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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: naddiya26
beautiful post
Aliya blamed Manik didn't understand her i have started watching KY2 from site as join in late

i much i remember she was the one who use to remind him always about their special days
today when she said because of Nandini it really hurt it surprise me she is same as like Dhruv what is different between them
he is jealous of Manik
and she is jealous of Nandini

as both wanted to be at their places in Manik and Nandini life

Manik has move on as Aliya forced him to
did she not move on with Dhruv ?

Aliya is self centered person she can't digest Manik is happy and smiling she can't see his this side as she tried for 7 years but she could not mange to conquer his heart . which Nandini did in 7 months

after all she has same blood running in her body , she is like her sibling Harshad who never missed a chance to hurt Manik

if she had really loved Manik once she would have hurt him like this ever

Alya has to vent out her anger in some form. This isn't just about Manik. I even mentioned Dhruv and Mukti but everyone conveniently chose to overlook that part 😆 Well not surprised. I am not saying Manik should not move on Nandini. He was destined to be with her, so he did. I just wish he had not made an excuse bas. Alya loved Manik and try loving a person for 7 years. And maybe ur relation wasn meant to last, so it broke. Does it mean there will be no pain? Her health was deteriorating right before their eyes but did anyone notice it? That there was something unusual about her? Please dont compare her to Harshad. If that were the case she would have supported her brother instead when he broke Mukti's heart. She hurt Manik only once and today she was more mad at Dhruv.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 10 years ago

#32

@FH- Please, everyone is bashed here. Alya is no exception. Her pity party is on loop for 6 months, same shit again and again- very like Mukti , this is why people are not relating to her because she went 10 steps back in all the character progression.

When Nandini was in hospital, Alya lashed out on Manik for saving her and letting their deal go, which she never cared about- you missed it , I think. Nice friendship, there , right.

Alya chose to keep her issues from Manik, so why throw him under the bus.

Manik wasn't wrong when he called off their thing for goon episode-it was a moral low for him. He was accused of something that he never did, why would you be with some a person, kinda like Soha right- who would harm Nandini, to be with Manik. He didn't morally feel fit to be with her. yes they have more issues too, but that did became the focal point.

If Manik never shared Nandini with them, then he handled it on his own , unlike others who blame him for their relationship problems.

Alya is bring criticized because her character went 10 paces back , her character got screwed in a loop. Funny how a pity card sells everytime.

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: anni80
@FH... as per ur own quotes Nandini was still a newbie in SPACE at that time... but Manik and Alya were in relationship for 7 long years... along with that they were besties... so it is presumed ke she was very much aware of the protectiveness and love Manik has for his friends... Even after being in relationship for 7 long years if ur trust and faith on him starts faltering and that too because of one accidental kiss... don't u think its a wakeup call to rethink about the status of their relationship...??
To be recognised as Celeb Couple was her own choice going by the facts that how she used to happily flaunt celebrating some random anniversaries... Manik is not to be blamed for that nor any other member of FAB 5...

It was not mutual break up... Manik broke with her... she never wanted it and thats why even if Manik would have supported or behaved with her as good friend she would have taken it in other stride given her thinking process which was so obsessed for getting Manik back...she would have turned into psycho at that time...

She fuelled Dhruv's half baked emotions for Nandini only to get back Manik coz she thought that if DhruNi happens then she will get her Manik back??? does this really sound like apologetic Friend???

When she was there as a friend for Manik??? She went out bashing Manik for hiding about his relationship with Nandini when the later had almost lost her life... and that too when she was in relationship with Dhruv... Is this what the friend do?

Btw the speed with which Dhrulya came together and drifted apart was more than the speed of rocket...

She was d same person who had atleast 3/4 times said that Manik and she never meant to be... she also assured Manik in M'lore that she is not there to make him feel guilty and btw Manik acknowledged her courage at that time by saying "Thanks for not giving up and hanging in there"...

then why she is accusing Manik again & again...

Even before the kiss thing happened Manik used to fuss over Nandini and Alya wasn ever perfect. She had her flaws and probably she could sense Manik wasn too serious abt her. So she was bound to be insecure. She probably doesn begrudge Manik his happiness and she acknowledged that too but when everything is so messed up, she is bound to get mad at him. Even today she told him she isn mad at him for moving on but she is for his ignorance towards her. That girl loved Manik for a long time and if he is drifting away is it easy for her to see? She made an effort to get back. DhruLya were complicated from the word GO but I would say if they failed in the end it was coz of Dhruv coz Alya had tried to mend it from her end. The only time Manik was wrong was when he broke up with that excuse. It looked like he wanted to get her off his back. It was insensitive on her part to blame Manik then but Manik shdn have hid the truth either that Soha was being a psycho. Their album is not more important than Nandini's life. But it was their dream too. Didn Manik owe them the truth or an explanation? Had they known all of this from the start and later blamed Manik I would say they were selfish jerks myself.

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Mandy

@BeyondHorizon

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Posted: 10 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: charminggenie
@FH- Please, everyone is bashed here. Alya is no exception. Her pity party is on loop for 6 months, same shit again and again- very like Mukti , this is why people are not relating to her because she went 10 steps back in all the character progression.
When Nandini was in hospital, Alya lashed out on Manik for saving her and letting their deal go, which she never cared about- you missed it , I think. Nice friendship, there , right.

Alya chose to keep her issues from Manik, so why throw him under the bus.

Manik wasn't wrong when he called off their thing for goon episode-it was a moral low for him. He was accused of something that he never did, why would you be with some a person, kinda like Soha right- who would harm Nandini, to be with Manik. He didn't morally feel fit to be with her. yes they have more issues too, but that did became the focal point.

If Manik never shared Nandini with them, then he handled it on his own , unlike others who blame him for their relationship problems.

Alya is bring criticized because her character went 10 paces back , her character got screwed in a loop. Funny how a pity card sells everytime.

Every character is different. Mukti and Alya are certainly not strong characters like Manik or Nandini. They have their flaws - they are vulnerable. I am not blaming Manik alone if u saw the topic. I have even blamed Dhruv and Mukti. In the end I mentioned Fab 5 as a whole n I didn single out Manik. He had every right to admonish Alya for what she did. But I only wish he hadn used that as an excuse for break up. He had budding feelings for Nandini and true he couldn have admitted to them then. But the real reason was he wasn into the relationship. He wanted to scold her for what she did? Fine but tht shd not have been the break up line. I am not saying this to highlight Manik as a sinner or anything like that. I said this to show how it could have hurt her back then. And its not easy to see ur bf of 7 yrs move on like that while ur still hanging around. She is human after all. Even this is not Manik's fault. But when so many things are messed up already, was it so uncalled for her to vent out?

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SunoNa123

@SunoNa123

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Posted: 10 years ago

#35

Not watching the show from quiet sometime, happened to visit here today to find MM's post and this post and few things said here caught my attention and i did read today's WU .

I always wonder why does Alya get a free pass for the goon incident and the following break up that happened with Manik. Did not Alya harm Manik as much as she did to nandini in that incident?
She let her bf of 7 yrs, a friend she had known from long carry the tag of criminal, someone who sent goons to take away Nandini, she let Manik carry that blame , she was fine seeing two close friends fight and Dhruv beating Manik , she was fine seeing ManRuv fight and Dhruv blaming and holding Manik responsible for the goon incident , not once did she OWN up to her mistake while the two close friends fought, not once she owned upto her mistake when Manik was blamed wrongly and held responsible for when he had no clue about that incident. Until Manik thought it was an act from Harshad and went on to charge at him she had her mouth shut and watched her bf be wrongly blamed, accused of a horrible crime that he did not do.
Just thinking what if Nandini was took away that day from goons, did Nandini or Manik deserve that, all for what? Her BLOODY insecurity?
If a gf is insecure, why not have a direct talk with bf and tell him hat's bothering her?

Despite all these Manik was supposed to give her a leeway and not break upor this is not a good enough reason to break up? . Manik took her a friend despite all these, Nandini still is warm to her despite all these, though UNTIL this very epi she has not apologised to either Manik nor Nandini of her shameful act, not once does she introspect on where she went wrong.

One need's to realize their own mistakes, introspect and grow as individual's . Manik , Cabir, Nandini have done that enough times, that is why their character's are appreciated coz the growth is seen. I cannot say the same about Alya, all she had done is blame Manik, blame Nandini, blame Dhruv whenever she had her lows. Also, whenever her demands be not fulfilled the easiest thing she mouths is fab5 is no more, so until her whims and fancies are satisfied fab5 are the best and she goes about preaching Dhruv on how much Manik has done to them and how he has been there for them always, whilst when it comes to her problems where in she herself needs to introspect and grow as an individual Mani has done nothing for us, he has drifted apart, he spends more time with Nandini and blah. She hit such a low blow today , and it undid all her growth for me !

Alya needs to first realize her mistakes, she hasnt been saint in any of the issues, including her break up with Dhruv, she fuelled his insecurities too.
Also, she needs to introspect how many times has she been there for Manik that she goes about accusing him about his priority list, her own damned criminal of a brother wouldn be out of jail had it not been for Manik, Cabir/Mukti more or less agreed to bail out Harshad coz of Manik while Manik could have got his hand amputated coz of her bro and Cabir was attacked so bloody badly.
She needs to stop expecting from others and first learn to work on her self and become a better person.

edit: typos.

Edited by -sylph- - 10 years ago

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 10 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: FieryHeart

Every character is different. Mukti and Alya are certainly not strong characters like Manik or Nandini.
Wait why is Nandini and Manik considered strong- they are super vulnerable, they have saviour complex and selfless too the fault. Manik's anger is his weakness and Nandini's navity about the dark. So why are they bashed for being true to themselves?

They have their flaws - they are vulnerable. I am not blaming Manik alone if u saw the topic. I have even blamed Dhruv and Mukti.
Well Dhruv's problems started because of Alya, she undermined his insecuyrities , brought in Nandini too. Mukti went after alya so many times- heck they talked about it, yet Alya didn't reach out. If the person doesn't want to heal then what should others do. When does the mothering stops.

In the end I mentioned Fab 5 as a whole n I didn single out Manik. He had every right to admonish Alya for what she did.

But I only wish he hadn used that as an excuse for break up. He had budding feelings for Nandini and true he couldn have admitted to them then.
We as a viewer saw his feelings, but he had no clue about it- he was justified in his take of MaNan then. He thought he was just settling scores with Nandini- others saw it differently, but boy never thought about their pull . So why would he think aobut Nandini to break up. His gf used goons on another girl- we call that crime.

But the real reason was he wasn into the relationship.
They both were not into it, Just because Alya liked party planning doesnt mean anythng, she herself confessed that they drifted apart- herself, a fact she realized later- just like Manik.

He wanted to scold her for what she did? Fine but tht shd not have been the break up line. I am not saying this to highlight Manik as a sinner or anything like that.
It's not about Manik at all , why does breaking up becomes a sin- he didn't like the goon thing , his line was crossed . done.
I said this to show how it could have hurt her back then.
"Could" just like Nandini could have been hurt back then.

And its not easy to see ur bf of 7 yrs move on like that while ur still hanging around.
She moved on with Dhruv , infact she was happier , found real love there. according to her own self. So she wasn't really hanging on to something.

She is human after all. Even this is not Manik's fault. But when so many things are messed up already, was it so uncalled for her to vent out?
Her friends Mukti, Cabir everyone approached her a lot of times- she never opened up at all. Infact to Mukti she said , Manik and her are at a nice place- so now she contradicts herself and basically in her venting , threw Manik under the bus- " by telling him that he is not allowed to have a private personal life because it messed with fab5" ..she did the same with Dhruv too.Infact Harshad as well.

If you would go beyond Manik and focus on Alya, you would notice that it's a broken record set at a place where she always makes mistakes and never introspects- thats her problem and thats why people bash her ,because every character including Mukti has apologized at some point for their action. But never Alya.

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anni80

@anni80

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Posted: 10 years ago

#37

when u say that she somewhere down the line knew that they are drifting apart... what would a GF do to save her relationship... will she doubt him more or will she try to keep faith in "them"... if she was truly in love with Manik then why she let all to accuse Manik... why did she not come in between when dhruv punched him???

Alya would have been at her BEST and CORRECT if she would have accused Manik for trying to patch up between her & Dhruv without even asking for her feelings... he has no right to do patch up just going by Dhruv's apology... her character would be at high then coz she would have been fighting for her self respect ... but she chose to accuse him for the thing which was not even logical...

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Sanjana malhotra

@MissRight

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Posted: 10 years ago

#38

I can see where you're coming from and I do agree that she needed to get this out of her system! This is definitely a testing phase for Fab 5 and no doubt they'll be back... they just need a little breather..

But I also think that Manik, Mukti and Dhruv already do have their priorities straight... It's just that they've changed a little bit, which IS fair. I mean if I had a group of friends like Fab 5, and I fell in love with someone out of the group, that person would also hold the same importance as my friends do.. Just that the way I structure my time WOULD obz change cause now I have another person to accomodate... without them imposing on my time with my friends! I mean I'm pretty sure none of 'em would be happy with beloved Nandini tagging on to Fab 5 every minute like velcro! 😉

Though I do think saying that Manik kept fab 5 second to Nandz was uncalled for! Aliya blamed Manik for not being there for her even as a friend after their break-up... think about it, Manik and Aliya were in a relationship for 7 years... it's not a short time. When they broke up, had Manik gone back to being close friends, same as they were before the relationship, do u think Aliya would have moved on from him? infact, my personal opinion but I think Aliya wouldn't even have tried to move on...!

With Mukti, I think Ali is over-reacting.. I know what with choosing between her brother and friends and stuff but She must realise that Mukti was depressed for 2 years and then moved on after meeting Abhi who left a HUGE impact on her life... does Al think Mukti will forgive and cosy back up to Harshad after everything she went through AFTER Abhi? If then then either Aliya doesn't know Mukti well enough (which we all know isn't true) or she doesn't trust her...! Sometimes, you just have to blindly trust a friend and not automatically assume the worst based on what u see...

As KD Pathak always says... "Jo dikhta hai vo hota nahi... aur jo hota hai vo dikhta nahi!"😆

Also, when the kissa with Dhruv and Manik happened, she said he wasn't thinking straight and all that stuff... but now she's doing the exact same thing! Hello! Blaming Manik and Dhruv like he did to Manik and Aliya back before #itsnotusitsyou... She's repeating the whole thing all over again! (these two premis na! Like, seriously?!)

I know Alya is depressed and all and not thinking straight but sometimes, you just have to take a minute and stop! and taking a minute doesn't mean leaving Fab 5! :(

But I have full faith.. they'll be back! After all... Yaaron... Dosti... Badi hi haseen hai.. and this dosti to definitely is!

Bas it's just sad that it had to happen on Friendship's day! Manik will be heartbroken tomorrow :'(

PS: just realised! Friendship day is the first SUNDAY of August... YE SAB SPACE MEIN KYA KAR RAHE THE?!!!! 🤣

Edited by LivingforAR - 10 years ago

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LovesToBeLoved

@LovesToBeLoved

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Posted: 10 years ago

#39

First thing, what makes u think Manik was aware of his feelings for Nandini when he broke up with Alya?? Yes, Manik was obsessed with Nandini, but he thought its all hatred and he was just getting back at her.. Whatever he felt for Nandini, was completely new to him and even after he broke up with Alya, he did try to stay away from Nandini.. So how can u expect him to come clean abt it when he himself is unaware?

When he broke up with Alya, he was really upset about what she did and that was the sole reason for their break-up.

About giving second chance,, Yes he might have done that if he was really in love with Alya.. but clearly he wasn't.. so he didn't and tried to work on his new found feelings for Nandini.

And about Alya feeling bad, She was responsible for their break up at that point.. Maybe they were drifting apart, but that realization came later and that was not the main reason for their break-up I believe. That might be the reason for them not getting back together again. As a viewer, u might have seen Manik's feelings for Nandini and think that is the reason why he broke up, but as I said Manik was unaware of his feelings back then.. So the question of being honest with her doesn't really exist for me.

Was it unfair to Alya, may be a little because Love or not she still wanted to be with Manik.. but that doesn't mean Manik has to be blamed for it.. And Alya's ways of handling things were completely wrong. So I can empathyse with her only when she realises her mistakes.. Sorry..

If Manik wasn't considerate about what Alya wanted while breaking up, then what about Alya?? Was she considerate about what Manik wanted?? She manipulated one of her friends and was ready to throw herself on Manik again.. by hook or crook. So this makes her nothing more than a self-centered obsessed girl, who ll go to any lengths to get what she wants.. Something similar to Soha..

Being there for Alya as a friend- How m I supposed to sympathize with her when she expects other ppl to do all those things which she has never done. Was she there for him as a friend?? No she was busy making out with Dhruv, enjoying her rebound and what not..

If one can say she wasn't there for Manik because she didn't know about his problems then same goes with Manik too.. He wasn't aware of what Alya was going through.. Whenever Manik sensed that his friends needed them he was always there.. ALWAYS. He put Nandini's life in danger by making a deal with Mr.Khurana because he knew album deal was important for his friends.. And what he gets in return???? Accusations, Accusations and accusations..

Yes, Manik was no saint back then.. he isn't one now also.. But he has been loyal to his friends and did all that he could to protect them.. So can these people for once look beyond themselves and let him be happy??

I don't buy the excuse she is a mess now.. because she has always been this selfish even when she wasn't a mess..

For whatever happened with DhruLya she was equally responsible..

-She was the one who fueled Dhruv's insecurities both knowingly and unknowingly..

-Yes, Dhruv did hurt her and ruined her self-respect, but she was at fault too and instead of introspecting for once, she is busy playing blame games.. I would have bought this if this whole lash out was about her self-respect.. But no she had to show her insecurities towards Nandini and make Manik guilt trip..

Yes, I think she is still insecure about Nandini even though she claims otherwise..

What's with Manik being busy with Nandini and Alya having complaints about it??? Didn't she say "I wanted to steal u for myself and wanted to be alone with u" back then.. If she had accepted MaNan then from where this concept of him prioritising Nandini over Fab5 comes from?? whaen clearly as a girl she wanted it for herself..Double standards huh???

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oyshee

@..oishu..

Sparkler

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Posted: 10 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: charminggenie
Alya- They drifted apart,visible in day 1. She called her thing with Manik- "celeb thing". Yes she was obsessed with her perfect life with Manik, was it love? Don't know because they hardly connected emotionally ever. Both are to be blamed. She was okay with Manik manhandling Nandini , letting a girl be ragged by her own bf but she flipped when an accident happened. She was there, Manik didn't cause that accident kiss . So how does Alya reacts, blames Nandini for it rather than talking to her own bf about it and airing out her differences.
Girl send goons to Nandini- never apologized. Allowed Manik to take the blame for it. So yes if Manik crossed a line with her , so did she. Fair enough.

They have had 2-3 closure talks. The fault was of both. Not just Manik, here is the blame on her.

Cabir almost died because of Harshad, yet he forgave him for Alya's sake. And it was organized by Dhruv and Manik. Umm, when did they leave her alone. She herself told Mukti that Manik and she drifted, had a different thing, nobody is to be blamed for .

Keep throwing the other guy under the bus to paint yourself the victim.

It wasn't just Manik between Dhruv-Alya but Alya brought Nandini too many times. She never wanted her thing with Dhruv to be out in public or in front of fab5 . Because she thought that would ruin relationship-so how is fab5 blamed for not knowing her thing?

She called out Manik for prioritizing Nandini even when Manik's love almost died coz of Soha. At the hospital.

Dhruv thing - Again Alya is blaming only Dhruv for it when it was her rage against Nandini and Manik that started their break-up and latter's insecurities. Convenient, victim play.

Her depression- Arya , Dhruv , Manik- blame the world but girl has never looked at her own action. Sorry no sympathizes

Dhruv - So nice , till the point Manik was bad, he was fine, letting his friend be the fall guy. But the moment Manik got his glory and shined, Dhruv is PMsing, even though he knows what all manik has done for him. he was ready to let Dhruv to sing at the FC too. So much history , yet the guy things Manik is all about himself.

Sorry, it's very easy to buy their pity party, but funny how they have all used and abused Manik. They want him to leave everything and be with them but they hardly ever been in his low-time. Dhruv-breakdown- all left, Nyo- nobody stays in the room.

i totally and completely agree with all of this!

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