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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow...I'm jealous of ur thinking process
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ammullu1

Wow...I'm jealous of ur thinking process

Always remain open that is the key and be still and listen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Can u pls post the youtube links to the subtitled episodes... Plsss... Thank u.
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very interesting post, thought provoking and a fact
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: cinthiann1758

IPK IN AN INSTANT

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXz5gUmiEXg[/YOUTUBE] CREDIT UPLOADER

On the Blast fronm the Past thread we have discussed this term over and over again...manhandling. Did ASR manhandled Khushi? Many of us said yes but others said no.

I am one of the firm believers that he did manhandle Khushi...alot! But still I fell in love with this character/man.
Why, I ask myself over and over again? I should despise him. He was mean in so many ways and abusive, from his spoken word ("low middle class mentality") to his grabbing her wrist tightly that left his fingermarks inbedded into her pale skin to using his manliness to frighten her in a sexual way bringing her too close to his body, that she could feel the warmth of his breath upon her cheek. He used his batameez to threaten her while breaking her pearl dori and even let go of her as she desperately clung to his hand outside his office window.
Yes, Khushi was manhandled.
In this episode you can see his anger/gussa. He expresses it, swiftly grabbing her wrist as she was walking away and twists her bringing her ever so close, their bodies just barely a breath apart. My heart leapt. His masculinity dominating our pale Cinderella and as irate as I was, I too was subdued and surrendered. I hated myself for being stirred by this man. But I noticed something which sets ASR apart from an abuser. Her tears move him. He loosens his hold. An abuser would care less; he would laugh at her tears and even hurt her more. ASR would not do that. Yes he manhandled her...but I believe it was because of his own frustration of his attraction to this "middle class"ladki. He would yell, using her complete name, corner her, threaten her, grab her and tightly hold on to those delicate wrists, pulling her close trying to teach her a lesson that noone but Arnav Singh Raizada, the man that god bows down to, will she answer to. She has no control over him, atleast this is what he tries to convince himself and she will always be wrong in his eyes. But then the manhandling ASR, who runs to make sure this ladki doesn't burn herself while holding a leaning lit candle as he ignores his live-in girlfiend as she falls off a stool to the floor. Yup, ASR is a manhandler but certainly not an abuser. He is just a frustrated man learning the meaning of falling in love.

*I am not sure what this all means and why the universe does what it does but just as a side note. I recently fractured my lumbar vertebrae and I am in a brace. I believe wholeheartedly that healing comes from within so I researched the Lumbar spine and what the vertebrae in question represented. So I being a holistic yogini went to Louise Hay's book You Can Heal Your Life and found that it referenced some things that occurred in my life, including guilt and self hatred. Its affirmation to repeat like a mantra is "I release the past. I cherish myself and my beautiful sexuality. I am safe. I am loved." It was interesting to me why this incident which I had worked through and released came back to haunt me at this time in my life. Sometimes when I am down I look through YouTube for the old IPK scenes and the one above popped up. It always rattled me ASR being beastly to Kushi, I think it reminded me of my own past experiences and I would always want to go and champion her. I use to argue with the girls of the BFTP thread telling them he manhandled her and what was worse was I really, really was attracted to this aspect of ASR. Crazy I thought. well, after watching this I finally realized the difference of an abuser and a frustrated man. The character of ASR was tormented by a past and frustrated by a middle class girl who he was deeply touched and attracted to, but he refused to believe it. He acted like a beast so she would go away. So he wouldn't feel what he was feeling. ASR was happy living in his world of orders and ice...he couldn't feel a thing but power. He didn't believe in God yet DM never left him. He was surrounded by women who believed.
Anyway, it is my wish to impart some wisdom I have learned and experienced.
Young women of today must be empowered. NO means NO. No man should ever touch a woman inaappropriately whether through force, anger, sexual intent, or verbal abuse. Women of today have the right to express their feelings and not to stay in abusive relationships, even an ASR relationship. Sometimes we are blinded by the masculintiy and handsomeness of a man but if he doesn't treat you with respect...get rid of him. This leads me back to my back and what I am now being directed to do. I am becoming a volunteer in a women's shelter and a Victim's Advocate. This back issue reminded me of things that happened in my past and it reminded me that I too can help other women not to go through what I have or atleast let them know you can survive this and it is NOT your fault! . So dears, empower yourself. Don't be afraid to come out and help others in whatever way the Universe leads you.
Still love the fiery, angry ASR...but loved him even more when Khushi stole his heart.


I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAID YES...
IPK and logic sense has no relationship from any angle...
If you have a man like ASR in real life...regardless the love and care comes along ...it is still a manhandling...period...the way she gets bruised around her arms, wrists...no way but AGAIN WE SEE THIS WHOLE THING with different pair of eyes...why? because we know him inside out over this side of the screen...just like anyone in real life can't judge a person until you are with that person...

Arnav's anger and frustrations start as a child what he was holding behind his orbs..what he saw seeing and hearing his parents...He was close to his mother and he saw her sufferings...as a boy he developed that in rage...but instead of being a mean in character...like Shyam...he became mean through words but his heart was clean like a slate and you could write anything on it...if he lets you...and Khushi was the one who entered there without his permission...shook his castle of defense against this LOVE and he started this against her only...but he surrendered...and she won embracing all of his pain and frustration...in such a way that she became his heartbeat and both live on each other through this connection miles apart .Their soul connection is the one we can call for eternity...

Cynthia , we always bend when our shoulders gets in the grip of realization and then redemption over things which we normally don't take as important comes into the light...My soul sister...this is life..and my belief and practice is when something bothers you from some one and certain elements...stay away from those...and who knows more than you...that I act upon this strongly...but I reached to the point and strongly agree with ASR..."Don't let anyone come near to you that close that he/she can hurt you..."

Please take care of yourself...

Love ❤️


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Superb observation 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: jani_faizal

Can u pls post the youtube links to the subtitled episodes... Plsss... Thank u.

I am sorry I don't have the subtitled episodes. If you go onto youtube and type in the show and englisah subtitles you something may come up. I will check too. You can check this persons videos on dailymotion she may have it. http://www.dailymotion.com/user/Gece-Bekcisi/1
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .ArshiHamesha.


I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAID YES...
IPK and logic sense has no relationship from any angle...
If you have a man like ASR in real life...regardless the love and care comes along ...it is still a manhandling...period...the way she gets bruised around her arms, wrists...no way but AGAIN WE SEE THIS WHOLE THING with different pair of eyes...why? because we know him inside out over this side of the screen...just like anyone in real life can't judge a person until you are with that person...Yes Faiqa until you are with him. You don't know their real character until you are able to see into their soul.
Arnav's anger and frustrations start as a child what he was holding behind his orbs..what he saw seeing and hearing his parents...He was close to his mother and he saw her sufferings...as a boy he developed that in rage...but instead of being a mean in character...like Shyam...he became mean through words but his heart was clean like a slate and you could write anything on it...if he lets you...and Khushi was the one who entered there without his permission...shook his castle of defense against this LOVE and he started this against her only...but he surrendered...and she won embracing all of his pain and frustration...in such a way that she became his heartbeat and both live on each other through this connection miles apart .Their soul connection is the one we can call for eternity...One that none can compare...

Cynthia , we always bend when our shoulders gets in the grip of realization and then redemption over things which we normally don't take as important comes into the light...My soul sister...this is life..and my belief and practice is when something bothers you from some one and certain elements...stay away from those...and who knows more than you...that I act upon this strongly...but I reached to the point and strongly agree with ASR..."Don't let anyone come near to you that close that he/she can hurt you..."Yes he did feel that as he felt she betrayed him. but love prevailed over evil as always.

Please take care of yourself...

Love ❤️Love you too! Thanks for reading, feeling and commenting my soul sister.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vandu123

Superb observation 😉

Thank you.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very interesting Cynthia. I know you are bothered a lot lately, hope this healing process helps.

ASR, I love your differentiation of an abuser from a non- abuser.. totally agree. I am one of those who didn't really fall for him initially, much angered by his initial insults towards her in the office but post guest house he is a man metamorphosed.. a total transformation...even then retained the rough edges until diwali..its wtih his very genuine and gentle break up with La he completely won over me never to look back.
Manhandling, there is a clear demarcation made between an error and a mistake... that committed intentionally and one unknowingly, instantly.. most of his so called manhandlings, grabbing her wrists were done in a sheer burning attraction to get her close than with a intention to physically hurt her.. altho i can think of a couple instances in the office on top of my head where he did try to sexually intimidate her. If he is a manhandler, he would have done the same with La, but he didn't.
Yes, women should never stay in abusive relationships.. have the strength and courage to fight it out, but he is not an abuser, esp after she entered RM. he may physically unintentionally hurt her.. but his heart is an absolute wax and Khushi could sense it...she preferred his way of loving to sugar coated Shyam. Even if Shyam were not to be married, his trying to boss around her post that engagement didn't really sit well with her...

Cynthia, hope you better soon... thanks for this engaging piece..
take care..

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