Was It Really Uncalled For????? - Page 6

Originally posted by: LovesToBeLoved

@Bold Sorry till what time?? R u trying to say Nandini has done nothing for them??

Sorry, but I disagree.. This is not the first time she is lashing out.. So band kar ke rakne ka point I don't understand..

Lot of things happened.. Yes. But who is responsible for that? After breaking up with Manik she never thought about what exactly went wrong instead got busy with making plans to get DhruNi together so that she can get Manik back..

Then With Dhruv she was equally at fault.. She had time when Dhruv was away.. But she never thought about the real reason for fallouts..

It's not like I don't want to sympathise with her.. At one point, I felt relly really bad for her.. But this time around she came out as a very selfish person.. I don't have problem with her lashing out at Manik, but the points she made were totally wrong.. It was like hitting bellow the belt just to get back at him.. If she had shouted at Manik for being over protective or pushing Dhruv towards her not considering/hearing her side of the story then I would have rooted for her.. But she compared Manik and Dhruv twice.. She made it all about herself without regretting her mistakes and blamed Manik just because he was happy with Nandini.. It just sounded like "How selfish of u Manik, U r being all happy and romancing ur girlfriend when m not happy!!!".. Even with Dhruv, she is putting entire blame on him.. But I don't see much difference between them,, Only difference is Kriss as an actor selling her vulnerabilities quite well, whereas Uttu stands like a robot.. But that's about it.. otherwise they are on the same page. There is only so much of pity party one can take.

@Blue My problem is this is going on from day one. Blame game never ends.

Originally posted by: ishitaa22

@Red...arre when she send goons after nandini...till dat time. she was nt thinking at dat time...nm nt defending her actions, m jst saying ki wen we feel helpless we sometimes do tend to take xtreme measures...n nandini ke aane se sbse zyada nuksaan aliya ka hi hora tha cause her bf was going away frm her.

How does that matter?? She hasn't apologized till date. right?

@bold...yaar whu wuldnt try to salvage deir 7 yr old relationship. aliya really was into manik n she being a teenager was nly thining ki if dhruv and nandini get together then maybe nandini n manik's path will nt cross dat much. it hadnt xactly hit her yet ki uska 7 long yrs relation has come to such abrupt end!

So, She was being utterly selfish right?? Neither did she think about Manik nor about Dhruv.. All she could think of is herself.. 7years or 70years.. How wrong was it to send goons after an innocent girl? While Harshed is considered as villain for doing such things and Alya is just an impulsive teenager? Uper she blames Nandini whenever she gets a chance. I would have bought this point had she apologized or atleast thought about it for once.. But well, that's not the point here.. As many claim she is a changed person now, though I fail to see the change..😆

@pink i agree dis is nt the first time...but dis is d first wen fr once she is getting d attention. when nandini got kidnapped she voiced her opinion bt uss time manik went into hiding n again a much bigger thing came up and her feeling were sideswept and they were involved in prooving maniks innocence. so in a way here feelings were bottled up na..

Well, I don't think so.. She said all those things she wanted to say.. May be more than what she said in last episode.. She had a convo with Dhruv aswell, and slapped him.

@blue yaar sometimes when we see our close frnds moving on and having perfect lives while ours is a complete disaster n nothing in our is going even remotly good n we have nuthing to luk frwrd too...dnt we get a tiny bit jealous? she after all nly human. she is feeling bad fr herself and d eating disorder is playing wid her minsdset too. she is in a completly diff zone abi.

Please don't tell me ppl are empathizing with her for her jealousy.. What did Manik do to deserve such a self-centered friend? He never lived for himself in past 19 years, for once the boy is getting the love he deserves from Nandini and being happy, and his so called family who he values more than anything ruins it for jealousy?? Seriously?? In that case, I detest such friendship. SorryNoSorry.

n regarding ur dhruv being a robot thing...i dnt think ki wo reason tha. dhruv's accusations were completly off point or maybe i dnt really remember those episodes ache se bt d way dhruv treated aliya it was really inhumane n in d current episode too dhruv again blames manik...so i dnt think ki u can actually compare dhruv wid aliya.

M not comparing Dhruv and ALya's doings to Manik.. I'm comparing their faults as a couple.. Yes Dhruv went overboard and made Alya feel like shit.. But as I said Alya was the one who fuelled his insecurities and she is the main reason why Dhruv turned into a dick.. Had she handled it lil maturely this wouldn't have happened.. They both are equally at fault.. Alya was still carrying the baggage and She used Dhruv as a rebound and vice-versa.. And Both Dhruv and Alya's accusations are off point.. Both blamed MaNan..

Originally posted by: LovesToBeLoved

@Bold when did dis happen??😕

And Manik had no one when he sacrificed Nandini.. Neither his friends nor Nandini.. No one saw his hidden pain, tears or heard his unsaid words except for Cabeer who entered the scene much later.

Moreover, no one saw the real broken Manik who was, vulnerable, craved for love, scared of dark till Nandini came and changed everything.

In contrary Manik was always there for his friends and Mukti was continuously asking Alya to share her pain and vent out.. It's Alya who decided to rely on chocolates..

Sorry, but I would have rooted for her if she had worked on herself a little and fought for her, self-respect instead of blaming the wrong person for wrong reasons.

I think she needs to pay attention to herself and introspect, realise her own contribution in ruining everything instead of craving for attention.

Originally posted by: Arshalicious

Fab5 have been nothing but supportive about Manan...They all readily followed Manik in his quest to woo Nandini to Manglore without a second thought...They all went out of their way to support MaNan during the Pandit fiasco...They tried to reunite MaNan when Manik was angry with Nandini...Now why can't the same amount of support be extended towards Alia? If Alia is self-involved, then Manik is rash and impulsive too...Both of them have their faults but friends are supposed to be there for you through all times no matter what are your faults are...When Dhruv had created such a big scene, Fab5 spent such a long time coming up with plans to get him back...So now if Alia needs some attention from her friends then what's wrong with that...If Alia is feeling lost, then as her friends Fab5 can go out of their way to help her find herself

Originally posted by: -sylph-

Not watching the show from quiet sometime, happened to visit here today to find MM's post and this post and few things said here caught my attention and i did read today's WU .

I always wonder why does Alya get a free pass for the goon incident and the following break up that happened with Manik. Did not Alya harm Manik as much as she did to nandini in that incident? Ok she made a mistake which nobody denies but how many of them are brave to admit it? She was scared and lost. Everyone else can be pardoned but Alya is being criticised left right and center.
She let her bf of 7 yrs, a friend she had known from long carry the tag of criminal, someone who sent goons to take away Nandini, she let Manik carry that blame , she was fine seeing two close friends fight and Dhruv beating Manik , she was fine seeing ManRuv fight and Dhruv blaming and holding Manik responsible for the goon incident , not once did she OWN up to her mistake while the two close friends fought, not once she owned upto her mistake when Manik was blamed wrongly and held responsible for when he had no clue about that incident. Until Manik thought it was an act from Harshad and went on to charge at him she had her mouth shut and watched her bf be wrongly blamed, accused of a horrible crime that he did not do. Offo 😆 I am tired of repeating the point time and again. It was about Manik taking that incident for an excuse. I am not even accusing Manik for breaking up. A relationship is being dragged then best end it. But even before that incident happened he had felt a pull towards Nandini. And YES he did not know what that pull, so I won't accuse him for not telling her about his unnamed feelings. But yes, he could have told her its not working out and then split up with her. I am not calling Manik a criminal for God's sake but just pointed out that his action as a friend was wrong.
Just thinking what if Nandini was took away that day from goons, did Nandini or Manik deserve that, all for what? Her BLOODY insecurity? NO! 😵 They did not deserve it from any angle. I hope I have made this point CLEAR!
If a gf is insecure, why not have a direct talk with bf and tell him hat's bothering her? Did she not do that? She did try to voice it out but Manik ignored it as her rant. Maybe it was her rant but he could have tried to do something to help her get rid of HER insecurity. And here also I am pointing out it was Alya who was insecure and not blaming Manik but the least he could have done was assure her in some way or the other.

Despite all these Manik was supposed to give her a leeway and not break upor this is not a good enough reason to break up? . Manik took her a friend despite all these, Nandini still is warm to her despite all these, though UNTIL this very epi she has not apologised to either Manik nor Nandini of her shameful act, not once does she introspect on where she went wrong. For tat matter neither did Cabir nor Mukti. Everyone is speaking about apologising but she redeemed herself and she did support them during FC and Pandit track. So none of the good stuff matter in the face of an apology now?

One need's to realize their own mistakes, introspect and grow as individual's . Manik , Cabir, Nandini have done that enough times, that is why their character's are appreciated coz the growth is seen. I cannot say the same about Alya, all she had done is blame Manik, blame Nandini, blame Dhruv whenever she had her lows. Also, whenever her demands be not fulfilled the easiest thing she mouths is fab5 is no more, so until her whims and fancies are satisfied fab5 are the best and she goes about preaching Dhruv on how much Manik has done to them and how he has been there for them always, whilst when it comes to her problems where in she herself needs to introspect and grow as an individual Mani has done nothing for us, he has drifted apart, he spends more time with Nandini and blah. She hit such a low blow today , and it undid all her growth for me ! Manik, Cabir and Nandini had someone to support them and they had found a reason to do that. Manik had found Nandini who killed the monster in him and Cabir found a way to redeem for his bad deeds by supporting Navya, the same girl he had left no stone unturned while torturing her. Whom did Alya have? Did anyone see through her pain and suffering? When Dhruv humiliated her everyone were busy in trying to placate him but it was Alya who was treated like shit. Did anyone try to console or comfort her?

Alya needs to first realize her mistakes, she hasnt been saint in any of the issues, including her break up with Dhruv, she fuelled his insecurities too.
Also, she needs to introspect how many times has she been there for Manik that she goes about accusing him about his priority list, her own damned criminal of a brother wouldn be out of jail had it not been for Manik, Cabir/Mukti more or less agreed to bail out Harshad coz of Manik while Manik could have got his hand amputated coz of her bro and Cabir was attacked so bloody badly. As for Harshad if she really supported him she wouldn't have stood by Mukti. Blood ties are weird and they bind you in a way you cannot deny or run from them. For that matter Manik knew something about Harshad and Nyonika. He stood against Harshad and Nyonika too. But did he give away Nyonika before others? He did not and he could not. Because Nyonika's truth would bring shame to his own family and am pretty sure he did it to protect his dad too. So should he blamed now as well? He knew how badly Mukti suffered but did he offer to explain on whom Harshad cheated on? Harshad maybe selfish n a horrible person but he is still her brother. She will not want to see him humiliated before the world and same goes for Manik. Even though he hurls insults at Nyonika at home he never does that outside. Harshad may not be the typical caring brother but being a brother he does care for her a teeny bit. And Alya too will have feelings for him. He might be a criminal to the rest of the world but for her he is her brother.
She needs to stop expecting from others and first learn to work on her self and become a better person. If she has no right to expect anything from her friends then that should be applicable to the rest of them too. Am not saying she should not retrospect her own actions but its not wrong for one to expect some concern from their friends when they r going through a bad phase.

edit: typos.

Originally posted by: anni80

when u say that she somewhere down the line knew that they are drifting apart... what would a GF do to save her relationship... will she doubt him more or will she try to keep faith in "them"... if she was truly in love with Manik then why she let all to accuse Manik... why did she not come in between when dhruv punched him???

Alya would have been at her BEST and CORRECT if she would have accused Manik for trying to patch up between her & Dhruv without even asking for her feelings... he has no right to do patch up just going by Dhruv's apology... her character would be at high then coz she would have been fighting for her self respect ... but she chose to accuse him for the thing which was not even logical...

Originally posted by: FieryHeart

Even before the kiss thing happened Manik used to fuss over Nandini and Alya wasn ever perfect. She had her flaws and probably she could sense Manik wasn too serious abt her. So she was bound to be insecure. She probably doesn begrudge Manik his happiness and she acknowledged that too but when everything is so messed up, she is bound to get mad at him. Even today she told him she isn mad at him for moving on but she is for his ignorance towards her. That girl loved Manik for a long time and if he is drifting away is it easy for her to see? She made an effort to get back. DhruLya were complicated from the word GO but I would say if they failed in the end it was coz of Dhruv coz Alya had tried to mend it from her end. The only time Manik was wrong was when he broke up with that excuse. It looked like he wanted to get her off his back. It was insensitive on her part to blame Manik then but Manik shdn have hid the truth either that Soha was being a psycho. Their album is not more important than Nandini's life. But it was their dream too. Didn Manik owe them the truth or an explanation? Had they known all of this from the start and later blamed Manik I would say they were selfish jerks myself.

Originally posted by: Arshalicious

Fab5 have been nothing but supportive about Manan...They all readily followed Manik in his quest to woo Nandini to Manglore without a second thought...They all went out of their way to support MaNan during the Pandit fiasco...They tried to reunite MaNan when Manik was angry with Nandini...Now why can't the same amount of support be extended towards Alia? If Alia is self-involved, then Manik is rash and impulsive too...Both of them have their faults but friends are supposed to be there for you through all times no matter what are your faults are...When Dhruv had created such a big scene, Fab5 spent such a long time coming up with plans to get him back...So now if Alia needs some attention from her friends then what's wrong with that...If Alia is feeling lost, then as her friends Fab5 can go out of their way to help her find herself

Originally posted by: CrazyMe_04

Its not true that Fab 5 have always been supportive of MaNan. Even Nandini hadn't been accepted immediately by Fab 5. The difference was that Nandini hadn't blasted out for that.

And as you say that Fab 5 had been ready to help Manik for Nandini. They would have been for Aliya too. Manik decided to share his problems with his friends whereas Aliya decided to keep shut after many attempts of Mukti to make her share her problems. What's anyone's fault if Aliya decided to rely on chocolates?

Fab 5 have tried to go out of their way to prove their friendship for Aliya but Aliya, being a stubborn head, just doesn't want to listen. What can anyone do in that situation?

And as for Dhruv's situation, one thing that I have noticed is that in both situations, the one to accuse is Manik. WHY?! Is it like a rule that whatever problem occurs, the one to blame is Manik. FOR AN ABSOLUTE NO GOOD REASON?!