Originally posted by: indi52
arshihamesha, katelyn, sigrid, barundiwani, cinthiann, doc, risha, everyone
good morning, it's wonderful to catch up with you all here. interesting how ipk always takes us beyond the viewing into ourselves, into our thoughts, and how it seems to naturally connect to life all around.
about needing more asr's in our world. yes yes yes. i have always been stirred and thrilled by his mind set. and his attitude to most things. so he made ridiculous mistakes when he fell in love for the first time, but i can forgive that. because his heart was sorta shattered and good sense just flew away. happens to the best of us. and i am not so "good" that i am above it all.
never understood all the dislike this character was given. talk of him denigrating women. really? never ever did i sense it. paternalistic, yes. part of culture again. for example when he wants to set up something for khushi because in case he's not around he doesn't want her to be dependent on anyone. very progressive thought, delivered with that 'i'll solve it" male air. one can live with that, or if one doesn't like it and wants to make one's own decisions, one can say as much. i have felt that this is a guy who will appreciate your point of view, if you are honest, sincere, and you really mean what you say.
yes we have many kkg's. the kkg of the initial months, not the sp bahu. and we have several lavanyas, deep in their own way, going through the phases of finding oneself. i feel wonderful to be a part of this gang.
about those quotes. well for the past many months i used to hang out at the crooner thread, where the idea was analysis of episodes. beautiful main posts full of quotes, caps, interpretation. there are places where you feel a lovely poem or quote touches and enriches the moment. it's also a great excuse to fly all over the place. so...
have a super sunday.
haven't read the episode 20 takes. want to see first. then get all dreamy eyed and see your wonderful posts.
great points, yes i am in agreement with you.
all the women (other than khushi, i'll get to her in a minute) in his life were given proper respect by him.
Anjali was always on a pedastal, no need to elaborate on the respect he had for her "Di, aap meri puri duniya ho" (Di, you are my whole world)
To naani, in the begining he says "Main aap ki baat sununga zarur, khyun ki mein aapka aadar karta hun, par karunga woh hi, jo mujhe tick lagega"(I willl listen to what you have to say b/c i repect you, but will only do what i think is best)
Maami sold her jewlery so he could start his business, never forgetting that, he never deprived maami of all the things she wanted and always made sure she stayed happy. even staying quiet when she went overboard with her insults to the love of his life or Payal. during his kidnapping track, maami showed her attachement, they had a special bond.
Lavanya was not the love of his life and he knew it, but he still let her know that she is one of very few ppl who can waste his 10 minutes. when she moves into the RM, Naani had already made up her mind about her, and took every chance she got to insult her. Arnav stuck up for La, I remember him saying "Atleast she's trying!" and even ready to start bigger fight with naani for her, but Anjali was always able to tame him.
Now for Khushi,
as i mentioned before the only thing he did out of his character was when he pulls her dori in the begining. coming closer to try and intemidate her is one thing, but the actual act of pulling her dori...they were probably going for the shock factor, i wish he didn't do that. other than that scene, when i think back to everything he did to khushi (Pre-forcewedding) was either out his frustrations that he couldn't control his feeling for her OR that she dared to defy him. after she resigns, he tries countless times to talk to her to explain his unawareness about the condition of the guest house, but she always turns her back and runs away...ASR wasn't used to this. By the time destiny brings them together again at Shyam and Anjali's anniversary party, ...This girl took over his mind, she will not listen to what he has to say, even when he catches her in his closet, she runs away, yes, he had enough, so he showed it by yelling/insulting her when his Di hires her to work in his house with the condition that she only comes and leaves when he is not around.
During Payash's wedding his realization that his heart and soul can't survive with out her, he does all he can to let her know that he is not a monster. "kya thi woh line? aathon paher dil pe hai taalen, (clenches his teeth and repeats) aathon paher dil pe hai taalen" letting her know he was hurt by that line and then doing teri meri and then helping her with serving the guests at the Gupta house...they were beautifully falling falling falling for eachother...until his heart shattered into a billion peices. again his anger, brotherly instinct and a broken heart got the worst of him and made a horrible mistake that he regrets later on. before the remarriage he drove to Khushi's house and sat her down and apoligized for EVERY SINGLE time he hurt her. some say that wasn't enough, but his actions post kidnapping for Khushi...believing her over shyam, taking the tea tray out of her shaky hands and assuring her that nothing is her fault, doing all he can just to see her smiling even taking advise from NK anrd recreateds their time spent together. my personal favorite: he says to Daadi "Jahan meri patni nahi aa sakti, muhe nahi laga vaha meri zarurat hai" and when Buaji is about to slap her " Apni patni ko haat lagaane haq maine kisi do nahi diya, thapad maarna to door ki baat hai"👏👏👏
He never tried to impose his ideas or controlled any of the women in his life...when Lavanya was trying to be "the perfect desi wife", he didn't like that, "Be youself, you don't need to change for me" "since when do you need my permission?" were some of things he said. so i never thought he was degrading women. some of the hate scenes for me were the most passionate, his deep feelings and his deep hurt were sheilded for everyone, but Khushi saw right through him, so even she didn't blame him once she got to know him better. she wore her dupatta funny when his finger prints gaced her arms from him holding them so tightly...she didn't want anyone to know...not even payal.
well i think i'm getting carried away...when it come to Arnav, there is just no stopping me!! anyway you get my point, atleast for me his hatred towards Khushi is justified and later forgiven by his apology and his actions. I feel better now, its out of my system. more ASRs in the world would be awsome, preferably as good looking too!😉
Edited by BarunDiwani - 12 years ago
Bade Achche Lagte Hain Naya Season
Cricket
267