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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: ~Pachu*n*Abhi~

Rooj: When one member of the group started bashing..the WHOLE gang came and supported him/her...that's why the decision.

The pia campaign, its like the "petitions" that JB/AD Fans put up, do we close that? NOPE!!! And also about closing the "Rejoicing" topic, it's open again Rooj, and i did apolozised in this very thread, so no complaints on that.

Pachu i know that.

but the issue is still there. and the Pia campaign was not even complete. some took as a good laugh and i admired that but most didn't like it because it was becoming unnecessary. but lets not go there.

i know you opened the topic but the issue still remains the same. this not about that topic anymore. it is much bigger, don't you think? but like i suggested we can have a section here where we can discuss matters like these and come to a decision as a whole family instead of just the authority. a nation works if everyone works together and the leaders take decisions with the people. so im just asking for section where we can discuss in the open and come to calm decisions.

that is all.

rooj

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Posted: 18 years ago

I hope I'm not to late because, seriously, after reading 14 pages I do want to get a word in!πŸ˜•

First; regarding the point that Garv_Kumud_4_eva (did I get that right?) brought up....

Everyone who's supporting Megs isn't just a JW fan.....we're KSians to....Ask any of our mods and they'll agree that KSians have tore apart every single character on this show with JW and Bani getting the most bashing.....

When new characters entered this show, we continued with the praise and the bashing - basically stating our opinion....but some were taken to seriously and turned in to fights were members attacked members over their favourite character....

Maybe I'm wrong but as far as I can remember - that has never happened on KS before....

But I'm not holding the ADians at fault because not all JW fans were innocent in what happened....but the point is that the usually friendly and active forum turned in to a warzone and the Dev. Team did what they thought best - bought in new rules!

You have to applaud their hard work and commitment to KS forum.......I handle two quite forums and I find that hard - imagine what it must be like for them!

They acted accordingly and in a way, were too soft because I read what the CM's and GM's have to say about forums on I-F and the KS Dev. Team do have to answer to their seniors....

One thing I don't agree with is the no bashing characters rule.....virtually impossible in Kekta show (my very biased opinion!πŸ˜†) and so that was broken more than once.....

But closing the JB post was a mistake....Mods realised it and re-opened it and that was that.....

Even so; I do feel that Mods are a tad bit more wary of JB posts....not because they hate us and think we're troublemakers.....but I guess it's because if one brings up a point which other groups might not like; then like a domino effect; more and more JBians will agree until there's a whole ruckus and other groups join in.....bashing goes on etc.

Basically; they just want to avoid the WW's KS forum has seen....

Not sure if anyone understood my reply but basically, I agree with both sides though the Dev. Team has rules and regulations to abide by and it does it's best....the rest is up to us members!

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Posted: 18 years ago
Rooj...i didn't misunderstand anybody...
U know what...i think one shuld post whatever they want in the forum...and let someone else who feels otherwise post whatever he or she wants.
I have attacked people...but never regretted it, coz they called for it and i have been warned too, now i don't question that either. i know u respect the mods and want to discuss freedom of speech but seriously this topic seems otherwise...more like against the mods.
Just like the topics were made to bash/discuss AD πŸ˜†

Rooj, I am not calling for a fight. I haven't fought on the forum till date πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†, no kiddin!
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Posted: 18 years ago
Nibbles it's Garv_kumud_4eva not 4_eva πŸ˜† ...its cool though!
but yea the people supporting the topic are JW fans πŸ˜† i will stand by what i said! 😊
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Posted: 18 years ago

^^^I don't see why you insist it that it's JW fans when we're discussing about JBians!πŸ˜•

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Posted: 18 years ago


Of course we r not gonna let people just bash AD, the world doesn't
revolve around JW...there are people out there who have a better
choice...and that is AD. So if I came to my AD's defense then what is
there to whine about.



See...the line b/w reality and fiction is being blurred here again. AD is
fictional!

the world doesn't revolve around JW...there are people out there
who have a better choice...and that is AD.


And Garv, u are breaking ur own rule and bashing JW and JW fans
here. If u feel so offended when we bash AD then why bash JW? But
even if u do that's ok...we know he is fictional and we don't mind.

My question is, why do u get angry when fictional characters are
bashed? For ages JB and other characters were bashed mercilessly
(often by JBians themselves) when they did something wrong.
Suddenly, a new character enters and the entire forum rules have to
change for him? Why? Please clarify.

And guys, let's not be hyper-sensitive.
Edited by putturani - 18 years ago
RonitPallaviNR thumbnail
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Posted: 18 years ago
Putturani, when u bash a character u r fond of then that is love for that character. AD fans are also RR fans, and we have bashed Rishabh Bajaj and even AD at times too...coz we love those characters. People are not stupid to realize whether that bashing is done just to show hatred or care for the character.
I know this is fictional...but thanks for reminding me of that. I appreciate it. πŸ˜† My life toh revolves around KS πŸ˜† πŸ˜† and it's characters... πŸ˜† πŸ˜† that i lost touch of reel and real life.
And the rules being changed for AD...nobody asked the forum to change the rules...if AD was bashed i freakin bashed JW too...or defended AD. I don't know what's there to clarify...
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: Garv_Kumud_4eva

Rooj...i didn't misunderstand anybody... u just did hun. here let me explain
U know what...i think one shuld post whatever they want in the forum...and let someone else who feels otherwise post whatever he or she wants. exactly no one is stopping them but when one starts getting to attached to a character that they can't tell a difference between real and reel characters then you have problem. let me ask you something: you liked AD first and came to IF for RR didnt you? exactly my point there. maybe not you but other RR fans took AD's character like an insult towards RR, which was clearly not the case here. we have some RR fans who don't like AD's character and same goes for RK fan who don't like his portrayal of Thakral in Kyunki. but this forum is not about JW fans either it is about JB rano-Ranv. and many more. and the person who made the post likes to Bash JW when it is needed but that doesn't mean she won't defend him when need be...but she also bashes Bani, while others defend her. she maybe JW fan but we have some members who are Bani fans and we have healthy discussions here before AD enterence where we never took those discussions to heart and we never will.
I have attacked people...but never regretted it, coz they called for it and i have been warned too, now i don't question that either. i know u respect the mods and want to discuss freedom of speech but seriously this topic seems otherwise...more like against the mods. again you misunderstand hun, we are not against the mods. we are appreciating it fully and i admire them for what they do. i at times stand up for them but a nation doesn't run if you can't question its rules now can it? i mean at times some of these rules are just too ridiculous. now you said that you have attacked people many times well then i believe that you should be banned for that since you have broken those rules many times, but you are getting around easily by just getting warned(that is my opinion). but see that is not fair to others right? so we are questioning the mods on that topic along with freedom of speech which is clearly taken away by making rules like not bashing a character(mind you we never had a problem before until the ADians came to defend) and this is exactly called calling for fights.
Just like the topics were made to bash/discuss AD πŸ˜† yes and i don't mind them but at times those were taken to the heart and hence closed down.

Rooj, I am not calling for a fight. I haven't fought on the forum till date πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†, no kiddin! you are wrong there, as i clearly remember u did with me and you are doing it now.



and sammie,
i agree with Puttarani here.
give me a reason why the rules changed after the WW or AD's entry...just provide me a reason here that how come that is called fairness to other groups here?
rooj
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Posted: 18 years ago
Rooj,
I came here strictly for RR, i agree otherwise I was not interested in this show at all, and never will be after he exits...so u guys wont see any of me...so it will be another reason to celebrate after the JB union πŸ˜†
I am not mixing up reel and real life...and i won't try to justify myself, i seriously have a life...none of AD fans kept any name for JW it was the famous weasel and what not... refering to AD that provoked usπŸ˜† then we kept names for JW and the war began.
Well I like thakral, soooo i will support thakral...but i also love mihir, but still i don't go around bashing thakral and calling him names coz i know there are other peole who like him too...
RK has performed brilliantly as Thakral but he fails to impress me as JW...just like AD did with u guys...so yea...i don't know what u are talking about
u wrote, how Adians came to defend and the rules and all came up...i m honored to see that u actually think we are capable of doing that... πŸ˜‰
we are able to change the rules...i m sure we made a gr8 impact...we must be the better group πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

i was being sarcastic about the whole...not fighting ...i do fight, like i m right now...or shuld i say DISCUSS!! hahahaha
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: nibbles

I hope I'm not to late because, seriously, after reading 14 pages I do want to get a word in!πŸ˜•

First; regarding the point that Garv_Kumud_4_eva (did I get that right?) brought up....

Everyone who's supporting Megs isn't just a JW fan.....we're KSians to....Ask any of our mods and they'll agree that KSians have tore apart every single character on this show with JW and Bani getting the most bashing.....

When new characters entered this show, we continued with the praise and the bashing - basically stating our opinion....but some were taken to seriously and turned in to fights were members attacked members over their favourite character....

Maybe I'm wrong but as far as I can remember - that has never happened on KS before....

But I'm not holding the ADians at fault because not all JW fans were innocent in what happened....but the point is that the usually friendly and active forum turned in to a warzone and the Dev. Team did what they thought best - bought in new rules!

You have to applaud their hard work and commitment to KS forum.......I handle two quite forums and I find that hard - imagine what it must be like for them!

They acted accordingly and in a way, were too soft because I read what the CM's and GM's have to say about forums on I-F and the KS Dev. Team do have to answer to their seniors....

One thing I don't agree with is the no bashing characters rule.....virtually impossible in Kekta show (my very biased opinion!πŸ˜†) and so that was broken more than once.....

But closing the JB post was a mistake....Mods realised it and re-opened it and that was that.....

Even so; I do feel that Mods are a tad bit more wary of JB posts....not because they hate us and think we're troublemakers.....but I guess it's because if one brings up a point which other groups might not like; then like a domino effect; more and more JBians will agree until there's a whole ruckus and other groups join in.....bashing goes on etc.

Basically; they just want to avoid the WW's KS forum has seen....

Not sure if anyone understood my reply but basically, I agree with both sides though the Dev. Team has rules and regulations to abide by and it does it's best....the rest is up to us members!



Thank you Nibbles for putting forward the correct views and that too eloquently. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

But yes even as a Development Team, we are open to suggestions to make people's lives easy over here. We are definitely not against any group, we just want everything to run smoothly without hitches.

As for the CMs and GMs, its always difficult to answer back appropriately for subjective actions.

As always, suggestions are always welcome.

KS Development Team

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