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wow this is very interesting.. loved all the videos and posts.. well is ASR an abuser? yes.. but man we loved him for that as he was not very routine kind of lover who moves around his lover with his heart in his hands.. our ASR even though he used to manhandle his khushi a tear in her eyes and there goes all gussa of ASR in air.. ASR who was rude, arrogant and was madly attracted to khushi was fighting his attraction for somebody whom he didn't think of his status or level. He had this continued war with his heart who is beating for khushi while his mind is against her.. kuch bhi ho.. have never been in love with any character the way i am in love with ASR.. he is ultimate lover.. his love is in his hate, his crude words, his eyes, his body language, his eyebrows, his smirks, his everything.. I feel ASR will always remain Barun Sobti's best.. Barun was best and his added good looks, his style made ASR historic.. loved Reliving IPK in an Instant.. fallen again in love with ASR and his khushi.. waise never had come out of the love for them but watching them makes fall for them more and then i start missing them.. ARSHI our beloved.. love them.. miss them..

Originally posted by: pup03

wow this is very interesting.. loved all the videos and posts.. well is ASR an abuser? yes.. but man we loved him for that as he was not very routine kind of lover who moves around his lover with his heart in his hands.. our ASR even though he used to manhandle his khushi a tear in her eyes and there goes all gussa of ASR in air.. ASR who was rude, arrogant and was madly attracted to khushi was fighting his attraction for somebody whom he didn't think of his status or level. He had this continued war with his heart who is beating for khushi while his mind is against her.. kuch bhi ho.. have never been in love with any character the way i am in love with ASR.. he is ultimate lover.. his love is in his hate, his crude words, his eyes, his body language, his eyebrows, his smirks, his everything.. I feel ASR will always remain Barun Sobti's best.. Barun was best and his added good looks, his style made ASR historic.. loved Reliving IPK in an Instant.. fallen again in love with ASR and his khushi.. waise never had come out of the love for them but watching them makes fall for them more and then i start missing them.. ARSHI our beloved.. love them.. miss them..

thanks for pm Cynthia.. will be looking forward to next post.. till then best wishes 😊

Originally posted by: indi52

beautiful post, cynthia.

manhandler. hmmm. well i thought he was the villain when i saw episode one, but thankfully i had seen diwali by poolside by then.

i think his reaction to khushi was a specific one, it had violence in its core because he could feel something reach out to her from him and he definitely had no place or time for this in his life. in him was running wild his mother's hurt perhaps, her betrayal by his father... all her pain and no way could he let anything like this come near him. his eyes had moved over her face in a strange way... almost riveted.. powerl;ess, when he instinctively held out his arms, caught her... and looked at her. did a dori snap in him then? I think one did Indi. The way his eyes scanned her face and settled on her lips, showing the sexual man deep inside. Loved that. Soemthing definitely tugged if not snapped!

more than touching her, i have often pondered that tearing of the dori... in the mind it can go all the way to a ripping of innocence... a rape. he actually touched something on her body and tore it... a complete stranger... in a dark room in a mansion. Such a serious violation my poor naive Khushi. His power over her...yikes

i almost stopped breathing. then she opened her hair and flung it over her back to hide her nakedness and turned to look at him, tears rolling down her cheek.

something happened...Yes something did to all of us. lol No I have to go back and see his face then and I will respond later.

he just stood there almost unable to move and she walked away.

she had said something about his sister on the back of his egregious and confounding insults about girls like her and her sister, etc. they had never met, yet he had some preconceived notions about young girls, beautiful ones... yes those types of ladki's

that he was complex and hidden was kind of apparent, yet his dark threatening feel was scary almost.I wished I watched it from the beginning, I think my impression of him then would have been different. I would have hated him then and would have been pro Khushi but since I started the show around Diwali I fell hard.

i feel we women, abused and manhandled by society since society came into being, and this i totally believe... no one has been fair to the woman (obviously and brutally at times, sweetly and cunningly at others). you have to go and get fair treatment for yourself, no matter what age, which part of the world and which year... anyway i feel we at a subconscious level feel a sense of power or maybe we soothe our souls, i don't know... when we think we have "tamed" a monster, a beast... with our abilities... our extreme love, our innocence, our beauty... things that are our "power".yeah I believed that when I was 20. I married him thinking I would tame him. He beat the hell out of me...I left married 7 months. I was destroyed but alas I met John during that time and had to endure the atrocity to be with John, hamesha.

a sense of joy in vanquishing a man, if you will. if i take this thought to its extreme.

in the forum too i have noticed much jubilation at khushi taming the brute tycoon.I must say they did have him turn to mush, not sure I adored the mushy ASR I like a little edge.

ipk's writers possibly started with this insight. they created what they kept calling a "dark" character. against that they contrasted a very "lit" character, happy, fey, innocent, full of hope... and waited for the chemistry to work its magic. for the dark one to be slain.👏

i think barun, in his portrayal, just started adding such feelings to the character, feelings you sensed, but couldn't find words for... he almost felt vulnerable even when he raged... somewhere along the way, asr became complex and real and a human being with frailties but utter beauty too.He played him brilliantly. Look forward to seeing the dark side of him on the big screen again.

and it seemed to spark something in khushi... the woman in her emerged, not just the "lit" girl but one more layered... she yearned for this nasty devil, even when she believed he had sent her to a collapsing building and risked her life... she held onto a key that connected her to him on a day when he was all set to walk away but she gave chase, made him listen, called him names... oh he was violent that day too, not physically... but he released her tapes to the media...

chemistry all the time... explosive... changing elements. creating new things.

i enjoyed the fact that khushi fought back.but Khushi slapped his chest more than 1 time as well.

always.

i think that used to get him too... he somewhere liked it. he felt comfortable with thsi sparring partner... he could be who he was with her and she with him.Yes not with La who never fought with him...not exciting...Khushi was soft, tears etc until her lioness was aroused.

if they had explored further they might have found that he had his father's uncontrolled anger in him,(Dadi said this to him a few times) a side to him that instinctively unfurled in some situations... khushi was a complete "situation"... code red or whatever. 😆

just as he grabbed khushi and hurt her and then felt all hurt and upset about it himself... he also fought for lavanya's right to be respected in his home, even though she was not the marrying sort... he sat quietly with a hangover reliever for her after she had behaved pretty badly and gotten drunk on a very special night...awww

later after grabbing her and leaving marks, episode 302 i think, he asks her did i hurt you? she hurls back, yeah, but i am used to it by now. she doesn't whimper... she snarls... she knows the power she has over him, she knows she can handle him and he her... 👏

he behaved atrociously at times... she did too, when she hid a huge fact from him...

i would not call khushi an abject liar for that... i wouldn't think of him as manhandler.NAHIN!!! NO,NO,NO! HE IS, HE IS! CHECK DEFINITION AT INDU'S POST!

the only woman with whom he lost it like that, was khushi... and he regretted it every time... he couldn't even fathom his extreme reaction often... he needed her... and he perhaps hit out against that. i don't say that makes it alright... TRUE

this was their specific explosive chaotic love story. i do remember him slapping that businessman for speaking insultingly of his mother... and slapping an employer later for speaking loosely of khushi. hmmm...

but yes, i do think he had an anger problem and they might have delved into it.

if i had to choose between an always courteous, sweet man who loved me in a balanced sweet way and a man who hauled and pushed me at times but loved me to distraction, i know whom i would choose. but then i am a bad girl.You see Indi that is why this post and this scene bothered me so much...having the history of being abused by and idiot , I should be irate but instead I can acknowledge his behavior as manhandling, but what bothered me was how I adored this manhandler and even was attracted to the character of ASR, the dark one. I had to rationally decipher my own behavior as to the attraction. Still working on that, will let you know when I figure it out..

i feel in matters like this, we must let our instinct work and not just our "knowledge". it will guide us better as to what we will put up with and what we won't. shyam never manhandled or hit women...😡

cynthia, i know you are suffering... and perhaps working out things you have held in you for many years ... i was telling someone yesterday, more than anything else i feel the mind has an impact on health... way beyond all this exercise diet "be good" obsession of our times. when we feel extreme pain emotionally... trauma... sometimes it lodges within and destroys parts of us... or even when we block feelings... aren't in freeflow within...yup, I must say that I released all the ill feelings along time ago, had counseling and then released it again last year very very powerful healing but as my Chiropractor said to me yesterday that usuaually compression fractures occur at L4-L5 but since my occurred higher it was probably where that memory had settled and weakened that vertebrae sooo it just reminded me and being me took the bull by the horns and now will help other women who have been abused in whatever way as a Victim's Advocate. So my life lesson was learned and now I can impart my wisdom and help for other women...we DO survive and we DO NOT have to be victims!!!

lovely thought provoking post, sorry i went on.

Indi, the character of ASR is so attractive I think but his behavior no matter what the reason was never acceptable. The only saving grace I felt was his remorse, and he did have remorse. He felt her pain and until his heart softened with her love was when his behavior changed. He was a manhandler not an abuser in my eye. He did turn to mush. I want the old ASR with character and sharp edge knowing he has a heart of gold!

Absolutely lovely thoughts .I just want to add on if you see from the episode 1 without knowing him completely, yes he is manhandling her because this is what I thought but the more you explore his character, the more you find him the PERFECT and GOLDEN at heart.

Nice Post.👏

Originally posted by: apinky81

Absolutely lovely thoughts .I just want to add on if you see from the episode 1 without knowing him completely, yes he is manhandling her because this is what I thought but the more you explore his character, the more you find him the PERFECT and GOLDEN at heart.

Nice Post.👏

Hi Cynn, sorry to hear that yiu have hurt yourself, I hope that you are now having a speedy recovery, and continue to remain in good health.
I do agree with you here, Arnav did manhandle Khushi, I darent say this Shyam at the time treated her with more respect... However, I suspect the motives are one of self loathing, Arnav hating himself and confused at the same time, after all he was a boy,who was emotionally stunted, where as Shyam did it to gain her confidence.However, the clip showed him holding on to her even though she was crying, NO MAN should abuse his physical capabilty over a woman like that. Lets not forget she was supposed to be a naive 17/18 year old, who didnt understand what was going on at the time she must have been scared out of her mind.

It all changed when the truth was out and it almost bacame the other way. I cannot forgive him for treating Khushi the way he did after the elopement, making her sleep in the cold was torturous to watch, that with the unadulterated hate he felt for her at the time was so sad to see. Again I think he was battling with himself and what he had seen on the terrace and his own attraction towards her.

I watched the payal scene above and it and the whole episode reminded me how slick the show was, Baruns face of utter shock, hits me as to why he was wanted elsewhere. If only he had held out a bit more.. enough said me thinks especially as the only version of the film I'll get to watch will be on dvd...

Originally posted by: sohara

very thoughtful post cynthia and apparently one of the most discussed topic I guess.

as a girl of this generation I can say no girl endure physical or verbal abuse nowadays, no matter how good looking is the person. the tolerance level became very low amongst youngster. But khsuhi is different. her endurance sometimes surprised me. or can I say she already surrendered to her love, so she loved to be manhandled by her man!

ASR sure manhandled Khsuhi. he sure got anger disorder because of his turbulent past, but whenever he marked Khushi or pulled her towards him, all were outburst of his frustration. in the spur of the moment he did it, but the physical abuse he never did deliberately, except dropping her down from the first floor. though he knew there were boxes on the ground, but still it was manhandling. to throw her out from the bedroom on their wedding night and make her sleep on the stone floor in the cold night, is also a form of manhandling. he also did lot of verbal abuse or you can say disparagement. to call her characterless, home wrecker. covetous, low aukat larki (cheap girl) degraded her every now and then It was not manhandle but mental abuse. even how he forcefully married her without giving her a proper reason was also manhandling. as an adult individual she had right to know the fact. he just couldn't coerced her in a sacred bonding like marriage, just because of his sister. so wasn't he selfish!

But unfortunately Khushi loved his manhandling as if she knows he owns her and those bruise mark what he made was love bite for her. And in a lighter note i can say as long as Khsuhi is ok with this manhandling I don't have any problem.

or moreover I love angry hot man like ASR more than sweet talker Shyam.

I'm glad to know that you are working with abused women and helping them. Keep reading good stuffs and share your insight with us.