RESPECT

I loved Thursday's episode.

The underlying theme of the episode I thought was RESPECT.

Shakuni teaching his nephew how to be disrespectful towards his wife and maybe woman in general.

Duryodhan who is influenced by his mama goes to Bhanumathi's room trying to force her. Enters Karna loved the scene and the dialogues.

One which, resonated with me is No means "NO such a powerful message seems valid for the current times where people all around the world need to understand that this word has no ifs or buts, no ambiguity but just means NO.

Loved Karna's talk to Duryodhana about winning with Love and took that same message to Shakuni when he says Might does not characterize force.

I may have missed some of the nuances but I think this was the essence.

Duryodhana Respects his friend as he tells Bhanumathi, Karna is his conscience, as he guides him and stops him from making mistakes. This Respect for the words of his friend makes him leave Bhanumathi and does not listen to shakuni's machinations.

Uruvi is seeing another facet of Karna and her Respect for this man grows, she wonders was I wrong in judging him and so when she slashes him and he falls down she feels she has wronged him in some way and apologizes.

Bhanumathi did I see a tinge of Respect in her eyes for Karna ..maybe this is a beginning of a beautiful friendship too.

Closing with a quote by Dalai Lama, which I thought, was apt for the relationship between Karna and Duryodhana

"When you practice gratefulness, there is a sense of respect towards others."

One practices Gratefulness and another in turn respects.

I am going to let the prolific writers of this forum to expand upon all the nuances that I may have missed.
I love reading all the varied thoughts in this forum to the funny take of Jamy, to the deep thinking of Shyamala Aunty, Najma, Ritu, Gargi, Fairy and the rest in this forum.

Thoughts welcome

I really enjoy reading everyone s analysis ! Kudos to you all ! Taking time to reply cause I feel we need to get the forum more active !
The only thing I didnt get / like was the transition from the conversation to Urvi & Bhanu escaping ! Urvi seemed so in awe of Karn and i felt Bhanu was relieved Duryodhan changed his mind , was kind of surprised after such a solid convo they just jumped into trying to escape - looking at the precap I thought Karn would convice Duryodhan about staying away from Bhanu all the while when Bhanu & Urvi oblivious to this convo would be plotting to escape ! Maybe I was so convinced this is how it ll play out I was a tad dissappointed
Am I the only one pained that Urvi didnt lose it when Karn was losing consciousness ! Yea she said it lasts for a few and he ll be ok but common its Karn and what was Karn really trying to acheive there holding on to the saree pallu
Excited for tomorrow , he looked so serious walking away from the dungeon , poor Urvi

Your analysis is on point.

Karna's take on marital relation didn't appear contemporary to me. Arthashastra repeatedly mentions that a man must not have s*x with a woman without her consent. Whether every man practised it or not is a different thing. But the idea is not contemporary. Na ka matlab was na!

We studied the Arthashastra during our IFS training, but we focussed on politics and strategy and administration, and we never encountered these sage admonitions.

What I meant was the idea was not contemporary.

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

What I meant was the idea was not contemporary.

Swayamvars were actually misnomers in my opinion. Look at the well known Swayamvars. Sita's and Draupadi's were a competition, effectively taking away or at least limiting the woman's agency of choice. And the ones which actually stayed true to the concept quickly turned into disasters e.g. Amba Ambika Ambalika's Swayamvara or Kalinga princess' (Popularly known as Bhanumati) sawayamvara. The only Swayamvara where the woman made a choice of her own and others didn't blow a fuse seems to be Kunti's, at least in my knowledge.

Originally posted by: SweetRogue

Swayamvars were actually misnomers in my opinion. Look at the well known Swayamvars. Sita's and Draupadi's were a competition, effectively taking away or at least limiting the woman's agency of choice. And the ones which actually stayed true to the concept quickly turned into disasters e.g. Amba Ambika Ambalika's Swayamvara or Kalinga princess' (Popularly known as Bhanumati) sawayamvara. The only Swayamvara where the woman made a choice of her own and others didn't blow a fuse seems to be Kunti's, at least in my knowledge.