Was It Really Uncalled For?????

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Most of them are blaming Alya at the moment for hurting and blaming Manik. But has anyone bothered to consider what she is going through? Or has been till then? I think except for Cabir, everyone else have hurt her in one way or the other.

Manik - She loved this guy from a very long time and longed to be with him. And when it did happen, it was something very special for her. (If you have seen the WH merger epi Vibha in fb tells Manik Alya loves him truly but for Manik it was nothing beyond a casual affair). Agreed she was wrong in sending the goons after Nandini but who prompted her to take such a drastic move? Manik was obsessed with Nandini to an extent that he forgot Fab 5, forgot his girlfriend to be mean to Nandini. Everyone goes gaga over MaNan's epic love but what about the love Alya had for Manik? MaNan have barely been together for a year but Alya Manik had been together for nearly 7 years. That was not fake, neither was it the passing affair kind. When Manik broke up with her, he gave her an excuse that he is doing it coz she didn't trust him but fact remains that he did it because he felt the relation was being dragged and he admitted it too post the Valentine Day fiasco. And who was he to judge Alya when he himself mentally tortured Nandini? 🥱 Post break up, it didn't take him long to get close to Nandini. Nobody will complain here coz everyone wanted MaNan together but what of Alya? Back then she wanted nothing more than to get back with Manik. Didn't Manik betray her as both as a boyfriend and as a friend? He could have given Alya a chance or taken courage to admit the truth instead of using her one mistake as an excuse. And was she wrong when she pointed that all of them kept their personal lives secondary and Fab 5 came first? Ever since Nandini came into their lives, for Manik it was all about Nandini. Nandini goes into depression coz of one kidnapping incident and Manik makes a decision to go after her to Mangalore without consulting his friends. Was he not thrusting his decisions on them? They tagged along being his friends but when has he kept Nandini aside since that moment to be with his friends? They all stood by him during the FC and also post the kidnapping without saying one word. What kind of friendship is this where one person's life eclipses your friendship and also your own personal life? Would you like it if your friend did this to you? Manik has been a great friend in more than one way but that does not change the fact that he made some mistakes too.

Dhruv - Dhruv happened to Alya without a warning. She was helping him get Nandini so that she could patch up with Manik. Her intention was not only to get Manik back by getting rid of Nandini but she also knew Manik would want to see Dhruv happy. They share an accidental kiss and how should she react? She is confused. On one hand she is helping this guy to get the girl he loves and on the other she kisses him? Should she assume Dhruv will start liking her forgetting Nandini just because he kissed her? Did Dhruv say anything or make a move towards Alya? It was an unspoken bond. They had a communication gap after they had a one night stand which led to Alya thinking Dhruv felt it was a mistake and vice versa. Dhruv went about insulting her so badly, even went to the extent of accusing her to be a cheap person who used him as a physical letout. Yet she musters the courage to confess to him before all her friends that she loves him. But what does Dhruv do? He humiliated her in the worst possible manner by not only rejecting her but throwing her back at Manik like she is some kind of rag doll. I am sure most of you were pissed when Manik treated Nandini like a toy giving her up for Dhruv. But what about this? This was much worse than that.

Mukti - She went against her own brother for this girl. Was it any easy? Harshad is her brother and no matter what, this bond cannot be refuted. She loves her brother like any sister does but she went against him because he cheated on her friend. Its never too easy to choose friends over family but she did. Mukti may not be doing anything wrong since she is getting cozy with Harshad to find out what he is up to. But how will Alya feel about it when she sees them together? She went through all the emotional turmoil and for what? To see her friend get back with her brother? From what she saw she was not wrong to assume Mukti had not come for her but to spend time with her brother.

She is going through such a bad phase from a long time and no one noticed it. Not that it was not visible to any of them. It was always there but none of them cared to notice it. She went through her personal hell herself. Did she have her friends with her? Singing a song, cutting a cake on Friendship Day wont change what she went through and it won't change the fact that she did not have her friends with her when she needed them the most. She had told her brother her friends had her back but did they really? Ever since getting together with Nandini, what has Manik done for his friends? Nandini is definitely not at fault here like Alya pointed out. But being a friend could Manik see through her pain?

This is a bad phase for Fab 5 but this will also test their friendship. I am glad Alya spoke up coz she had bottled it up from a long time and it had to come out of her. I agree circumstances have created this mess but its high time all of them including Manik, Alya and Dhruv got their priorities right.
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Completely agree. I see that Manik does a lot for Nandini and he is the perfect boyfriend but as a friend he definitely falls short atleast in terms of Alya. I dont get after being in a relationship for 7 years, that someone can break up with the other so easily. That is someone you said i love you too, thats someone that you were physically close to and it is known they did it. But he made that decision for them, without even asking her once. He said it was over, so it was over. Ok after that he asks her to lie to fab 5 and tell them that they are still in a relationship to keep them happy. WHY? Does he not know how painful and hurtful that can be for any girl. If that was me, I would have been shattered to keep up this kind of act. During this time, he is also busy with Nandini. Come on how many days had it even been since their break up. Forget all of this, now that Dhruv realizes his mistake, Manik has no problem trying to patch Dhruv and Alya back together. Sorry but W*F. Did you ask Alya if she wanted this? Why force someone on to her when he has humiliated and insulted her so much. This is the type of guy you want for your friend? Why are all of Maniks decisions dumped on Alya without even asking her once? What kind of one sided friendship is this? I realize the whole forum thinks Manik is the inncoent one in all of this, but place yourself in Alyas shoes for once.
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Alya- They drifted apart,visible in day 1. She called her thing with Manik- "celeb thing". Yes she was obsessed with her perfect life with Manik, was it love? Don't know because they hardly connected emotionally ever. Both are to be blamed. She was okay with Manik manhandling Nandini , letting a girl be ragged by her own bf but she flipped when an accident happened. She was there, Manik didn't cause that accident kiss . So how does Alya reacts, blames Nandini for it rather than talking to her own bf about it and airing out her differences.
Girl send goons to Nandini- never apologized. Allowed Manik to take the blame for it. So yes if Manik crossed a line with her , so did she. Fair enough.

They have had 2-3 closure talks. The fault was of both. Not just Manik, here is the blame on her.

Cabir almost died because of Harshad, yet he forgave him for Alya's sake. And it was organized by Dhruv and Manik. Umm, when did they leave her alone. She herself told Mukti that Manik and she drifted, had a different thing, nobody is to be blamed for .

Keep throwing the other guy under the bus to paint yourself the victim.

It wasn't just Manik between Dhruv-Alya but Alya brought Nandini too many times. She never wanted her thing with Dhruv to be out in public or in front of fab5 . Because she thought that would ruin relationship-so how is fab5 blamed for not knowing her thing?

She called out Manik for prioritizing Nandini even when Manik's love almost died coz of Soha. At the hospital.

Dhruv thing - Again Alya is blaming only Dhruv for it when it was her rage against Nandini and Manik that started their break-up and latter's insecurities. Convenient, victim play.


Her depression- Arya , Dhruv , Manik- blame the world but girl has never looked at her own action. Sorry no sympathizes



Dhruv - So nice , till the point Manik was bad, he was fine, letting his friend be the fall guy. But the moment Manik got his glory and shined, Dhruv is PMsing, even though he knows what all manik has done for him. he was ready to let Dhruv to sing at the FC too. So much history , yet the guy things Manik is all about himself.


Sorry, it's very easy to buy their pity party, but funny how they have all used and abused Manik. They want him to leave everything and be with them but they hardly ever been in his low-time. Dhruv-breakdown- all left, Nyo- nobody stays in the room.


Edited by charminggenie - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with u... I never felt manik was as close to alya as he is with other fab 5 memebers... He not.even thought once about alya before siding with dhruv to get her back... Lets keep manan aside and think take 3 random people who went through what alya and manan went through 80 percent of the people will sympathize with alya's character.than manik's... Nandini has nothing to do with it... It was not her fault that manik got obsessed with her... We also cannot blame manik completely for what happened... He is shown as an implusive stubborn 19 year old boy so he going after nandu is justifiable... If it was done by a guy ib his mid or late 20s then be can blamed... Manik had no control over him when.it cones to nandini... He forgets everything.when it cones to her... Eventhough hr still loves his friends loke before his priorities have definitely changed. His friends has.no right to question him on that... Fab 5 can never take nandu's place in manik's life... He has a.possible future with her... She is someone who can give him a family of his own.. Fab5 should understand that... Alya has gone through a lot and she is angry at everyone and manik being the leader she targeted him more...
Manik and alya both are right at their own places... For dhruv o have nothing to say his character is pathetic and utkarsh's acting is not helping at all... Krissan.was also a newcomer alobg with him but now she.is far ahead of him and he.is where he started off...
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Originally posted by: isha93

Completely agree. I see that Manik does a lot for Nandini and he is the perfect boyfriend but as a friend he definitely falls short atleast in terms of Alya. I dont get after being in a relationship for 7 years, that someone can break up with the other so easily. That is someone you said i love you too, thats someone that you were physically close to and it is known they did it. But he made that decision for them, without even asking her once. He said it was over, so it was over. Ok after that he asks her to lie to fab 5 and tell them that they are still in a relationship to keep them happy. WHY? Does he not know how painful and hurtful that can be for any girl. If that was me, I would have been shattered to keep up this kind of act. During this time, he is also busy with Nandini. Come on how many days had it even been since their break up. Forget all of this, now that Dhruv realizes his mistake, Manik has no problem trying to patch Dhruv and Alya back together. Sorry but W*F. Did you ask Alya if she wanted this? Why force someone on to her when he has humiliated and insulted her so much. This is the type of guy you want for your friend? Why are all of Maniks decisions dumped on Alya without even asking her once? What kind of one sided friendship is this? I realize the whole forum thinks Manik is the inncoent one in all of this, but place yourself in Alyas shoes for once.


I second you 👍🏼 He broke up with her so easily without giving her a chance. And she was treated badly. Its OK if Manik does not want to take NO for an answer but its OK if others accept Manik's decision without questioning it. Before patching up DhruLya he should have checked with Alya once what she wants and help her out first as she was wronged. To be honest, the boundaries of right and wrong will never transcend MaNan for almost 90% of them in the forum. That is what I realised. You will have many of them fight for Manik and Nandini but hardly anybody is concerned for other characters. For once the focus shifts from MaNan the show is being dragged but the show is at its peak if u drag it with MaNan scenes that will probably have no meaning. I love MaNan but honestly their track has been dragged so much with the incessant break up make up sessions that somewhere down the line I began to lose interest. In the beginning there was an equal balance between Fab 5 and MaNan and that was when KY2 was at its peak for me.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

Alya- They drifted apart,visible in day 1. She called her thing with Manik- "celeb thing". Yes she was obsessed with her perfect life with Manik, was it love? Don't know because they hardly connected emotionally ever. Both are to be blamed. She was okay with Manik manhandling Nandini , letting a girl be ragged by her own bf but she flipped when an accident happened. She was there, Manik didn't cause that accident kiss . So how does Alya reacts, blames Nandini for it rather than talking to her own bf about it and airing out her differences.

Girl send goons to Nandini- never apologized. Allowed Manik to take the blame for it. So yes if Manik crossed a line with her , so did she. Fair enough.

They have had 2-3 closure talks. The fault was of both. Not just Manik, here is the blame on her.

Cabir almost died because of Harshad, yet he forgave him for Alya's sake. And it was organized by Dhruv and Manik. Umm, when did they leave her alone. She herself told Mukti that Manik and she drifted, had a different thing, nobody is to be blamed for .

Keep throwing the other guy under the bus to paint yourself the victim.

It wasn't just Manik between MaNan but Alya brought Nandini too many times. She never wanted her thing with Dhruv to be out in public or in front of fab5 . Becaus eshe thought that would ruin relationship-so how is fab5 blamed for not knowing her thing?

She called out Manik for prioritizing Nandini even when Manik's love almost died coz of Soha. At the hospital.

Dhruv thing - Again Alya is blaming only Dhruv for it when it was her rage against Nandini and Manik that started their break-up and latter's insecurities. Convenient, victim play.



Her depression- Arya , Dhruv , Manik- blame the world but girl has never looked at her own action. Sorry no sympathizes



Dhruv - So nice , till the point Manik was bad, he was fine, letting his friend be the fall guy. But the moment Manik got his glory and shined, Dhruv is PMsing, even though he knows what all manik has done for him. he was ready to let Dhruv to sing at the FC too. So much history , yet the guy things Manik is all about himself.


Sorry, it's very easy to buy their pity party, but funny how they have all used and abused Manik. They want him to leave everything and be with them but they hardly ever been in his low-time. Dhruv-breakdown- all left, Nyo- nobody stays in the room.



Totally agree with you...My question is if she was in love with Manik then how come it took her few days after their break up to fall for Dhruv...She herself was never in love with Manik! I didn't see her thinking about Manik when she was having her secret moments with Dhruv.What ever condition she is in now is cuz of her relationship with Dhruv.DhruLiya need grow up and sort their crap out instead of blaming Manik and Nandinin for everything that goes wrong in their life.Manik was right to break up with Alia cuz clearly he was with her just for fab 5 sake.But he should have been bit more clear about his reason and not make her feel she was the sole reason but for that she cant just nlame him for everything that goes wrong in her life.
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Manik betrayed her? For one mistake she made? Tell me, what kind of mistake is sending some burly men after an innocent girl who has never even said a word to Alya to make her do that? Aliya is suffering from depression, going through so much shit - does it change the fact that she is manipulative and used to be one of those I-get-what-I -want girls.She is manipulating Dhruv, his situation and everything going around to get the results that she prefers.

When you fall out of love with someone? When you don't want to be in a relationship with someone, you break it up. You don't drag them around with you and force yourself to have feelings for them when you are already falling for someone else.

Manik would have been betraying her if he would have kept pretending that he was into her just like she wanted to keep pretending that he was into her and just like Mukti wanted to keep them pretending to be sickly in love with each other for Mukti's peace of mind.

It does not matter how concerned you are about your relationship and how insecure you are feeling -- No one is going to force you to take a step like send guys after a girl who has become your boyfriend's new obsession -- it wasn't Nandini's fault. She is not obliged to face the consequences of what Aliya feels and what Manik does. You do that yourself, because you think it is fine to do that shit.
If there is so much power imbalance that instead of talking to your partner, slapping and shouting and and discussing things with your partner, your first reaction is to what? physically assault some girl? That is what you do then you already know that you are in a relationship which will never work.

Manik broke it off with her an never once did he try to use his past relationship with her to make her feel guilty or take advantage of it -- Aliya and Dhruv don't even wait a minute to start hurling accusations, start pointing out Manik's ignorance and Nandini's involvement -- It has become everyone's habit to blame Manik for everything that goes wrong in their lives because now he isn't always available to make it all alright for them -- I gues that is what you get for trying to make a family out of kids your age and act as their father figure -- The moment you are not ready to sacrifice everything and maybe you want o act like a kid yourself for once, everyone is going to blame you for every problem, every issue, every consequences of their action .

He broke it off because he was falling in love with someone else. That is what you do instead of keeping a girlfriend at your side like a trophy while you emotionally cheat on her.


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@FH- Personal opinions aside, did Alya ask Manik , when she started her thing with Dhruv, because she never had a clue about MaNan till that point. Yes Manik erred when he pushed Dhrulya and her lashing is justified there. But saying , he is shitty bf , well guess what she was shitty gf too-

Everyone is interested in all the characters, but not when they spew shit- when will Alya as a character introspect about her own actions. Her role in both the break-ups . When will anyone from fab5 own up their actions.

When was she there for Manik after their break-up? She wanted space as much as he did, girl was busy with Dhruv.

I won't comment on MaNan because that is your perception , but this show and MaNan trolled break-ups. They went through phases and worked on building the emotional tangents which is where Alya erred and never worked. Unlike MaNan , Dhrulya pushed and never worked on their dynamics.


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Originally posted by: charminggenie

Alya- They drifted apart,visible in day 1. She called her thing with Manik- "celeb thing". Yes she was obsessed with her perfect life with Manik, was it love? Don't know because they hardly connected emotionally ever. Both are to be blamed. She was okay with Manik manhandling Nandini , letting a girl be ragged by her own bf but she flipped when an accident happened. She was there, Manik didn't cause that accident kiss . So how does Alya reacts, blames Nandini for it rather than talking to her own bf about it and airing out her differences.

Girl send goons to Nandini- never apologized. Allowed Manik to take the blame for it. So yes if Manik crossed a line with her , so did she. Fair enough.

They have had 2-3 closure talks. The fault was of both. Not just Manik, here is the blame on her.

Cabir almost died because of Harshad, yet he forgave him for Alya's sake. And it was organized by Dhruv and Manik. Umm, when did they leave her alone. She herself told Mukti that Manik and she drifted, had a different thing, nobody is to be blamed for .

Keep throwing the other guy under the bus to paint yourself the victim.

It wasn't just Manik between MaNan but Alya brought Nandini too many times. She never wanted her thing with Dhruv to be out in public or in front of fab5 . Becaus eshe thought that would ruin relationship-so how is fab5 blamed for not knowing her thing?

She called out Manik for prioritizing Nandini even when Manik's love almost died coz of Soha. At the hospital.

Dhruv thing - Again Alya is blaming only Dhruv for it when it was her rage against Nandini and Manik that started their break-up and latter's insecurities. Convenient, victim play.


Her depression- Arya , Dhruv , Manik- blame the world but girl has never looked at her own action. Sorry no sympathizes



Dhruv - So nice , till the point Manik was bad, he was fine, letting his friend be the fall guy. But the moment Manik got his glory and shined, Dhruv is PMsing, even though he knows what all manik has done for him. he was ready to let Dhruv to sing at the FC too. So much history , yet the guy things Manik is all about himself.


Sorry, it's very easy to buy their pity party, but funny how they have all used and abused Manik. They want him to leave everything and be with them but they hardly ever been in his low-time. Dhruv-breakdown- all left, Nyo- nobody stays in the room.



If u r calling Alya shallow let me remind you everyone including Manik back then was shallow. The only thing that was true and genuine about them were their feelings for each other as a friend. And about the man handling, Manik was the worst among them in the initial days. He tortured Nandini no less. So y is he pardoned so easily while others are still being judged though they redeemed themselves? Manik was not the same he was before and neither are the rest of them. But Alya did love him and this is what Vibha had told him in one of the scenes. She had even told Manik that she loves him truly unlike her but Manik had shrugged him off. Alya was the not the one to touch his soul but it was Nandini and I wont deny this. But Manik should have at least told her the truth about the break up. Being a friend he owed her that and if not anything, their friendship was supposed to be true. And about Alya flipping out, keep yourself in her place. Your boyfriend is obsessed with a girl and when he accidentally kisses her, you are bound to feel insecure coz ur anyways surrounded by negative thoughts.

True they had a closure but just after that things went downhill for her. She came out of one relationship only to see another mess her life. She shouldn't even call it unfair? 😆

Alya was insecure regarding Nandini. But didn't Manik take his hatred a lil too far focusing on Nandini more? Who was Nandini back then? Just a newbie in their college.

Dhruv's accusations are uncalled for, I agree but what about the fact that Manik barely gave time for his friends? It is true. Its all about Nandini for him. Well everyone is a human and everyone go through their fair share of ups and downs. Just coz Alya is not the female lead, doesn't mean her character ends up becoming a prop.

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