Emotions versus Practicality!-DT NOTE Pg 15 - Page 2

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Mandy,
Valid points. But, it was difficult to decide yesterday.

And, even a REAL Shahenshah can be emotional. Akbar also forgave Sharifuddin 4 times in 20 years. He also forgave Munim Khan, despite his hand in killing Jalal's OWN ATALIK - Atga Khan.!!!!...

Infact, there are many such instances. Where such confusions of practicality vs emotionality arise and I am just mentioning at times certain decisions were taken which were not considered practical. :)

i agree abhay he had pardoned many of his nears and dears because it becomes difficult to decide at times which path to follow, just like arjun and krishna in mahabharat where krishna gives lecture to arjun to do his karma and not worry about the result because that is not in his hand and right now he should fight for his rights and fight against the evil, even though he would hurt his own people in doing so...similar is the scenario here..jalal should do what is right and not worry too much about who is going to get hurt because he is the father of all he has way bigger responsibility than jodha has and jodha herself is his responsibility..just like parents take decision for their kids when they do not know if they are right, momentarily it might hurt them but at the end it will be beneficial for them!

Originally posted by: smile.sara

begum # 1 ... I strongly believe...rukayya character has so layered ..one positivness from her side and all sympathies of ladies audience go there ... why ?? .bec she is not any other woman .or x girl friend of hero like in every other daily soap where after hero heroin wedding his x love interest lost her all rights bec legally and ethically she has no relation with the hero

here it is different..

.she is emperor first queen ... still has all the rights... so to give benefit of innocence and purity to their heroin , they add this benefit of not good intension in ruqayya wise advice... so silly of CV... no mattr what, yesterday her worry for Rahim was geniun ...but when she saw tht idiot shahnaz drama and Rahim was save in jalal arms...they made her to let use situation but truth is ...her eah and every word was absolutely right ..her each and every argument had weight ... 👏

now salima... who is really Rahim mother... Rahim is her responsibility ...maan liya ...ruku is dumbest in agra but I m amazed ... people who already hate ruku are saying ...she falll from their eyes completely 😆...she doesn't care Rahim not jalal...from where jalal came here ?...and does salima has care of Rahim...??

strange...and since when ruku was up in these people eyes 😕

salima all arguments were so ajeeb

first jodha begum ki friend ...kamal hae bhai

second ..she is like child... can I dare to ask Q to jodha begum bhakht ... this Q was actually asked by mother of Rahim to shahnha in favor of girl who pushed her son...if this wil happen with Rahim u ill forgive him Shahansha bec of his age??..now give me a break ...if some one come to my house push my son from upper floor how can I feel same for my son n tht mentally ill lady ...

so my Q is if Rahim by mistake wll push shahnaz ...does really his mother think of him he will be clapping and laughing like maniac in tht situation... I mean salima should say this in argument I, f some one dare to give this in favor of shahnaz infront of her ...kia aap mere bache ko itna pagal samajhti hain k kisi ko dhakka de kr woh khushi se taliya bajaeyga

and here salima begum her self giving this argument

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tell me mandy u r mother

I m mother

tell me each n every mother here...

can any one of us can think even in our dream tht some other person love our child more than us... even my mom ...my saas, my sisters, even some time mothers don't believe father can love their child more than her...

salima said this with so ease... hame yakeen hae Shahansha jodha begum rahim ko ham sae aur aap sae bhi zyada pyar karti hae...

really😲??

and

jodha begum attach to shahnaz emotionally...seriously?? ..so she is allowed to live freely in royal house hold with her mental disorder where she can ham any child or person with zero sence tht she did some thing wrong ..just bec jodha begu attached emotionally to her

ruku said ...shahnaz pushed her intentionalyy..ohk...

actually she was right...shahnaz did push Rahim in her complete sense

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really I m amzed on salima yesterday

Rahim must be harassed ... after jodha left the room who was taking care of Rahim while his mother was convincing Shahansha tht shahnaz is innocent...who the hell is shahnaz for a mother infront of his terrified child ...

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and for jodha..

I don't want to say any thing...

seriously

for me this is the most irritatin character I ever watch ... so I don't cmmen her for now

sara, to be honest if i was mother of rahim i would be terrified and not let him near shehnaaz...since shehnaaz is not even related to jodha i would advice jalal to take her to a hospital for treatment because there is no difference between having a child like mind in adulthood and being mentally retarded!..i would personally go with ruk's advice and jalal's first decision!

Originally posted by: Shweta16

Good post Mandy !

I'm more upset with SB than anyone else, she was a let down, its not that she should have been mad with anger but a mother whose 4 year old child if not saved on time could have died is expected to react with both fear and anger in such cases. Being emotional is not enough ! Sending Shehnaz back to Mathura is what she should have advice Jalal. I'm not at all surprised with Jodha, she is naive, and I really want her to get shock of her life when Shehnaz's and Sharif's truth comes out. Not everyone can be forgiven on basis of emotions ! and its a lesson she is in dire need to learn.

I feel Ruqaiya (excluding her evil intentions) was right ! Jalal has forgiven people because of the emotional bond he and his family shared with them but it does not mean he should ignore each and every crime/mistake just because the one who committed it has a pawan heart. What kind of logic this is 😕.

very well said shweta! i completely agree with you word for word! i will not let my child be in a place where a mentally challenged person is roaming freely who can be harmful, here i go with ruk and jalal's first decision and SB was far too calm than she should be!

Originally posted by: shiningways2407

I would go for begum1. I know she wanted to take advantage of situation to create drift b/w akdha but it cant b neglected that her each n every words were true. Be it her future fear or current scenario. Coming to begum 2 she said that shenaaz is like a child n not mad!! But even people with childish behaviour r dangerous!! She should have said that I will make sure that shenaaz doest create ny trouble in future or that she will take care of Rahim more but only thing that she said that nothing bad happened n acted as cupid n not as mother or queen. Now comes begum 3 ,srry to say but along with begum 2 she also didnt realised the depth of entire situation. She showed concern for shehnaaz. now comes badhshah's decision, so he said jodha to make sure for departure of shehnaaz which was apt decision. As of now we havent seen him taking u turn from his decision. Among all 4 person only he understood the depth of situation n what could have happened n what can happen in future. So for the time being I agree with his decision n I hope that he doesnt change it. N the very fact that he didnt apologised to jodha for the reason of shouting says that he is still following his inner instinct.

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

ap baj farmati hai😆...looking at the bigger picture it seems his decision will change bcz then how shenu will play out evil ?

ya I know it will happen thats y wrote that'AS OF NOW I AGREE WITH HIS DECISION' 😆. In future I may disagree if takes u-turn. Well cvs have taken oath that jalal will not be made to follow his inner instinct. U know even in suja track his inner instinct said that jo was meeting suja,lekin cvs ki leela aprampaar hai. Their heroines r made always right.😡

Mnady , this time i go with begum1 rukaiyah bcz even though her intention is evil which makes her real ..her love for rahim is genuine n each n every words r so true n m glad jalal agrred to her ...m more disappointed with salima ...👎🏼

Originally posted by: shiningways2407

ya I know it will happen thats y wrote that'AS OF NOW I AGREE WITH HIS DECISION' 😆. In future I may disagree if takes u-turn. Well cvs have taken oath that jalal will not be made to follow his inner instinct. U know even in suja track his inner instinct said that jo was meeting suja,lekin cvs ki leela aprampaar hai. Their heroines r made always right.😡

jalal's first instinct is always right but when mislead it leads to chaos..and baaki ki kasar natkiye rupantar puri kar dete hain😆

Originally posted by: shiningways2407

ya I know it will happen thats y wrote that'AS OF NOW I AGREE WITH HIS DECISION' 😆. In future I may disagree if takes u-turn. Well cvs have taken oath that jalal will not be made to follow his inner instinct. U know even in suja track his inner instinct said that jo was meeting suja,lekin cvs ki leela aprampaar hai. Their heroines r made always right.😡

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

Mnady , this time i go with begum1 rukaiyah bcz even though her intention is evil which makes her real ..her love for rahim is genuine n each n every words r so true n m glad jalal agrred to her ...m more disappointed with salima ...👎🏼

majority is going with her advice because she was right as far as its related to rahim, not that jodha doesn't care about rahim but she tries to keep too many people happy at the same time which is not possible, and in doing so she gets in trouble!

Originally posted by: mandyg

jalal's first instinct is always right but when mislead it leads to chaos..and baaki ki kasar natkiye rupantar puri kar dete hain😆

not simply natkiye rupantar but overdose of natkiye rupantar 😆