Emotions versus Practicality!-DT NOTE Pg 15 - Page 5

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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
Nice post and in this case i want jalal to consider this matter with someone else like todarmal,atgah and after that he will take wise decision and then act on his own will. In some cases jalal takes right decision at first.By hearing overdose of brainwashing advices from his khas begums or from ma he ends up in making wrong decision at last.😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shweta16


so everything revolves around Jodha and the Great Vachan , Anyhow Jodha Madam's vachan is going to be broken (not by her but due to circumstances) when Shehnaz's truth is out ! But still keeping an eye on Shehnaz is not going to be done as Jalal by now is convinced by Salima that Shehnaz did not do anything intentionally. True, Jodha is his weakness but not everything she does and says is right. Jalal always takes positives and ignores the negativity like he does with MA and Ruq, he could have done similar in this case too. Problem is every one of them was discussing how innocent/evil/mentally challenged Shehnaz is but none gave a thought about Rahim and his safety! Initially Jalal did think about him only but later he got convinced. We can't always expect logic from any show but this show is missing simple points and making me 😡 😆. If Jalal always plays it safe because his relation with Jodha is not yet blossomed fully then its always going to be same like this ! that means illogical tracks 😉.


If it was old Jalal, he would've simply packed off Shehnaaz first and just informed Jodha...but since it is not so, and he knows Shehnaaz is with Jodha...he's holding a meeting, and all his Begums know, who'll be in the eye of storm, so all three brace up in their own possible way...but I know nothing logical is gonna happen...still I hope that after this incidence Jodha ask Moti or Moti takes an initiative to be closer, around or keep an eye on Shenu baby...
But vachan can't be and won't be broken...after all Jodha gave vachan to be with Shehnaaz in this life and not in later's afterlife 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
the question is not about which Begum is right...they all r right in their own stands..Jodha confided in Shehnaz when she was broken..so she has the emotional connection with her..so its obviously difficult for her to let go of Shehnaz knowing Shehnaz has mental issues...Salima on the other side was also right..Shehnaz and Rahim has difference in physical age but they have same mental age..she is no grown up than Rahim..aise hadse kisise bhi hosakte the.

though Ruqu wanted to take the advantage of situation and tried to create a rift between JJ using the opportunity but whatever she said was right..her intention was wrong but advice was good..Shehnaz should not be kept..I liked when Jalal said in reply to Salima "toh kya uss waqt ka intezaar kare?" when Salima told him nothing bad has happened.

Jalal is the Shehenshah..I know he is emotional..he forgives people very easily..but he must look into bigger picture..he should have sent Shehnaz to some ashram.

see we know Shehnaz is a vamp...they dont know...they know she is mad..and a mad person is more dangerous to keep.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Mandy, honestly no one behaved practically here except for Jalal himself, but the same was put down by SB with her emotional discussions about Jodha and Shehnaz.

Even though Ruq's suggestion was practical, she did not give it with that intention, if she had thought about Rahim and given that suggestion, then yes I agree she was right, her suggestion was right, but her motive behind the suggestions were not. Except for Jalal, who thought as a father and thinking about Shehnaz's mistake, no one else thought that way.
If a kid had fallen by accident from a sane person, they can advise that person to be careful in future, how can you expect the same suggestion to be given to an insane and expect things can be right in future?



agree👍🏼..jalak tool the rt decision initially!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skandi

I really did not like yesterday's situation...Jodha has lost her mind how can she support that pagal acting woman in this critical situation, and on that she is not ready to send her to treatment...what the hell wrong with this woman...I am waiting for the day when she comes to know that shenaz has come to kill her husband, what she will do then and where her bashans will go...enough of this hell situation which is showing both jalllu and jodha in weak position, one is blind by love and another one is blind by the mode that she is right in everything she do......she knows that shenaz is mentally stable then why she is not letting her to have treatment which type of love is this for her friend ????...I think this CV people have left thinking logically about situation...even the king who control the whole kingdom is unable to make her understand what is wrong and right but another way around he said sorry and made that pagal to stay back...😲



i agree its the natkiye rupantar sans logic!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Well I am too irked by all the three begums 😡😡😡

But coming to Shehanshaah...I think Jalal can allow Shehnaaz to remain in the palace but given mental state can arrange for her treatment and involve a secret agent, exclusively, to always keep an eye on her, so that nothing untoward happens again...
P.S. No one knows about Shehnaaz's truth.



yes, only a king can take the right decision in this situation, ruk's advice was correct but it was politically motivated!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: mishtidoi


The question here is not about justice or injustice...Jalal is doing, what he can do best in this situation, without irking Jodha...its not about him being partial...its about Her and their relationship being still in vulnerable state...I feel nothing wrong if Jalal listens to one whom he LOVES...when a seed is planted, the sapling is cared for and protected for more...its quite natural...and we must not forget the GREAT VACHAN...which Jodha gave to Shehnaaz to always remain with her, though Jalal may not know this but Jodha then will surely go with Shehnaaz to Mathura...Jodha is one from where he draws his strength, but when it comes to her, she's his weakness...THEY BOTH HAVE LONG WAY TO BECOME EACH OTHER'S STRENGTH...the sapling is yet to become a tree, which will give them soothing shade.

We've to think from what is shown in JA, we will need a wall to bang our head, if we use too much logic 🥱



your thoughts in red👏..i second u on that, there is a long way to go before they become each other's strength!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony

Well im not satisfied with any of his begums. Evryone were trying to establish their own point but noone understood the real situation. Rahim calls all of them "ammijaan" nd loves all of them. Similarly all of them love rahim. But I was highly disappointed when noone reacted as a mother. Ruku's agrument was right but she wanted to take advantage of the situation at least in rahim's case she should have kept her intentions aside. I agree salima was trying to be a peace maker but instead of talking to jalal she should have gone to jodha nd explained why jalal reacted like this. Besides I didn't liked the argument tht shehnaaz is a kid but though she is a kid mentally physically she is an adult so this thing cant be taken so lightly. Coming to jodha I agree shehnaaz was her emotional support in mathura but still shehnaaz is her responsibility. Nd her dialogue "baccho k sath to aisa hota rehta hain" was really silly. If shehnaaz is a kid then also parents should scold the kid to make them realize tht they r wrong. For me only jalal stood out who was only thinking about rahim. Nd also his stand to send shehnaaz to mathura was right. Practically she needs treatment.



munni. no doubt that jalal initially took the rt decision which was supported by ruk if we leave her evil intentions aside for jodha, but then salima brian washed him the other way round and jodha's argument did not make any sense to me!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: chembi

Nice post and in this case i want jalal to consider this matter with someone else like todarmal,atgah and after that he will take wise decision and then act on his own will. In some cases jalal takes right decision at first.By hearing overdose of brainwashing advices from his khas begums or from ma he ends up in making wrong decision at last.😕



i think he should stop taking advices from khaas begums, and move towards his 9 gems for more practical advices😉!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50
only question that came into my mind whta is the guarantee that shehnaaz will not push rahim again???🤢

no one took the required step🥱


this track went into garbage in the same way as sujamal track


no one is bothered to know who wants to kill jalal in the mehal

infact i think sharrifu too has short term memory loss now

cvs have made kichdi of natya rupantar😡

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