is putting her practical foot forward first.

Some more information that she may or may not have noticed: the entire time she was there, Saurabh didn't speak a word. When you look at the situation through an objective lens, all of these red flags make a huge difference, especially in an arranged marriage set-up. This whole interaction reminded me a lot of when the Boses showed up at IN, and that conversation between Bijoy and Ishwari after which Bijoy told Sona to reconsider forming a relationship with Dev. I am curious to see whether Mrs. M shares her observations with Ronita, and if yes, how she does so.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@shaavi and @sam you girls are awesome. Sam missed you so much the whole of last week. Please be more hands on this week to bring in you soothing perspectives , it's so nerve wracking you know coming to this forum, you don't know when a land mine will blast 😕 . The only place I feel safe is this thread. Waiting for your analysis on Thursday's and Friday's episodes - esp the hand tying part 😆 which made most people go bonkers (but not me 😆 ) . I've a one track mind these days you see, can't see beyond Dev's hunkalicious form and flying zulfein(DQ and Deepa 😆 ). Waiting Sam ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wishing every one a very Happy and colorful Holi :)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shaavi & Sam...it's really mind blowing to see how you people scrutinize each character to the core and that too in a very matured way... Moreover, everytime you do it, you add a new perspective into the character/scene...i am without words...
Not only to them, but to all those who contribute to this thread, sharing their own views and analysis on each character & scene, a wholehearted 👏👏👏.

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