Was It Really Uncalled For?????

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: charminggenie
@FH- Personal opinions aside, did Alya ask Manik , when she started her thing with Dhruv, because she never had a clue about MaNan till that point. Yes Manik erred when he pushed Dhrulya and her lashing is justified there. But saying , he is shitty bf , well guess what she was shitty gf too-

Everyone is interested in all the characters, but not when they spew shit- when will Alya as a character introspect about her own actions. Her role in both the break-ups . When will anyone from fab5 own up their actions.

When was she there for Manik after their break-up? She wanted space as much as he did, girl was busy with Dhruv.

I won't comment on MaNan because that is your perception , but this show and MaNan trolled break-ups. They went through phases and worked on building the emotional tangents which is where Alya erred and never worked. Unlike MaNan , Dhrulya pushed and never worked on their dynamics.

You said it yourself in the first line! Both had erred. SO was it fair for Alya to be made to feel she was the reason the guy she had loved for all those years left her?

Alya should retrospect her own actions but the girl is an emotional mess. How many things can she handle at once? Today I think she targeted her anger more towards Dhruv n maybe the pair of them. Coz Dhruv's insecurity regarding Manik was the reason behind all this mess.

DhruLya are a lot different from MaNan. MaNan at least knew they wanted to be with each other unlike the former who werent sure of their feelings. It was conflicted. Even though circumstances were against MaNan, they were strong enough as individuals whereas Dhruv and Alya are not. So yes I agree with ur point that DhruLya should have spoken up. But Dhruv was the reason y DhruLya suffered more than Alya. Alya did muster the courage to speak up but Dhruv behaved like an A class jerk.

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Medha.S

@Medha.S

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Oh no , he wouldn't have broken up with her if she hadn't made a fool out of him, got his best friend to lie to him and kept her mistake to herself.

While we are at it, how come all the 'at leasts' come for Manik? Yeah he is no saint, he is just as much human and just as much of a teenager as them. Why should he shoulder all their mistakes and burdens?

Aliya and Dhruv could have been 'at least' a f**k out of loads for Manik, too bad they didn't because they were busy falling in love with each other. They both created the first biggest ruckus between Nandini and Manik after which they decided to fall in love with each other, days, f**king days after claiming to be in love with Manik and Nandini respectively.

He is the one who waits around on them to tell him their problems and issues so he can go and do some other stupid shit to hurt himself only because they all are such big family.

Apart from Cabir, I dont remember Manik's friends, his family being there for him when he was having major mental emotional breakdowns. What is Manik? Their father? Why should he keep giving and giving when these ignorant asses keep using and taking advantage of his need and desperation for his family to need him?

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: ishitaa22
Copy pasting what i wrote on some oder post

waise i havent watched d episode yet so m sry if my saying dis will make u guys angry or something...
but u knw maybe dey have gone OTT wid d drama bt aajkal ke tym me aisa hota hai.. i have seen bestest frnds fighting and all..n d thing wid fab 5 is dat dey are each oders family...frm d starting it was manik who used to take care of dem all...and wen things are changing sooo much fr u, u blame d nly person who u think will never leave u...aise hota hai na ki family me bhi wen we get upset widaout any reason or stuff we blame d person who has absolutly no connection to it watesover, cause fr aliya her world is falling apart and she is jst luking fr someone to unload all d responsibility...and she did it wid manik.
n abt d fab 5 fights...to u also might have seen closest of frnds fighting...cause like love is nuthing widaout d pain, aise hi frndship is nuthing widaout d fights...its hw dey come out of it dat matters.
wid our close frnds we are nt afraid to say anything n sometimes we do blame dem fr unnecessary reasons cause subconciously we knw ki wo kahin nahin jane wale. n rahi baat ki dhruv was nt der fr her, mukti was nt der but manik was der fr her...so frndship me its never really abt ki kitni chizon me kinn kinn logon ne sath diya...aisa koi hisab ni hota,...it jst is. dey are like dis nly frm d starting...manik was always d caretaker...n it has always been dose 5 nly frm d start. we frgt dat dey are jst teenagers nly...n in dis phase of our lives..frndship is d most sacred relatioship fr us...n fr a grp like fab 5 wid dat kinda families dere is extra dependence on each oder. so i think d cv's are completly right wid d track dis time!
soo...i think its kinda realistic wat dey are showing...we jst get affected by it cause we cnt see manan separated...and in dis situation it will actually be out of place...so i think ki manik will might lash out on nandini and all cause dat is compatible wid his nature too...jst like aliya unloaded her anger off manik, he does it on nandini...but i dnt think dey will break up!
sry fr dis jumbled u post...do tell me if u got wat i was trying to say!

Yes you are right there. You get angry or disappointed on those whom u depend upon a lot. Manik had always been there for him and suddenly his focus shifted. I understand Nandini deserves his time. In fact when he tells Nandini he will choose his friends over her, I was slightly mad at him coz cmon she is ur girlfriend. U cant just treat her like tat.

I sincerely hope Manik doesn blame Nandini for any of this 😳 She is completely innocent in all this and I would really hate it if Manik did that to her.

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Medha.S
Give her chance for what?
It was a normal breakup? No! It was after she lied to him, kept things from him and got some girl in trouble that lead to the breakup.

And no, if you fall out of love and your interest was only casual an only to keep up pretense and maintain comfort for everyone around them, you don't go around giving second chances.

You want people to force themselves in love with someone? You want to see someone forcing someone else to be in love with them?

Manik and Fab5 have repeatedly bowed down to her wishes and done things the wouldn't do for anyone else, just because she is their friend and she likes to keep repeating how Fab5 is no more,no more,no more everytime a bad situation comes calling.
Harshad was out of jail because she wanted it, even though he deserved to be there after what he did to Cabir and Raghav.
I still haven't seen her feel guilty for sending goons after Nandini.

Moreover if Manik is such a bas***d who didn't give her second chance, wasn't in love with her(well, he wasn't) and she was betrayed and lead on -- how the hell did she fall in for Dhruv in matter of Days? Yes, days.
Not even weeks.

I am not blaming Manik for the break up. He can break up with her if he feels the relationship is not going anywhere or even break up with her bcoz of another reason. My only complaint is that being a friend he owed her the truth. Not an excuse. I am not calling Manik any of those things. Time and again I asserted on just one point. Neither am I saying Alya sending goons was the right thing. But Mank using that on Alya at THAT time was an instance of the pot calling kettle black.

I even mentioned Manik has done many good things but all I am saying is those good deeds cannot become a justification for everything.

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Nadia

@naddiya26

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

beautiful post

Aliya blamed Manik didn't understand her i have started watching KY2 from site as join in late

i much i remember she was the one who use to remind him always about their special days

today when she said because of Nandini it really hurt it surprise me she is same as like Dhruv what is different between them

he is jealous of Manik

and she is jealous of Nandini

as both wanted to be at their places in Manik and Nandini life

Manik has move on as Aliya forced him to

did she not move on with Dhruv ?

Aliya is self centered person she can't digest Manik is happy and smiling she can't see his this side as she tried for 7 years but she could not mange to conquer his heart . which Nandini did in 7 months

after all she has same blood running in her body , she is like her sibling Harshad who never missed a chance to hurt Manik

if she had really loved Manik once she would have hurt him like this ever

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Medha.S
Oh please, it is Manik who is the sacrificial idiot, who kept sacrificing every small and big stuff to keep his friends safe and protected. He kept going over board with his protectiveness, he was told he just overshadowed and wanted to get attention and shit.
Now if he wants to be in love and be happy, he is only allowed to do that till his friends are happy and safe! If they are feeling frustrated, if they feel like hurling accusations and insults, then all bets are off and Nandini is just coming between the great Fab5 friendship?

Aliya and Dhruv are the last people who should be crying about that - I would get Mukti and Cabir because at least they have been real friends to Manik.

Basically Aliya and Dhruv created a mess for themselves, can't handle it so repeatedly, one after the other kept accusing Manik for it all -- because that is all they know how to do.

Everything should be handled by Daddy Manik or they will throw tantrums in hospitals and during sensitive moments and make him the reason of every mistake they make and every decision they take because they are effin' toddlers who don't know how to own up to their own shit.

Dare Daddy Manik give their step-mommy Nandini more attention than them, they will raise hell and abuse the shit out of him.
Yeah, Manik gets emotionally and psychologically abused by people he considers 'family' who throw his insecurities in his face to put a blanket on their own. Great shit.

Manik was wrong about being over protective about his friends but at the same time u dont push them to a corner after u find ur soulmate. He was wrong when he broke Nandini's heart for Dhruv and he is also wrong in forcing Dhruv on Alya without knowing what she wants or help Alya first to come out of her depression. U want ur friend to get his love? Then at least try to know what ur other friend wants. Its not only Manik but all her friends who didn pay Alya attention. I have even said that but if u want my take my words in the direction u wish to see I can do nothing abt it. Manik is not the biggest culprit. I even mentioned Dhruv, Mukti's fault but my statement against Manik is being thrown at me 😆 Well bash the others its perfectly fine but say one word against the lead - war starts.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 10 years ago

#27

@FH- Yes , he broke off about it then., he clarified and took the entire blame on himself twice - V-day while talking to Alya, again in mangalore. Alya had no problems with her reasoning.

At the end he took called out on them drifting apart , which Alya agreed . So where is the shitty bf point? She was a shitty gf too then . Because both lacked communication.

Nobody justified Manik then , boy owned it twice on-screen and Alya agreed to it. She told Mukti too - twice.

So how are we still discussing the end.

Manik broke off coz of trust even with Nandini, while she worked on Manik , where Alya worked with Dhruv to remove Nandini and instead she found love there.

Their break up was a combination of mutual actions- here Manik is judged always by Alya but she as a character never udges herself- thats the growth we want in her, not because she is the side prop argument that you are throwing around.

Did , Alya ever spoke or thought of Manik while sleeping or having a thing with Dhruv- because thats a shitty friend move too. You are shagging with your ex's best mate in secret .

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: BoxedIn
@FH: Since when does a character from another show (which no longer exists, by the way) become an authority on Manik? Or even Alya, for that matter? You're welcome to have your own opinions about Alya and her issues and that is not a debate I want to get into right now, but please do clarify this point.

I am talking about the merger episode and from a story POV it is aligned with KY2. So I dont think I am wrong in mentioning it here.

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anni80

@anni80

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#29

@FH... as per ur own quotes Nandini was still a newbie in SPACE at that time... but Manik and Alya were in relationship for 7 long years... along with that they were besties... so it is presumed ke she was very much aware of the protectiveness and love Manik has for his friends... Even after being in relationship for 7 long years if ur trust and faith on him starts faltering and that too because of one accidental kiss... don't u think its a wakeup call to rethink about the status of their relationship...??

To be recognised as Celeb Couple was her own choice going by the facts that how she used to happily flaunt celebrating some random anniversaries... Manik is not to be blamed for that nor any other member of FAB 5...

It was not mutual break up... Manik broke with her... she never wanted it and thats why even if Manik would have supported or behaved with her as good friend she would have taken it in other stride given her thinking process which was so obsessed for getting Manik back...she would have turned into psycho at that time...

She fuelled Dhruv's half baked emotions for Nandini only to get back Manik coz she thought that if DhruNi happens then she will get her Manik back??? does this really sound like apologetic Friend???

When she was there as a friend for Manik??? She went out bashing Manik for hiding about his relationship with Nandini when the later had almost lost her life... and that too when she was in relationship with Dhruv... Is this what the friend do?

Btw the speed with which Dhrulya came together and drifted apart was more than the speed of rocket...

She was d same person who had atleast 3/4 times said that Manik and she never meant to be... she also assured Manik in M'lore that she is not there to make him feel guilty and btw Manik acknowledged her courage at that time by saying "Thanks for not giving up and hanging in there"...

then why she is accusing Manik again & again...

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

Stunner

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Posted: 10 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Mistakes have happened from both sides and for the last time I AM NOT justifying her deed of sending goons 😆 I just wanted to point out that it was unfair for Manik to use that excuse bas. At least when he knew the real reason he wanted to opt out was coz he felt their relation wasn working. About Fab 5 being there for Manik were they aware of what was happening? 😕 Well I missed that part. So I am asking genuinely.

Alya needs to first calm herself down and for that she needs her space. I made this post coz I saw many comments where Alya was being bashed for speaking up. She is a human. If she has erred so have others. That was what I wanted to point. I presented the other side to the argument.

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