The reason behind Heer hiding Chahat... - Page 6

Originally posted by: -athena-

Ephteee hold on right there*holding Ephtee's hands and stopping before she signs off*😆...I didn't get this point of yours and also about how Heer was the one who made Prem accept and do things about Prem-Heer are one...

'm here... 😆

when she ''forced'' him to come out of hiding and come rescue her from ratpal. when was running off away from her saying that he preferred to spend the rest of his days with some two-two other ladies in delhi. that it was important to build a few moments of love to live life in, rather than spend an entire life without love. these were important parts in my head of prem-heer-are-one remaining through everything, including death.

😲...do you mean to say Prem didn't believe in it???
nope. but with prem, it always looked/looks like he says things more than he actually does things.

ermm...isn't he the one who kept saying physical togetherness is not what matters but what matters is that he and Heer are always together wherever they are...no??

er... don't remember this. but if he did say that physical togetherness is not what matters -- i will bop him on the upside of his head! duffer! of course, it matters! it matters... to me!

a kiphph, darnit! i demand a kiphph! and a real physical plip-to-hlip one -- that i can see. not one of those darned metaphysical ones that prem and heer are constantly indulging in! they may be getting their jollies out of those -- but they are driving me crazy!!! 🤣

And about the above points....Heer has hidden stuff from Prem time and again....She did not reveal about her real identity even after what all Prem went through to save her....

'cause till the end, she believed that prem beloved father -- for whom prem kept weeping day and night, night and day -- hated her father and therefore her.

She told Prem half truth about Veera-RR....

half-truth?

And the infamous Sameer fiasco is still fresh right there which is the reason for their downfall and which she conviniently forgot all about....

'cause prem's beloved mother begged her not to. heer, in her love of prem, has always taken on everything that prem holds more dear. if prem listened to gaali-maa when she told him not to tell heer about sanjana, of course, heer wouldn't tell prem about samir-in-leather when gaali-maa begged her not to tell prem about him.

Did you mean to say Prem has hidden stuff about Sanjana because he doubted Heer???😲
*sigh* i must learn how to write my posts a lot more clearly.

i have written out two sections: one stuff where prem kept things from heer. the other stuff where prem doubted heer. the sanjana thing falls in the first part.

sorry it was not more clear. there was no doubting heer in that one -- except that gaali-maa told him that heer may not understand it.

And I am yet to see you saying anything against Heer hiding stuff from Prem FOREVER and doing ridiculous things to hide them from him....Do you support the wives who hide things like this and at the end NOT even bother revealing them to their husbands???
rakphoooh. sorry you are getting so troubled. but obviously i don't support wives doing what you said. nothing that heer or prem do are things i'd support for anyone on earth, mars, venus or saturn. these two are not real! they were created together in the stars and what-not. i think they are an ideal -- and i don't think the world is ideal. the world is actually more preet-meher-like -- filled with workable compromises. and i think what we see in this show is that both can be beautiful -- in their own ways.

and btw, actually, i don't support the whole wife-dom principle in general! i happen to think men and women are better off living their own independant lives. but that's something that is a totally off-topic. 🤣

and about Nihaal...did you say he asked her to go out of the house because he doubted Heer about siding Nihaal???😲...DID YOU JUST SAY THAT???😲
*sighing at how much my post is making rakphooh's eyebrows shoot into her hairline.*
nope. didn't say that. those were two different lines. not to be mixed up together.

You lost me there
😆 sorry, rakph. read it differently -- keeping all the lines and paragraphs from mixing up -- and maybe it will help you get back to the post.

*i really should find out how to write better... will keep trying, rakpha-dearest. and btw, it's sooooo great to see you again! 🤗*

Urgh. It's confusing. I mean, Heer should forgive Prem that he has realized his mistake and Heer shall ask for forgiveness for keeping Chahat away from Prem and Prem shall forgive her (and he already did seeing he knows how why Heer kept Chahat away from him), fair?

Originally posted by: estee

Shifu dear 🤗🤗🤗

While I agree and respect why Heer wants to stay away from Prem that she can't forget Ash being with Prem, I disagree about Heer being right always. I also respectfully disagree with the POV about Prem.😕

Sorry to iterate what nadia, aditi, cess, Rakhau, Bee were saying.

Some of these posts/replies are biased towards Heer (at least they appear that way to me), I don't know why Prem is so easily misunderstood while we all have such a big heart to let go of every single thing Heer does. Both are obsessed about each other, both love each other like crazy, both worshiped each other but

1. Prem always respected Heer's verdicts and never hides anything from her. Especially when it comes to Chahat. Irrespective of his craving for his blood line he never violated Heer. Please don't say that he shouldn't even try to see her then we would be asking for impossible from a father. Men's heart is not built any differently than women's. So while many thinks Heer is justifies/scared of sharing Chahat, we also need to understand it is an acute pain for Prem to stay away form Chahat, but he is doing it anyway since he doesn't want to hurt Heer in any case. No matter what, Heer is not right about not letting Prem meet Chahat. One more thing.. I don't think Heer knows her Prem at all anymore. If she did, she should have been least worried about Prem stealing chahat from her.

2. Prem never badmouths Heer with anyone, not only he accepts his faults and he is badly guilty about them.

3. While Prem is seriously wrong about Rajveer-Heer and what he did is unforgivable, we also need to take into an account of how much Heer pushed him. If we think Heer is hurt too much and her anger is justified now. please note Prem was in that same state of mind when he doubted Heer with Rajvir.

3. About Heer always having faith/trust in Prem, it that true dear?? In many instances she trusted people around before trusting Prem first. Most often it is Prem who has worked hard to gain the trust of Heer, Example Manmeet,RR, Sanjana, Gmom. (Nadia/Rakshu already briefed enough so not going about it again). Please don't get me wrong they both fought for each other, whenever one went of out of loop other worked hard to bring them back to the same track. That is why we always loved them'. no???

4. "if he does it again" - Shifu it hurts badly to read this. Is Prem the "bottom feeder"?? at least that is how Heer is projecting him to the world!! Is that what we understood of Prem after all these days! Will he ever do it again, we are talking about our Prem right !!! His whole life is an example of goodness after all the people in the world, do you think Prem will do it again ??

The same Prem who fought world for his Heer, the Prem who couldn't get marry to Ash because he loved Heer more than his life, Prem who swallows all his pain and stays as ajnabhi to his own chahat and, takes satisfaction in getting the glimpse of his daughter from the distance so that doesn't break his wife's heart. Prem who is never exhausted of going back to his wife in spite of all the hate/false accusations. Will he do it again ??😲

I wonder how Everything Heer does just becomes right and every small thing Prem does falters. Whatever she does is to make him happy and everything Prem does is to make heer unhappy ??

Shifu' I really try hard to stay away from debates as I love people on this forum, don't want to hurt anyone as this PREM-HEER thing has become a sensitive subject around. But I couldn't help it dear.. Especially after reading how Prem is misunderstood over and over gain!!

My take on this is ...they both were wrong, but they will come out of all this and prove Prem-Heer are one again.. till then we all have to hold on to our horses..