FOOD FOR THOUGHT.....are we hypocrites??? - Page 2

Originally posted by: blyton

1.I don't think Mona talking about AA praising her new look amounts to arrogance. Arrogance comes from one's attitude, not words. AS Tina very rightly says, see everything in context.

i never said that was arrogance..arrogance was best manifested in her statement" it was a mental torture to be jassi and tell everyone that i am not jassi and its disheartening to know that jjkn is not ending"...that's ARROGANCE.......THAT'S BRAGGING IN A SUBTLE WAY😃......she often says things like"i have lost so much weight that people fail to recognize me", "apu praised me so much", " i have great curves" etc etc...subtle bragging LOL...

but what i highlightened......its all in the context...so even if the context is aberrant, we chose to construe it in the right context

Originally posted by: blyton

Remember that Mona was dazed after the makeover; the adulation was mind-blowing; and as we all know AA himself got a bit carried away. We have all seen AJK spl where he was praising her face, her eyes.... 😳

mona looked weird as jassi..after the makeover, she turned into a normal girl..not a drop dead gorgeous model.....there were so many pretty girls like aamna who were allready existing..so it was not a situation like men couldnt help but fall for mona singh......and mona had put on oodles of weight ....as i said, she just looked normal, not ravishing that everyone were smitten by her..just an honest opinion....mona's makeover was overhyped by sony, mona herself is overhyped...there are many girls who are prettier than her and whocan act as well as her but do not get this much of propagada and hype....deepa parab who plays the lead in thodi khushi is a great actress..she has never won awards earlier but she's as good as mona....but she wasnt hyped in "reths"...shama sikander was a great actress......many balaji girls are brilliant but are just not hyped as balaji hypes only the protagonists.....i know i'm digressing , but i had to say this😊

Originally posted by: blyton

2. SS chipkofying to AA IS annoying; he is her hubby for heaven's sake...she doesn't need to do all that . have we ever seen Gauri chipkofying to Hiten or Maninee clinging to Mihir?
Now when MandA flirt, it is both -sided; in fact AA comes on far stronger than MS. THIS is the intriguing part that makes MANDA mystery such a treat for us besharams.

Mind you, i f i didn't feel convinced that it was MUTUAL, i would never haev been in favour of MandA's "relationship"; i would have just passed over it as poor mOna's hopeless crush.

at times.......but chat with khush once and she will leave you all as she will so strongly argue that the graph is more palpable on MS' side.......understandable too........but most of the times, AA comes on strong on ss too..dont forget SPA😆....but we are again digressing....

it is mutual.......but isnt it wrong on our parts....and why should we wish doom for mona...wouldnt she get anyone better than AA???..anyone better than a random struggling television actor???..we, for one, wouldnt want our homes to be wrecked right.......SS, at the end of the day, is a woman and my heart would bleed for her(allthough it sounds impossible) if she is betrayed

Originally posted by: Blyton

3. I've never seen mona yelling at any function. 😕

NOT YELLING😆😆😆..boisterously cheering....uproariously laughing...come on, didnt mona guffaw away to glory at AJK....had SS done that, we aould have bashed..but since it was mona, it was ok....that's precisely what's i'm quizzing...arent we hypocritical....😉

Originally posted by: Blyton

4. I lowe Mona's looks and her voice. No comparison with SS. Period. 😉

arent we being hypocritical....😉..because we love the person, the gruffy voice becomes a sweet one.....had we loved ss, we would have loved her banshee voice😆..but as i had said, this is a weak point...

Originally posted by: Blyton

5. Mona's quip on KF was smart and to the point. Even ppl who don't watch JJKN commented on it and said that it was clever. There was nothing offensive in what she said.

her quip was smart....but the question is, was it something to be said on national television😕....if vulgar quips can be accepted without batting an eyelid, why shouldnt we accept out and out IDIOCY of SS.....i know i'm going too much into this, but if a woman has a BF, who is ready to come home whenever she wants, in the presence of her husband, it doesnt really speak too good for her😭😭...i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee myself for saying all this, but hell, why shouldnt i???its not going to make a difference anyways😕...she was the one who said it, so i construe it the way i want to....yes, perhaps i'm also hypocritical in the fact that i try to find faults with everythig that mona does..just like how peopel try to defend ALL THAT she does.vulgarity leaves an acrid taste in the mouth🤢....subtle vulgarity

Originally posted by: Blyton

6. IF AA had married Mona (kaaaaashhhhhhhh.....sorry Buffie, you ruffled a MANDA die-hard here... 😉 ) I am 100% sure that he would not have been a JKG.
Watch MANDA"s beh together; it is AA who is ina commanding role while Mona blushes and is demure like with no one else. 😳 HAD they married, AA would have got the chance to blossom to his full potential which is being stifled now with SS. 😭

DONT be so sure...we dont know mona from adams.....and even if we meet her as random fans, we are not going to know the REAL mona singh, her quirks, her mood-swings, her atitude etc...now if i become a celebrity tomorrow, and if a darn interviewer comes to interview me, i will onyl say nice things about myself,...or give them a good impression...little will people know tat i argue so much😆...so how can we say that apu wouldnt have been a JKG.....wasnt MM following mona like a puppy, to be used and then thrown........apu would have been the same, hell, uxoriousness is his inborn idiosyncrasy😆...he would beeen as submissive as now in his previous relationship..........

Originally posted by: Blyton

7. SS is not at all honest. bluntness does not equal honesty. SS told a BIG FAT LIE 😡 that she had been offered a number of roles in JJKN before Vidhi; when we know from Tablet that it was she who had literally forced her way in.

she was offered the role of shuili😃😆(i cant believe i'm defending SS😕😕😆)but compared to mona's lies, SS' lies look belittled.......

Originally posted by: blyton

Which TV Producer, in today's day and age, would run after a mediocre actress like SS for months?

which movie producer, in today's day and age would run after a middling actress like mona for months 😉😆...dont curse me please...

Originally posted by: Blyton

Even her mentor Kekta would chuck her off if tomorrow SS gave her attitude. IF TnD were that impressed with SS, how come they didn't take her for JLH? (they have repeated Bebe in that, after all).

why didnt they take mona😉..she could have played aanya...but i just loveeeee the guy who plays raghu..so i would have never wanted apu to play that role....

Originally posted by: blyton

How come they didn't even say they would like to work with her again? They only mentioned mOna; not even AA becoz with a liability like SS coming to their sets to spy, they would not like to be saddled with AA.

WHY are we digressing.....i mean, these points make no relevance😕mona is a bigger star than SS...SS cannot carry a show on her shoulder, mona can....we are not comparing mona's acting prowess and ss' acting prowess...i am just saying that we are being too hypocritical......kahaan se kahaan aa gaye hum😆

ahem, no mod here these days 😛 ..btw, where's lashy 😕

Okay my views:
I agree with you Buffie, just because we 'love' mona we turn a blind eye to her errors.😲..we think, just because she is 'mona' and is 'our' Jassi..(the one whom gave a face and identity to the character)..she can't DO anything wrong..we think this because, we got attached to 'mona' because of Jassi-we have been watching her from day 1..so whatever 'jassi' aka 'mona' does, may it be good OR bad, we IGNORE(take it or leave it, we IGNORE...no better term to describe).

On the other hand, ss married aa AFTER JJKN..by then, JandA HADN'T become recognised by us..it was only later, lets say the earliest we found out SandA were hooked was by the end of 2004(well, i only found Dec 2004)..and by then, we were attached to JandA(mona was still gawky)..so when some of us heard to 'news' that AA was married to the Ganga of kyunki, it had come as a 'disappointment'..because, most of us had started to fall in love with AA through armaan..and were besotted by JandA...so the news was hard to digest🤢😕..speaking from experience, when i found out that sanda had shaadied🤢..i was not relatively sad😆..but i had seen JandA, and was besotted by them😕..heck, i even watched Kyunki to see who aa had married, aka who was this 'ganga'😆..

Anyhoo, back to the point...we had ALREADY seen ss as aa's 'wife'..i admit, i DID get confused by reel and real(the excellent point nibbles stated👏)..hence, i thought aa could only belong to ms..because as was destined for jw😳..that must be part of the reasons why i hated ss to begin with😡..

You may or may not agree, but i think the main reason for us not liking ss is because she is 'aa's wife'..its all subconious people..we just have to be ready to accept it. As i said, subconcious thinking😛..i know, thats what happend to me..i was subconciously thinking about JandA..that MandA seemed perfect for eachother too..to subconciously, i was thinking mona is destined for apurva..vice versa..so i COULDN'T TAKE the fact that aa was MARRIED to someone OTHER THAN MONA😭

now i have to shutup and bear..its not as if its got anything to do with me anyways😕..SandA 4eva then..

LMAOOOOOO..ss and the poreclain doll😆..ya buffie, we were glorifying ss on that one😉..i'd love to be compared to an ornament😕..c'mon, ornamentss are perfect😕..no blemishess, perfect makeup and hair, straight teeth............who wouldnt wanna be an ornament?😕

continue later......😛

I completely disagree with nibbles that real and reel life was mixed when and wanted MandA together and hence hated Ss.As i said,i dislike SS as she comes across an immature,childish person who doesnt carry herself very well.Thats it period.

Infact when sanda got married,I was happy and very glad and liked them but the more i saw of her and even AA offscreen,I disliked what i saw .

Mona singh is an intelligent and a smart actress who carries herself very well in all her interviews.As for her interviews,she has told her her honest opinion abt continuing in jassi and even if she says she is bored,what so arrogant or bad abt it,I rather prefer people who say that their job is getting monotonous and wants to move on rather than people who would continue to do anything for the money and even be a yes yes man .

Mona's statement in KF was again proof her smartness and her sense of humour.Shilpa saklani statement even if said with a sense of humour was totally childish , think abt it .

As mentioned in my earlier post,it is what we see of them on screen and that forms the basis of our opinion,I certainly see mona as an intelligent and a smart gal and i like that and I see an imature and childish personality in SS and i dislike that.

There is a vast difference when mona singh is laughing and SS' is shrieking .

I again stand by my belief that MandA do flirt and they were attracted towards each other at some point and i do not want MandA to break their commitment/marriage .Infact i prefer monawith a better guy as I am not at all impressed with AA in real life .

Well, my reason for preferring Mona to SS has nothing to do with manda or sanda. Mona comes across as a warm lovable person, who carries herself well and usually dresses well.

SS on the other hand, talks too much, repeats herself over and over again, shrieks, and the clothes she wears are ewwwwww. She may be a wonderful person for all I know but since we don't know her personally these are unfortunately the things that viewers are going to judge her by.

Originally posted by: blyton

Ok Buffie, keeping an open and spacious 😆 mind, i am writing this:

1.I don't think Mona talking about AA praising her new look amounts to arrogance. Arrogance comes from one's attitude, not words. AS Tina very rightly says, see everything in context. Remember that Mona was dazed after the makeover; the adulation was mind-blowing; and as we all know AA himself got a bit carried away. We have all seen AJK spl where he was praising her face, her eyes.... 😳
So i have no doubt that he praised her to the skies when he saw her real face; and since MS already had a crush on him , she was delighted and mentioned this in her interview. I think it was very natural. 😛

2. SS chipkofying to AA IS annoying; he is her hubby for heaven's sake...she doesn't need to do all that . have we ever seen Gauri chipkofying to Hiten or Maninee clinging to Mihir?
Now when MandA flirt, it is both -sided; in fact AA comes on far stronger than MS. THIS is the intriguing part that makes MANDA mystery such a treat for us besharams.

Mind you, i f i didn't feel convinced that it was MUTUAL, i would never haev been in favour of MandA's "relationship"; i would have just passed over it as poor mOna's hopeless crush.

3. I've never seen mona yelling at any function. 😕

4. I lowe Mona's looks and her voice. No comparison with SS. Period. 😉

5. Mona's quip on KF was smart and to the point. Even ppl who don't watch JJKN commented on it and said that it was clever. There was nothing offensive in what she said.

6. IF AA had married Mona (kaaaaashhhhhhhh.....sorry Buffie, you ruffled a MANDA die-hard here... 😉 ) I am 100% sure that he would not have been a JKG.
Watch MANDA"s beh together; it is AA who is ina commanding role while Mona blushes and is demure like with no one else. 😳 HAD they married, AA would have got the chance to blossom to his full potential which is being stifled now with SS. 😭

7. SS is not at all honest. bluntness does not equal honesty. SS told a BIG FAT LIE 😡 that she had been offered a number of roles in JJKN before Vidhi; when we know from Tablet that it was she who had literally forced her way in.
Which TV Producer, in today's day and age, would run after a mediocre actress like SS for months? Even her mentor Kekta would chuck her off if tomorrow SS gave her attitude. IF TnD were that impressed with SS, how come they didn't take her for JLH? (they have repeated Bebe in that, after all). How come they didn't even say they would like to work with her again? They only mentioned mOna; not even AA becoz with a liability like SS coming to their sets to spy, they would not like to be saddled with AA.

Conclusion: I still LOWEEEEEEE MOna! Heh heh!! 😳

very well said

Me 101% with blyton.....I love mona with open and huge empty mind of mine's😆 😊

Originally posted by: Moni

I agree with you Buffie, just because we 'love' mona we turn a blind eye to her errors...we think, just because she is 'mona' and is 'our' Jassi..(the one whom gave a face and identity to the character)..she can't DO anything wrong..we think this because, we got attached to 'mona' because of Jassi-we have been watching her from day 1..so whatever 'jassi' aka 'mona' does, may it be good OR bad, we IGNORE(take it or leave it, we IGNORE...no better term to describe).

bang on moni 👏👏....that's what I was trying to say and people digressed and made it an ss bashing mission(and i of all people even defended her in this thread...cant believe it lol😕)

Originally posted by: MONI

On the other hand, ss married aa AFTER JJKN..by then, JandA HADN'T become recognised by us..it was only later, lets say the earliest we found out SandA were hooked was by the end of 2004(well, i only found Dec 2004)..and by then, we were attached to JandA(mona was still gawky)..so when some of us heard to 'news' that AA was married to the Ganga of kyunki, it had come as a 'disappointment'..because, most of us had started to fall in love with AA through armaan..and were besotted by JandA...so the news was hard to digest..speaking from experience, when i found out that sanda had shaadied..i was not relatively sad..but i had seen JandA, and was besotted by them..heck, i even watched Kyunki to see who aa had married, aka who was this 'ganga'.. 😆

Anyhoo, back to the point...we had ALREADY seen ss as aa's 'wife'..i admit, i DID get confused by reel and real(the excellent point nibbles stated)..hence, i thought aa could only belong to ms..because as was destined for jw..that must be part of the reasons why i hated ss to begin with..

GOOD POINTS 👏 ..but the best was the below written

Originally posted by: moni

You may or may not agree, but i think the main reason for us not liking ss is because she is 'aa's wife'

YES!!!!!its very hard to confess but i do!!!....its all there in the subconscious😉.and we reached a point where we developed this attitude that whatever ss does is crap 😕 .......no, lets face it as we have anyways ready for the introspection 😛 ....NOW, if ss had been an angelic woman, we wouldnt have bashed...but for our convenience, she came across as an arrogant, egoistic pompous woman who couldnt dress to save her life 😃 ...we made excuses and bashed her for all her infirmities and even foibles

Originally posted by: MONI

..its all subconious people..we just have to be ready to accept it. As i said, subconcious thinking..i know, thats what happend to me..i was subconciously thinking about JandA..that MandA seemed perfect for eachother too..to subconciously, i was thinking mona is destined for apurva..vice versa..so i COULDN'T TAKE the fact that aa was MARRIED to someone OTHER THAN MONA

I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THOSE SHOES 😆 i couldnt accept sanda but that was not because i wanted manda 😃

Originally posted by: moni

LMAOOOOOO..ss and the poreclain doll..ya buffie, we were glorifying ss on that one..i'd love to be compared to an ornament..c'mon, ornamentss are perfect..no blemishess, perfect makeup and hair, straight teeth............

are you sarcastic 😕

Originally posted by: hansini

whats the need to compare ss with ms in the first place........isnt it only coz she is aa wife .... aa whom we want to see with MS coz of her jassi image we identify ourselves with her and it would be like the realization of our dreams......we are carried away by the jjkn story so much that we have started wishing it were true .....and how would it become true to some extent!.....if apurva and mona fall hopelessly in love with each other like jassi and armaan......so to justify their actions ,we have to prove that ss is mean......hence we find faults in everything that she does and every sentence that she utters.........

I dont agree......SS came in for severe flak for the following reasons

1)her offscreen bragging, shrieking, screeching, clinging, throwing her weight around, pomposity etc......50%

2)A few of us in the subconscious envied SS.....20%

3)Ss' clothes became a excuse for us to bash......5%

4)SS' own behaviour 25%

the bashing didnt start as we loved mona.....me, sheena and moni bashed ss the most, but none of us were DIE HARD MONA SINGH FANS..moni might have been a manda fan, not me...so you see, we didnt make SS bear the brunt of our annoyance that manda didnt get married..ss bore the brunt of her own deeds..she wasnt scapegoated ..i can say that for sure and everybody would vouch for that

Originally posted by: hansu

and i dont think that mona singh brings out tha best in apurva......in what way ......when he is with her i have seen himhe either flirting ,grinning foolishly or blushing for god knows what reason ,i wont call that very good behaviour and talking about being relaxed, he must have felt comfortable with ss also b4 marriage otherwise why would he have married her........

agreed ss has flaws but is mona flawless...... people love her coz they love jassi......in the same way as as (Amar upadhaya(first and original mihir) in ksbkbt rose to instant fame and even managed to grab some film offers ,but look where he is now.....while mihir is still popular and loved.

guess what....you are right😛....we know that mona does not bring out the best in apu, but we turn a blind eye to it.....he gises to the point of annoyance, flirts around without any hesitation, but its all loved because the woman in discussion happens to be mona singh....and because we are manda fans, we accpet it....that's why i questioned..if apu had flirted with urvashi dholakia, wouldnt we have bashed 😉 ..because its mona, its ok.....if mona falls all over apu, its ok, but when lawfully wedded ss clings, its abrasive
when mona bursts into peels of laughter for no reason, its ok, but when ss laughs, she's called a banshee(ok, i know i musnt be comparing mona 's laugh and ss' wailing hooting screech😕).......when mona does a mistake, its ignored..when ss says the smallest f things , its blown out of proportion....hell, we all think its our prerorgative to cook a snook at sanda, discuss what they do in their home and what they dont,discuss what they must do and what they must not....YES, even i'm guilty here.....but offlate it had become too much 😕😭

Originally posted by: tina59

Mona's statement in KF was again proof her smartness and her sense of humour.Shilpa saklani statement even if said with a sense of humour was totally childish , think abt it .

mona's smartness😆..sorry, you havent watched the debate that mona was a part of on NDTV india last year.....just after the makeover, there was a debate with mona, some random woman activist, and one struggling actress.......now the topic of debate...is it important for a woman to be beautiful....and guess what, mona looked like a fish out of water...her points were SO IDIOTICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

talking about woman empowerment, mona said that jassi could slap armaan sir, armaan couldnt slap her back...now in real life, any secratery would have been given the pink slip if she had slapped her boss..armaan was a lovelorn guy who was too confused to even know his mind........now what was that😕...jjkn was a damn soap, fiction and in a real life debate, mona was citing fictional examples....she was like, armaan sir liked me even when i was not pretty and stuff like that😕........she was idiotically grinning whereas that struggling actress herself as debating very well, though she didnt know english..........my mother remarked"why is she citing examples for her serial".....yes, moan was liek jassi slaped armaan, armaan couldnt...jassi became pretty and mallika respects her, ......she couldnt even debate out as to whether its needed to be beautiful or not😕.....now how hard is it for a "SMART" girl to take up one stand and defend and debate??????

and at the end of the debate, mona says" if you are in the entertainment line, you need to be pretty, otherwise not necessary"...now that was THE ONLY ONE SENSIBLE statement made by mona in the entire debate.....

Hi Buffie,

Logging after a long time... And boy I was surprised to see a topic not getting lost in the end and turning into a chat...I am happy to see SS not bashed in this thread for a change... 😉 Actually I enjoyed reading a good debate after a long time..good job all of you... 👏

Love,
JD