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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: zoharocks



me talking about Jodha...she has not been mentioned clearly in any proper text of Indian history



I dont think that Jodha/ MUZ/ Heer Kunwari not being mentioned at all in history is authentic, since I read a lot about her from some experts of history in this forum itself. But it is a fact that she played an important role in Akbar's life, especially in his transformation into Akbar, which no one can deny 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree she is confused n need to clear her vision
nm third one is truly true wen jalal said to ask sister she didnt even ask
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: zoharocks

the makers have very clearly tried to show the TRUE MAN AKBAR weaker in front of someone who is not even mentioned in history...🤢


And it is pretty evident as to why they do so...so well...the creatives suck not anybody else😡




Originally posted by: silent_moon


Hey dear,

May I know who this someone is? and how do you know that he/she is not even mentioned in history?
😕




Originally posted by: zoharocks

me talking about Jodha...she has not been mentioned clearly in any proper text of Indian history




@Red
.😕.😕.

May i know the sources which made you conclude such a thing. I fear your sources is/are not INTERNET.😕

BTW, Not only Indian History but FOREIGN accounts have written a lot on her. She is the only wife of Akbar, who is mentioned so much in the texts.

I concluded this because, i found SO MUCH info on her. You can check the following links, if interested..Probably, if you do not know about her, will surely know then..

Part1: Mariam Zamani - Some unknown facts
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46

Part2: Akbar Ruqayya, Ruqayya Miscarriage Incident, Akbar-Amer relations, etc.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36

Part3: GLORY OF FAITH : Akbar with Mariam Zamani Begum - Their Famous Painting
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3826749/glory-of-faith-akbar-n-muz-pt3-ja-not-fiction-akbar-seals-p25-note-p26


Part4: Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91


Also, FOR the reasons why wrong / distorted / degrading info is present about her on INTERNET and why it "APPEARS" that she is not mentioned. Check foll. links.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99071565

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98956120

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98184475

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99410274

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46?pn=37

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98555146

BTW...

Even today, the farmans / parwanas / edicts, which she issued are STILL preserved, with the ORIGINAL WAX seal of the Mughal Sultanate INTACT..!!... Had it been possible for me, i would have clicked the pictures of those EVIDENCES and posted THEM HERE AS WELL.😛

Also,
if such things can not be posted here. Lemme tell, She was Akbar's "ONLY QUEEN", who got palaces, where-ever Akbar built massive forts..!..(Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Allahabad, Lahore..)..These palaces are self-sufficient in DEMONSTRATING her existence.

A mosque built by her OWN son, Jahangir exists in Lahore named - Mosque of Mariam Zamani Begum Sahiba. That is one of the BIGGEST mosques in Pakistan.
I think no Mughal ruler built such a BIG religious place in the HONOUR of his mother.

Finally, Akbar would not have constructed so MANY palaces for his wife
(when ALL other wives resided in HAREM only.!!..), if he had NO passionate/love feeling for her.

Also, if there is a MIS-conception that she got so much importance AFTER giving birth to Salim. Then, kindly correct this also.

1. Her Palace of Agra, construction commenced in 1563-4.(though, Salim was born in 1569..!..)
2. The title of Mariam-Uz-Zamani was given after Salim's birth. BUT, Before Salim's birth also, Akbar bestowed a honorific title on her. Check this link
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/97854537


So, this MYTH of importance after Salim's birth is baseless.🤢. This "LINE" is actually written in a book by a foreign author
(dont want to write the name here)😆, and from there it went on wikipedia, then on countless FAKE stuff spewing websites on INTERNET, and finally in the minds of all the people.. Seriously, its quite easy to mislead.!😕.
Content on digital media is highly manipulated for communal and commercial reasons.!.

And, a son would not have constructed a separate BIG mosque in the honour of his mother, if she was not respected by him. Afterall, no Mughal ruler constructed such a big religious place like this for his mother .!.

Sometimes,
" Things seen from our OWN eye, prove a point better than what we read or HEAR. "


After reading all this, i feel the MIS-conception of Akbar and her relation being FICTION, will be dispelled. It is NOT FICTION..😊...And, after reading these infos, it won't take Rocket Science to decipher THEIR relation..!..

P.S --> Read chronicles and AUTHENTIC Gov. archives for CORRECT INFO. Link:
https:// www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3848936&PID=99108819&#p99108819
👍🏼
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: history_geek










@Red
.😕.😕.

May i know the sources which made you conclude such a thing. I fear your sources is/are not INTERNET.😕

BTW, Not only Indian History but FOREIGN accounts have written a lot on her. She is the only wife of Akbar, who is mentioned so much in the texts.

I concluded this because, i found SO MUCH info on her. You can check the following links, if interested..Probably, if you do not know about her, will surely know then..

Part1: Mariam Zamani - Some unknown facts
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46

Part2: Akbar Ruqayya, Ruqayya Miscarriage Incident, Akbar-Amer relations, etc.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36

Part3: GLORY OF FAITH : Akbar with Mariam Zamani Begum - Their Famous Painting
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3826749/glory-of-faith-akbar-n-muz-pt3-ja-not-fiction-akbar-seals-p25-note-p26


Part4: Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91


Also, FOR the reasons why wrong / distorted / degrading info is present about her on INTERNET and why it "APPEARS" that she is not mentioned. Check foll. links.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99071565

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98956120

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98184475

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99410274

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46?pn=37

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98555146

BTW...

Even today, the farmans / parwanas / edicts, which she issued are STILL preserved, with the ORIGINAL WAX seal of the Mughal Sultanate INTACT..!!... Had it been possible for me, i would have clicked the pictures of those EVIDENCES and posted THEM HERE AS WELL.😛

Also,
if such things can not be posted here. Lemme tell, She was Akbar's "ONLY QUEEN", who got palaces, where-ever Akbar built massive forts..!..(Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Allahabad, Lahore..)..These palaces are self-sufficient in DEMONSTRATING her existence.

A mosque built by her OWN son, Jahangir exists in Lahore named - Mosque of Mariam Zamani Begum Sahiba. That is one of the BIGGEST mosques in Pakistan.
I think no Mughal ruler built such a BIG religious place in the HONOUR of his mother.

Finally, Akbar would not have constructed so MANY palaces for his wife
(when ALL other wives resided in HAREM only.!!..), if he had NO passionate/love feeling for her.

Also, if there is a MIS-conception that she got so much importance AFTER giving birth to Salim. Then, kindly correct this also.

1. Her Palace of Agra, construction commenced in 1563-4.(though, Salim was born in 1569..!..)
2. The title of Mariam-Uz-Zamani was given after Salim's birth. BUT, Before Salim's birth also, Akbar bestowed a honorific title on her. Check this link
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/97854537


So, this MYTH of importance after Salim's birth is baseless.🤢. This "LINE" is actually written in a book by a foreign author
(dont want to write the name here)😆, and from there it went on wikipedia, then on countless FAKE stuff spewing websites on INTERNET, and finally in the minds of all the people.. Seriously, its quite easy to mislead.!😕.
Content on digital media is highly manipulated for communal and commercial reasons.!.

And, a son would not have constructed a separate BIG mosque in the honour of his mother, if she was not respected by him. Afterall, no Mughal ruler constructed such a big religious place like this for his mother .!.

Sometimes,
" Things seen from our OWN eye, prove a point better than what we read or HEAR. "


After reading all this, i feel the MIS-conception of Akbar and her relation being FICTION, will be dispelled. It is NOT FICTION..😊...And, after reading these infos, it won't take Rocket Science to decipher THEIR relation..!..

P.S --> Read chronicles and AUTHENTIC Gov. archives for CORRECT INFO. Link:
https:// www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3848936&PID=99108819&#p99108819
👍🏼


👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: history_geek










@Red
.😕.😕.

May i know the sources which made you conclude such a thing. I fear your sources is/are not INTERNET.😕

BTW, Not only Indian History but FOREIGN accounts have written a lot on her. She is the only wife of Akbar, who is mentioned so much in the texts.

I concluded this because, i found SO MUCH info on her. You can check the following links, if interested..Probably, if you do not know about her, will surely know then..

Part1: Mariam Zamani - Some unknown facts
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46

Part2: Akbar Ruqayya, Ruqayya Miscarriage Incident, Akbar-Amer relations, etc.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36

Part3: GLORY OF FAITH : Akbar with Mariam Zamani Begum - Their Famous Painting
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3826749/glory-of-faith-akbar-n-muz-pt3-ja-not-fiction-akbar-seals-p25-note-p26


Part4: Mughal Dresses + Holi festival + Mirza Hakim + Shivani Track info + Akbar-MUZ Convo.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91


Also, FOR the reasons why wrong / distorted / degrading info is present about her on INTERNET and why it "APPEARS" that she is not mentioned. Check foll. links.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99071565

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98956120

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98184475

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/99410274

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3782915/mariam-uz-zamani-pt1-updt-muz-p39-padshah-begum-p40-salim-and-muz-p46?pn=37

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98555146

BTW...

Even today, the farmans / parwanas / edicts, which she issued are STILL preserved, with the ORIGINAL WAX seal of the Mughal Sultanate INTACT..!!... Had it been possible for me, i would have clicked the pictures of those EVIDENCES and posted THEM HERE AS WELL.😛

Also,
if such things can not be posted here. Lemme tell, She was Akbar's "ONLY QUEEN", who got palaces, where-ever Akbar built massive forts..!..(Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Allahabad, Lahore..)..These palaces are self-sufficient in DEMONSTRATING her existence.

A mosque built by her OWN son, Jahangir exists in Lahore named - Mosque of Mariam Zamani Begum Sahiba. That is one of the BIGGEST mosques in Pakistan.
I think no Mughal ruler built such a BIG religious place in the HONOUR of his mother.

Finally, Akbar would not have constructed so MANY palaces for his wife
(when ALL other wives resided in HAREM only.!!..), if he had NO passionate/love feeling for her.

Also, if there is a MIS-conception that she got so much importance AFTER giving birth to Salim. Then, kindly correct this also.

1. Her Palace of Agra, construction commenced in 1563-4.(though, Salim was born in 1569..!..)
2. The title of Mariam-Uz-Zamani was given after Salim's birth. BUT, Before Salim's birth also, Akbar bestowed a honorific title on her. Check this link
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/97854537


So, this MYTH of importance after Salim's birth is baseless.🤢. This "LINE" is actually written in a book by a foreign author
(dont want to write the name here)😆, and from there it went on wikipedia, then on countless FAKE stuff spewing websites on INTERNET, and finally in the minds of all the people.. Seriously, its quite easy to mislead.!😕.
Content on digital media is highly manipulated for communal and commercial reasons.!.

And, a son would not have constructed a separate BIG mosque in the honour of his mother, if she was not respected by him. Afterall, no Mughal ruler constructed such a big religious place like this for his mother .!.

Sometimes,
" Things seen from our OWN eye, prove a point better than what we read or HEAR. "


After reading all this, i feel the MIS-conception of Akbar and her relation being FICTION, will be dispelled. It is NOT FICTION..😊...And, after reading these infos, it won't take Rocket Science to decipher THEIR relation..!..

P.S --> Read chronicles and AUTHENTIC Gov. archives for CORRECT INFO. Link:
https:// www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3848936&PID=99108819&#p99108819
👍🏼



]the makers have very clearly tried to show the TRUE MAN AKBAR weaker in front of someone who is not even mentioned in history...🤢

Tried to show true Akbar WEAKER due to Jodha!
Akbar or rather Jalal became Akbar the Great due to Jodha's love and influece on his life
He would have remained one of other mugals like Aurangzeb otherwise.

Abhay you have shared such AUTHENTIC INFORMATION, GIVEN PROOF WITH SOURCES OF WHICH ARCHIVES, WHICH BOOKS YOU HAVE READ TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION. I sincerely hope atleast all the serial fans here READ the links. Only then can they let go of this preconcieved predecided view of Jodha.

Auragzeb tried very hard to destroy Jodha's references, he did not succeed.

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56




Sukanya can continue to listen to Mayhem or confide in somebody either Jodha or Jalal
Surely for Sukanya Jalal is more to be trusted than Mayhem
Of course we can think this - wonder what they will show!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
this tm is always against jodha😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Tohru @ history_geek 👏 Bang On you both 👍🏼 whatever i wanted to say about the serial JA & the real JA you both replied it perfectly 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Tried to show true Akbar WEAKER due to Jodha!
Akbar or rather Jalal became Akbar the Great due to Jodha's love and influece on his life
He would have remained one of other mugals like Aurangzeb otherwise.

Abhay you have shared such AUTHENTIC INFORMATION, GIVEN PROOF WITH SOURCES OF WHICH ARCHIVES, WHICH BOOKS YOU HAVE READ TO GATHER THIS INFORMATION. I sincerely hope atleast all the serial fans here READ the links. Only then can they let go of this preconcieved predecided view of Jodha.

Auragzeb tried very hard to destroy Jodha's references, he did not succeed.

Friends, I am confused. Are we talking about the real akbar and his wife or the jo and ja as shown in the serial?


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Posted: 11 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Friends, I am confused. Are we talking about the real akbar and his wife or the jo and ja as shown in the serial?




Sandhya Dear,
Your confusion is Valid...😆 U see members keep oscillating between Serial and Reality...hence the confusion...

For the time being, @Abhay @MaddyO etc is on Reality and @ Innocent @ TM is on Serial...
However, @TM started off the topic with some very strong comments on real Amer Gang and their intention...
😳

Hope your confusion is a bit clear now.😃

Regards,
Kamal

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