Splash! - Page 3

Originally posted by: --Amulya--

I respect you for these words and all others who are in the same tone. I totally agree that change should rise within us. I'm giving you a small example here, I follow K-pop and recently a song was released in which a female idol was kissed forcefully to which she later consents and kisses back, there was so much much backlash for this scene that they had to cut it down... We girls should stop accepting even a single bad word against us let alone physical or emotional violence. I say this isn't feminism, its rather trying and telling to be humans and all it needs is a bit humanity to understand others.

I'm a Karate black belt holder and so not at all meek/tender, I keep thinking "Are girls really so weak that they can't punch back!!" whenever I watch these type of shows or maybe its the society which made girls in that way. In reality most girls do't even realise an abuse unless it crosses all the limits. I hope this changes and TV being a mass communication medium definitely holds this responsibility.

Originally posted by: twerping

Thank you for that legal definition of what abuse consists of. Gul and her writers should read this. That scene where Shivay physically bullied Anika will be one of the lowest moments in the writing of this show. Him threatening her could have been shown in any number of ways. The fact that they showed him throwing her around, hauling her up by her hair, etc. is typical of a certain mentality that allows men to so easily resort to physical strength as a way of imposing their dominance on women they think of as their property-be it their wives, sisters or daughters.

And I am not a fan of 50,shades but still want to say one thing. There is a difference between physical.bullying and bondage. In the latter, I think both partners consent to it and have safe words and so on to stop themselves if either goes to a limit that the other finds uncomfortable. What we saw on screen was nothing of the sort and must not be read as such. The fact that the CVs made Shivay act that way is something for which I cannot forgive them.

And going through the posts, I am even more disappointed in Gul. To think that as a woman she has such an opinion of feminism and feminists is truly saddening.

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

@bold: THIS!!! TV and film hold so much power over people, they're constantly influencing us, and always in a good way. Like you said, it's responsibility to teach us what perhaps parents and teachers could not. Instead, they're trying to make it seem like submissive women and abusive men are the norms of society, they're trying to make this seem like a romantic thing, when it's not, it's just wrong on so many levels. I don't want other girls and women, especially young, impressionable girls, to think that this behavior from men is okay. IT'S NOT OKAY! And the media is trying to make it seem like it is, when they're supposed to be a positive influence on people, people trust them.

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

Diya(if it's ur name), u sud see d comments on various Ishaqbaaaz related photos n videos on Insta' s search column. A girl even commented dat we girls like to be held like dis by men. Did comment was on d photo where Shivaay was holding Anika 4m back stopping her 4m going near d fire. People r going crazy over d hug wid background music calling dat hug as comforting n consoling n wat not. How can dat hug be good wen one of them actually threatened to kill her brother n even creating khauff in her mind by making a car blast making her believe dat he killed her brother. Gul is whitewashing Shivaay wish dat hug which others r calling it beautiful n saying dat ge was consoling her n all. I saw such scenes in many shows(widout d hug of course) but those were strictly between villain n heroine. If it was a movie or shows 4m 90s or 2000s then Anika wud have been paired wid another guy not Shivaay.

Originally posted by: foreverlazy

Diya's my name, no worries. And that is just disgusting, like I can't. I don't understand how Gul as a woman can show this on screen, it actually makes me want to cry. There was this one scene with my favorite couple, where the girl kisses the guy when he's having a panic attack, and people went crazy! Like, no! If someone is on the verge of a breakdown or something like that, you're not even really supposed to touch the person. It's all about soothing, comforting words. Kissing someone who is having a panic attack is not romantic, it is borderline dangerous, and I know it's not as serious as abuse or murder, but I don't understand how people can manage to romanticize that.

Originally posted by: Anjum.

Brace yourselves girls, because your'e about to be hit with a big glass of ice cold reality.

Let's get one thing straight. Yesterday, Annika was assaulted by Shivaay. I know, I know, it's a pretty big accusation. But let's look at the facts. Here's the US definition of assault: "An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort, and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability."

So when someone puts their hands on you or grabs you when you do not want them to, that is assault.

The presence of this is undeniable. Shivaay repeatedly put his hands on Annika, swung her around and threw her on a bed and on the floor. He was aggressive and threatening. He also implied that if she did not comply with his demands, he would remove her clothes and force her to do as he said. That would be viewed as sexual assault in the US.

So basically, yesterday we saw a male character physically assault a female character and, if that wasn't enough, he blatantly threatened to sexually assault her.

Along with seeing these actions take place, we saw it in the context of romantic music. It was not "scary" or "action-type" music, it was the romantic theme that we usually saw used for when the hero would rescue the heroine, or when both would stare at each other with genuine love and care. Playing a romantic track with such violence implies that this, too, is a romantic moment. So when people accuse the show of romanticizing/normalizing violence, this is what they're talking about.

As viewers of the show, we should remember that the normalization of violence is a real concern for women (and men, for that matter) and a painful issue for victims of domestic and sexual abuse, and it should be a genuine concern for all of us.

It's pretty obvious what my opinion is on the matter. Call me a feminist if you like, but please, if you do, explain to me exactly ( and I do mean in very clear terms) what is so wrong about being a feminist in the first place?

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

Really? Which show was dat? D problem is dat people can't see strong women but can tolerate d men Howe jerk they are. There is a historical show on d same channel where d heroine is shown as a grey character who is not a regular sweet n innocent heroine. She is even shown wanting to kill d hero for a strong reason. Many people don't want to accept her opposite d hero. Dat heroine is hated like anything. Only few people supports dat heroine. If dat heroine was a male people wud have gone crazy over him n justified all his actions no matter how wrong they are like SSO is justified here for water he is doing here. People don't want to accept a badass heroine but d same people support such hero. I am really for cvs making dat heroine weak n bechaari to satisfy her haters which I don't want. In dis forum only, Ishaana was hated so much n called names n people have lectures on how her family problems r not excuses of her actions n she cud do some good job for money. What happened to those lectures now ? People r supporting Shivaay wid family love n reputation excuse but did not d same for Ishaana. Why? Just cuz Shivaay is a man n Ishaana is a woman.

Originally posted by: AvantikaP

I will be a living disgrace to women if I don't agree to what you have said. SSO actions were totally abusive. Okay his bride to be ran away, why couldn't he face everyone like a man...afterall he is man with lineage, good blood etc etc etc.

No matter how rich or handsome or famous (or all 3 combined) I would hate a man who treats any women like SSO did. I don't want anyone to be treated like Annika.

I am a feminist and am proud to be one