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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: jpatel1289

I agree with you that the apology didn't hit the mark but my feeling is that what's going to be revealed about his and Khushi's past will lead him to a more self-realization that his apology was lacking today. In the past 320 episodes he has done things to her and said things to her that makes today's feel like the tip of the iceberg. The day the contract marriage comes out and the reaction of both families makes him realize what a gem he has is the day we will see the real heartfelt apology. I honestly don't think the CVs should let him get away with a watered down version... If he can go to the middle of the road and cry on the road for his Di then why the hell can't he do that for his one and only love?!


My take is this:

1. If they show that he has learned to "feel" for her "suffering" because of him -- then the apology will be strong.

Now going back to the contract marriage coming out and some more humiliation of Khushi before that event etc just makes the whole thing a completely "diluted" thing from an emotional strength stand point.

He they had dedicated some time to make sure that they were "truly" a couple now that they understand each other, then anything that comes out and whatever they showed, it was going to be "absolutely fine". Even if some people called Khushi names and he came to defend her at that time, we will understand why he is doing it because "he understands another person" now and he is not doing the defending for "himself" and his ego.

Currently whatever we see now and his defense etc feels more like him "defending his ego" rather than her honor.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: godhuli12

Yes it did not hit the mark .. i would say 50%..
i was in a bit apprehensive mood after the episode..
Why I could not feel the apology? Or is it that I already guessed this scene ?
Or the direction or what?

this could be something epic.. sigh..

it seems it was all rushed to give an apology..
So here my question was: was this sorry commendable in every aspects? No..actually not at all..

It is a bit sad that CVs and we missed the chance once forever.. This is done.. gone..

So just hoping next episodes they would show arnav standing by her in her any disgraced situation ...


Yep an opportunity has been lost in making this something special. However the beauty of this "daily show" format is, they can create an opportunity for themselves again.

They can make it something he is doing under the umbrella of "I am creating a better environment for my wife" and really work on some "substantive" actions -- I thought buying pearls and chana was a start but looks like that was IT!!! But I am not sure they want to do this -- they are now going to show that Khushi and her family are related to his past and his suffering.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13
What u said is perfectly right but I feel theres some other reason to it too :

They didnt want ASR to apologize in the first place rather it seemed sort of forced to me - may be to just increase the trps & to pacify the fans

Yes ppl think im wrong thats the feeling i got from the scene. Because when it came to His Mahan Di the scene had more intensity in (comparison to the arhi scene) when it was nearly not required. When its Khushi the intensity seems forced. One more difference i found is the Di scene was quite long Khushi scene was quite short.

They need to understand their audience is smart to see this difference. It may not go unnoticed.

The realization at RM had more power in comparison.

Edited by Harshitha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maverick29


Yep! somehow they seem to have just lost the ability to make people feel for the show.

The fundamental strength of the show was "they made us feel for the people". Honestly Khushi could easily be my family member and it is her story -- that is how I felt -- they were showing a story of someone I cared about because these people were so real.

But now, the intensity, the beauty, the whole thing is becoming "thin".

Cheers.

Well any sort of constructive criticism is being "NAMED" as bashing out here.. Still I would say, with due respect to Mr. Barun Sobti, once he returned after a well deserved break of around 40 days, there was a lot expectations from him...at least similar expectation that we had till pre Kidnapping phase if not more. We literally Live and Breath ASR through his portrayal..But once he returned,I personally have felt that somehow he is being unable to connect to his onscreen character and it's demands anymore...at the 1st place I was confused about the possible reason behind this lack of attachment, but somehow I found it out I guess as it's not very hard...But let's not get into that as I will be subjective to loads of bashing by Sobti fans..Ironically since the very beginning I myself have been a Sobti admirer, hence all these changes actually hurt me in the beginning. Along with inconsistency in the direction, scripting,screenplay, his portrayal has also been a major let down in last one month according to me except in few scenes...Somehow his portrayal through eyes, facial expression, intensity, passion which he used to do previously through his eyes and body language... there is something amiss..!! How??...well I may know, but Why?? is a million dollar question which I guess will be left unanswered...
Edited by monalisa1234 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harshitha

What u said is perfectly right but I feel theres some other reason to it too :


They didnt want ASR to apologize in the first place rather it seemed sort of forced to me - may be to just increase the trps & to pacify the fans

Yes ppl think im wrong thats the feeling i got from the scene. Because when it came to His Mahan Di the scene had much more intensity when it was nearly not required. When its Khushi the intensity seems forced. One more difference i found is the Di scene was quite long Khushi scene was quite short.

They need to understand their audience is smart to see this difference. It may not go unnoticed.

The realization at RM had more power in comparison.


Absolutely correct!

I dont think anyone even felt anything when he was sitting in front of his Di. It sounded more like Anjali was going looney and he was doing everything in his power to stop that looney tunes from going off the reservation.

Yep compared to today's apology his "flashbacks" were more powerful -- may be because they stirred up the emotions in us -- because we "felt" for them during those scenes.

I dont understand the PH and the CV apathy towards this show! It has to be because of "dilution" of team and effort.

The director is crap, the writers are doling out more crap ..

It is unfair to the lead pair -- their popularity SOARED. But if this dies in a Whimper they whole thing will collapse and their careers will not take off like they would have hoped.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The fact tht it came so late into the picture already faded half the impact. Also i felt the scene was too short..dun noe why CV's always rush with arhi scenes while the other non imp stuff gets dragged. So for me it was definitely not up to the mark.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maverick29


Absolutely correct!

I dont think anyone even felt anything when he was sitting in front of his Di. It sounded more like Anjali was going looney and he was doing everything in his power to stop that looney tunes from going off the reservation.

Yep compared to today's apology his "flashbacks" were more powerful -- may be because they stirred up the emotions in us -- because we "felt" for them during those scenes.

I dont understand the PH and the CV apathy towards this show! It has to be because of "dilution" of team and effort.

The director is crap, the writers are doling out more crap ..

It is unfair to the lead pair -- their popularity SOARED. But if this dies in a Whimper they whole thing will collapse and their careers will not take off like they would have hoped.

Cheers.


all i would say is i pray for less trps or rather stagnant trps - to teach them a lesson - that Di bhoot still hasnt gone for sure

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harshitha

What u said is perfectly right but I feel theres some other reason to it too :


They didnt want ASR to apologize in the first place rather it seemed sort of forced to me - may be to just increase the trps & to pacify the fans

Yes ppl think im wrong thats the feeling i got from the scene. Because when it came to His Mahan Di the scene had much more intensity when it was nearly not required. When its Khushi the intensity seems forced. One more difference i found is the Di scene was quite long Khushi scene was quite short.

They need to understand their audience is smart to see this difference. It may not go unnoticed.

The realization at RM had more power in comparison.

I agree with u completely.. This apology was just to pacify the audience.. It was never in their script to show his guilt phase I guess.. When the CVs realized that the drop in the TRPs could be bcoz the audience was rooting for a redemption track, they just squeezed yest scene..
I dont have a problem with them showing a long scene b/n ASR n Anji baby but that scene too was not upto the mark.. At least it didnt click for me.. But Khushi forgiving easily-- many had problem with her forgiving so easily.. But I can completely understand that.. She loves him-- its easy to forgive som1 u r in love with.. N they always showed her as a character who never holds a grudge.. But I think since she is in love its easy for her to forget n forgive whatever he has done to her.. But a more intense guilt scene from Arnav's side is required..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harshitha


all i would say is i pray for less trps or rather stagnant trps - to teach them a lesson - that Di bhoot still hasnt gone for sure

You don't need to pray for the same Harshitha..It's never gonna increase in this lifetime, given this type of treatment towards the lead couple...Cvs hardly bother even if the show is being kicked out by channel.. They have their other ventures which will temporarily help them relish their victory..But amidst all these, We...The poor fans end up being the sole sufferer..
Edited by monalisa1234 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monalisa1234

Well any sort of constructive criticism is being "NAMED" as bashing out here.. Still I would say, with due respect to Mr. Barun Sobti, once he returned after a well deserved break of around 40 days, there was a lot expectations from him...at least similar expectation that we had till pre Kidnapping phase if not more. We literally Live and Breath ASR through his portrayal..But once he returned,I personally have felt that somehow he is being unable to connect to his onscreen character and it's demands anymore...at the 1st place I was confused about the possible reason behind this lack of attachment, but somehow I found it out I guess as it's not very hard...But let's not get into that as I will be subjective to loads of bashing by Sobti fans..Ironically since the very beginning I myself have been a Sobti admirer, hence all these changes actually hurt me in the beginning. Along with inconsistency in the direction, scripting,screenplay, his portrayal has also been a major let down in last one month according to me except in few scenes...Somehow his portrayal through eyes, facial expression, intensity, passion which he used to do previously through his eyes and body language... there is something amiss..!! How??...well I may know, but Why?? is a million dollar question which I guess will be left unanswered...


Yep the forum for a long time has been some kind of shrine. But I have constantly said what I thought -- no matter who was going to try to label me! So, let us do it openly.

Yep, there is a problem with the whole crew because they got out of the Grove they were in. In any situation, once you get in the zone you can continue things. Once it falls off and you have made statements like "I think bollywood is the next step", or a statement like "I have not decided if I am coming back to the show" or "I think anyone can play ASR" despite all justifications has an impact on the show.

We dont blame him -- he was thinking about his future as an actor.

Now the biggest mistake which is never accepted by anyone and the so called fans go back to defending the PH as if they are responsible for the Defense of those morons -- disturbing a "perfect" combo and sending away Lalit Mohan.

When Rima talked about it I heard some of the people on the forum going after her saying "not this LM stuff again, the show is great we need to worry about the TRPS". Honestly viewers thinking about ways to enhance TRPs is ASININE.

The best we can do is "give them the best feedback" we can. How the hell do these people think they can "increase" the TRPs and what moronic thinking is it? Are we producers of the show or are we in anyway able to have an impact other than telling people openly what we like and what we dont???

In any case, what people on the forum label others doesnt matter. We can help the show by providing clear pointers on failure. If that reaches the morons and they understand and fix it, their show will Soar. If not it will go down the drain like now.

It is still better than other crap but the pace it which it is falling, it will soon lose that tag of being the "best of the Junk on Indian TV".

Cheers.

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