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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Thanks, Nitya :-)

Yes, Manik and Nandu both don't really understand the meaning and depth of love...the various facets to it beyond the fairytale or idealistic hues that they had in mind.

Manik said that? To whom and in what epi? I don't recall watching this scene...maybe I missed it...

See right now neither Manik or Nandu are dwelling on their own gyaan regarding love that they've passed along to other ppl😆...they are both reeling in shock and pain over what's happened...with time, these things will manifest themselves.

To put it simply, Manik chose friendship over love...it was a hard choice either ways...someone had to be hurt in the process.


yes manik said that..that too very assertively as he knows everything about LOVE 😆

i will try to see which epi was it n let u know..

hmm yea manik chose friendship over love..coz he does not understand love yet
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Hey thanks😊...you were an NBT fan too? Nice!

Yes..Till Mohan's 1st marriage debacle..😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: AreYaar



Areyy you know me from LTL forum? And you already know me but I can't seem to recall where we met...did you change your username by any chance? ...LTL days were one of a kind😆

Arey why be intimidated? You've write so well yourself :-)

@blue: Very interesting point there...Manik revels in and hides behind his "bad guy" persona...but has he ever directly stated that he feels he doesn't deserve Nandini? Maybe I missed an epi somewhere :S...I thought he let go of Nandu for Dhruv simply cuz he is that protective of Dhruv and can't see him shattering if he doesn't get Nandu...

But you're saying he genuinely has that inferiority complex? That he isn't deserving of an extremely good-hearted Nandu? And Dhruv being this guy who's always been nice to Nandu deserves her more?

Ofcourse all that he's shattered, he'll have to grovel to build again...

Nandu's disbelief should have been elaborated on more...a little more denial before she broke down...but they moved quickly there and the Monster Manik persona won as usual.

Manik has relied on the strength of his will a lot...he thinks if he WILLS himself to stay away from Nandini, wills himself to make her hate him, he will be able to do it...but he will realize that he is helpless cuz this is a matter of the heart, not mind.



Yes, I know you from LTL days, those episode discussion threads. I was known as Bushy, doubt you remember. 😆


He didn't say that actually, but he's always been a monster to her, she always called him a monster, and maybe that triggered him. Maybe that somewhere makes him feel that he's undeserving, coz she's good, and Dhruv is good too.
And also like you said, he's very protective of Dhruv, but initially when Dhruv was getting attached to Nandini, he didn't like it. He even told her that he disliked their friendship. He could have asked Dhruv to stay away from her if he was protective, but he asked her instead. This makes me feel that he thinks he has come in between. Had he controlled his feelings, then this mess wouldn't have been there in the first place, she would have easily been with Dhruv.


After watching today's episode, I think he'll realise sooner than expected, that he did a mistake. He had to tell Dhruv to console her, to make sure she was okay. And yet, he wasn't okay with them spending time together. He was restless when he saw them together. And already questions about his timing, ke he should have waited until her performance was over.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
Hmm I do think they both still trust each other. Manik had enough trust in her to know that if he stepped back, she will pull him towards her. He trusted her enough to know that she will always be with him. Yet it was because of his this trust that he had to be somebody else- his monster self and cover the real Manik to break up with her. When he said "rok lo mujhe" , that was the only slip in his facade .
Nandu too believes the real Manik , she still does. As today during the shadow scene - she called out his name, she is familiar with his essence and presence. It is her trust that she channeled her anger at him and confronted him. Even in her anguish she trusted his comfort and reached out to him today. What she didn't and still doesn't understand is his mask- Monster Manik, it pricked her self-respect. She detested this fake Manik and doesn't trust him.

Manik made a choice not because he doesn't have faith or trust in his true love but because according to him his promise of years and duty of protecting Dhruv supersedes everything as of now. Nandu too still trusts Manik , as evident by her strong emotions for him even after all this. But she just doesn't care or know the masked Manik.

The trust was between the Nandu and real/normal Manik. But at that point there was no Manik just an evil Monster.

What they both lack especially Manik is trust in himself. He just doesn't trust himself to be worthy of her love especially when it means stripping away the joys of someone he has been protecting.

Even in hate they trust each other, they always have.

But this break was needed because they both need to grow up, without this Manik won't have understood his unhealthy relationship with Dhruv or his flaw of always sacrificing himself for his friends. Nandu too needs to trust herself and not look at fireflies or the metaphors to be sure of her feelings.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
@nur
that scene was in episode 64..right when Cabir talks to Manik that he should not always take on Raghav
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: nneeiill


yes manik said that..that too very assertively as he knows everything about LOVE 😆

i will try to see which epi was it n let u know..

hmm yea manik chose friendship over love..coz he does not understand love yet


Hi Nur😃Awesome post as usual.I am so happy to see you here.

Thank you Saamya for giving me the link to this thread😃

I have nothing much to add after going through all the comments.I just enjoyed reading all of them.
I remember the scene.Manik says this particular dialogue to Cabir when they are talking about his break up with Raghav.Manik is trying to make Cabir understand that what Raghav did was not right and this is not love because "pyaar mein koi kisi ko incomplete nahi chod sakta..."😆
Giving gyaan is so easy😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
#47
good to see u here mini...and yes giving gyaan is always easy 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good to see you here. I used to be regular reader of your posts when you were regular in MB forum and so was I. good to see your post and so aptly writen as always. they have a long way to go. this is just the start of their relationship.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49
It has been a day. One day.
Had their relation lasted a tad bit longer, I doubt she would have believed him as easily. This almost seemed like 'won the race, moving on' to her, as like she said, she IS new to all this. She can't be blamed.
Manik, on the other hand-that poor thing faces a dilemma, and puts on the only facade he has donned since eternity. The only way he knew he could shatter the fresh promises they made only a few hours ago. It is foolish, but again, he can't be blamed. This is the only way that he knows.
Let time be the judge. Because for two souls so destined, there is a long way to go.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: Sanely_Insane



Yes, I know you from LTL days, those episode discussion threads. I was known as Bushy, doubt you remember. 😆


He didn't say that actually, but he's always been a monster to her, she always called him a monster, and maybe that triggered him. Maybe that somewhere makes him feel that he's undeserving, coz she's good, and Dhruv is good too.
And also like you said, he's very protective of Dhruv, but initially when Dhruv was getting attached to Nandini, he didn't like it. He even told her that he disliked their friendship. He could have asked Dhruv to stay away from her if he was protective, but he asked her instead. This makes me feel that he thinks he has come in between. Had he controlled his feelings, then this mess wouldn't have been there in the first place, she would have easily been with Dhruv.


After watching today's episode, I think he'll realise sooner than expected, that he did a mistake. He had to tell Dhruv to console her, to make sure she was okay. And yet, he wasn't okay with them spending time together. He was restless when he saw them together. And already questions about his timing, ke he should have waited until her performance was over.


Is Bushy short for Bushra? I think I do remember you then from the EDT...

Ok so he didn't say it directly but yeah you're right there is a bit of that sense...Manik is kind of resigned to his bad buy image...he sees good in his friends but isn't comfortable with good being pointed out in HIM...like the time he wasn't comfortable with the appreciation for saving Nandu's life...being called rude, mean, unreasonable...these are generally comfortable labels for him cuz he can hide his vulnerable self behind them.

He treats Dhruv like a baby brother so yeah it's possible that he did feel like he came b/w Dhruv and Nandu...but along with this there is that fiercely possessive streak in him regarding Nandu too...these noble intentions of his won't last long😆...He may consider himself the bad guy but good or bad, he feels that Nandu belongs to him...that feeling has taken hold too deep for it to be willed away now in this attempt at sacrifice.


I haven't watched today's epi yet so can't really reply to that...will get back to you on that after watching the epi.

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