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Agree with all your points except for the 5th one, I agree partially there. What Ishana countered today is 'not giving back' it's the wrong way to interpret it, what she did today was being combative which ended up holding the mirror to the reality. I have never been a fan of Ishaana and the way the character was excited, that's why agree with all your 4 points but 5th one I differ. Why should she be like Anika and not bring out Om's family? She is different person, actually today for the first time her character of being grey was justified. Anika is rigtheous, so she kept her fight only to Shivaay even though Shivaay went down to drag in her family but every other girl doesn't have to be Anika, if Ishana did the same then where is the grey shade in her?

What Ishana did today was in her character today for the first time, Om hurt her and she hurt him back, the right or wrong doesn't matter there, only the motive matters, she is supposed to be aggressive and combatant without setting certain limits unlike Anika, who is aggressive, combative at the same time sets some limits and doesn't cross them, example, she didn't encourage Sahil to disrespect bua, she let bua in despite what she has done to her, Ishana isn't supposed to be so. It's ironical that people expect Ishana to be not like Anika and have grey shades but when she shows exactly that then people complain 😕

Amidst all she did accept she is wrong and she is aware of it, doesn't this make her unapologetic? Which is what a grey woman supposed to be? Initially she said sorry because she respects Om and is aware that he is a clean soul, I didn't expect her to say sorry because it's out of the character but like the majboori, poverty, poor having no choice etc dramatics this sorry too was melo-dramatic to show she is rigtheous but trapped in the situations. But once she retorted back upon Om's family remark, she was absoulately in the character, the character which wasn't excuted well till now, she was combative and unapologetic, if I my family is wrong then yours is no good, in the process she ended up speaking the bitter truths to which Oberoi's are pretending to be blind, that's why as she went on Rudra and Shivaay both had glimpse of guilt on their faces. Ishana is no white like Om or Anika, she is grey and what she spoke was totally justifying the trait. If they continue to keep her like this then I may end up liking Ishana.

Originally posted by: Actomyo

Agree with all your points except for the 5th one, I agree partially there. What Ishana countered today is 'not giving back' it's the wrong way to interpret it, what she did today was being combative which ended up holding the mirror to the reality. I have never been a fan of Ishaana and the way the character was excited, that's why agree with all your 4 points but 5th one I differ. Why should she be like Anika and not bring out Om's family? She is different person, actually today for the first time her character of being grey was justified. Anika is rigtheous, so she kept her fight only to Shivaay even though Shivaay went down to drag in her family but every other girl doesn't have to be Anika, if Ishana did the same then where is the grey shade in her?

What Ishana did today was in her character today for the first time, Om hurt her and she hurt him back, the right or wrong doesn't matter there, only the motive matters, she is supposed to be aggressive and combatant without setting certain limits unlike Anika, who is aggressive, combative at the same time sets some limits and doesn't cross them, example, she didn't encourage Sahil to disrespect bua, she let bua in despite what she has done to her, Ishana isn't supposed to be so. It's ironical that people expect Ishana to be not like Anika and have grey shades but when she shows exactly that then people complain 😕

Amidst all she did accept she is wrong and she is aware of it, doesn't this make her unapologetic? Which is what a grey woman supposed to be? Initially she said sorry because she respects Om and is aware that he is a clean soul, I didn't expect her to say sorry because it's out of the character but like the majboori, poverty, poor having no choice etc dramatics this sorry too was melo-dramatic to show she is rigtheous but trapped in the situations. But once she retorted back upon Om's family remark, she was absoulately in the character, the character which wasn't excuted well till now, she was combative and unapologetic, if I my family is wrong then yours is no good, in the process she ended up speaking the bitter truths to which Oberoi's are pretending to be blind, that's why as she went on Rudra and Shivaay both had glimpse of guilt on their faces. Ishana is no white like Om or Anika, she is grey and what she spoke was totally justifying the trait. If they continue to keep her like this then I may end up liking Ishana.

Originally posted by: loveispure

Great pov👍🏼

Thanks 😊

Hey...great post. Agree with all your points. Got really irritated with Ishaana giving back scene and majboori. Creatives were always confused with her storyline now it seems they are nothe able to come out of it... did they really had to give her BG music and maha dramatic exit? (She has not done anything great)

^ I got agree with that even I feel the same all 3 girls goes overboard at times.

Originally posted by: Meself

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A much needed
post on today's rolling Noor that was falsely hailed as content on its
superlative track. I for one hated today's unfolding and the last string that
had kept me simmer on Ishana is broken as well. Sorry but this woman is dead and
buried to me. I no longer look at her and she doesn't exist in my world.

I had
hoped that Vrushika's performance would help me tame that disappointment but
she started out good only to end as a failed attempt. She brought back memories
of a hounding order and I am sorry everything on this front is simply destroyed
for me. I am not an ardent fan of any fandom here. I am here for my ObBros and
will remain here solely for them. This ship of Ishkara has drowned for me and
no revival on this front can now happen.

On your first
point, a grey woman for Om.

A grey woman was
what the majority of us wanted for Om. His clam, serene nature meeting a
violent ruthlessness was all of us had been selling our votes on. Sadly it
never saw the daylight on that front. We were promised one thing and delivered
another and this violent shoving of the contents down my throat is something I
cannot tolerate. A con-artist was a welcomed treat. They are intelligent people
who pry on the gullible victims and once their act is over they kill their remorse
and move on. So was Ishana anywhere near this one definition? The answer is NO.
She never was a character that one could put under the radar of being grey. She
was never someone whom you'd truly enjoy because she was half baked. Ever heard
her plans? Ever heard her reasons to pick Om over Rudra? Ever seen her in a
consistent avatar? Ever actually connected to all that she transpired until
tonight? If yes, then one would actually understand what I have been speaking
on this front. Her Bela/Mela nonsense was something that put it in the fore
front that her character swings from A to B just like that. Just by saying that
she is a con doesn't work. You need to work on that make it work. The concept
of having a con opposite an honest Om was fantastic sadly the kind of con
destroyed it for all us. (Or for one major section surely)

On your second
point of majboori.

This is what
destroyed the character to a point that redemption of the same is now
impossible. Let us go back to her introductory episode. She was so happy at
having conned Om and Rudra. She was salivating at the prospect of minting more
money out of the two. Next her dialogues where she herself confesses that she'll
enjoying cheating Om and emptying his bank balance. So what was the need of
that majboori anyways? And it isn't that she has conned for he first time that
she should have felt the pangs of guilt in her to go that way. Agreed that the
first time it must have been difficult for her but after that she is here out
of her own free will. And even after her father being a serial offender, gambling
away the money on booze and poker, she hasn't taken a stance against that. That
is stupid on her part because after having seen the dangers up close she hasn't
run away or seek help. There are institutions helping women caught in distress.
If she indeed was forced into something such as these she could have asked for
help and not remained in this profession that she pretends is not good. Leave
this if it is indeed eating away her dignity. Om was right when he said that
truth is a choice. Om has been through hell. He has seen what abyss truly looks
and feels like and he chose to get out. He chose to side with truth and now is
sticking to the same. Truth has nothing to do with your financial status. It is
a choice influenced by upbringing. Om has been brought up well and he chose to
stick with the truth than side with lies. Ishana is sticking with the lies and blaming
it on the poor financial status of hers. If her logic is anything to go by then
all the poor section of society would have turned into cheats or dacoits which
is not true. So her majboori doesn't make sense to me at all. She sticks to her
sets of lies and when they are out in the open she lashes out on one and all.

On your third
point of her being compared to Anika.

Well we do not
want another Anika, yes but the comparison is bound to happen as both have
faced a very similar situation. Both were stranded under difficult
circumstances and do belong to the poor section of the society. But the approach
of the two is simply different. One chose honesty and decided to make do with
whatever little she has while the other chose to side with lies and found
happiness in that as well. Anika too must have had debts on her, but she didn't
retort to selling off her integrity and began cheating people. Ishana is wrong
here. There is always a choice, yes sometimes life isn't so merciful as to
provide you with one but here it is not the case of that. Ishana had a choice
and still has one. But she wants to be a part of that cheating brigade so who
is she to cry thievery now? Blaming it on poverty won't help simply because
even in poverty one can be dignified on their stand . Anika did it so what was
so difficult for Ishana to follow the same?

On your fourth
point that compares Tej and Ishana's father.

I am sorry but
even with his negativities Tej is far better a man than the one Ishana calls
her father. Tej might have never played a better son, husband or a father but
he has certainly never exposed his kids to direct dangers. Om fell into that
dark pit because his pain was too overwhelming and drugs felt an easy escape
but even after that situation we've seen Tej care for his sons. He wants Om to
turn a bit ruthless, he wants him to take up the empire but not at the cost of
losing him forever. Ishana's father has been practically pushing his daughters
to dangers. He is constantly exposing the harsh light on them so how is it that
he is a better man or a better father for that matter? Tej cares for his sons,
in whatever twisted way but he does that, this Pappa of Ishana doesn't. That I
guess should be self-explanatory.

And lastly your
fifth point of Ishana giving it back to Om.

A big NO on that
front. Who is she to cry wolf now when she had been the one to strike Om first?
She was the one who came up with her nonsense in the first place and her entire
family played an active role in the same. So why any of the three should be
spared? Om didn't drag her family into this mess they were already into the
thick of it. The Oberois however unscrupulous they may be haven't destroyed
anyone by playing on their psyche or emotions. Whatever issues were there with
Ashok isn't the matter for Ishana to look at. Shivaay being a calculative man
doesn't have anything to do with her simply because that is how business works.
His job finishes at the professional front, he doesn't drag his opponents shit
for the world to see. Rudra's life is none of her concern because whatever
happens between him and the girls he stays with is consensual and mutual. He
doesn't ravage them or violates them. So how were any of her argument valid on
this stage? Her family is the offender along with her and there is no denying
that. Her rants had nothing substantial at all. Just because she couldn't prove
her innocence she resorted to flinging dirt at the others. None of rants made
sense to me nor did her explanations. Oberois, however they are, haven't
stooped to the lows like playing with the sentiments. She did. Tej's affair or
his scandalous are not her concern, if the family is okay with it who is she to
raise the alarm? If the no one blames Shivaay or Rudra for their behavior the
who is she to point out the same? Ishana is failed thing and it was the
blabbering of a failed person with no depth or meaning at all.

Ishana could
have been a revelation but is sadly just another dot on the place and try as
much you want, you cannot erase the same. I kind of hate her more. Previously
it was directed at the mockery of her profession and now at the total package.
I would sincerely want a character that is brilliantly written and has all
elements of successful characterization opposite Om. Best would be if they can
remove the traces of such a half baked stuff and give us something we can truly
enjoy. Either ways this love story is moving nowhere.

P.S. I laud you for putting this up here. This was a much needed thing.👏

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Take a bow superwoman...

Originally posted by: Meha101

Hey...great post. Agree with all your points. Got really irritated with Ishaana giving back scene and majboori. Creatives were always confused with her storyline now it seems they are nothe able to come out of it... did they really had to give her BG music and maha dramatic exit? (She has not done anything great)

I think the cv's want to show women power in the story so all female leads go overboard in certain scenes...with takar and all that. But cv's also want to create sympathy so bringing in the tried and tested majboori angle for each female leads..

agree with u girl ...dat BG and dat Ott exit didn't fit at all ...guess there's after all no redemption for dis. character

This is a bang on post. I agree with everything you have to say.

Originally posted by: Actomyo

Agree with all your points except for the 5th one, I agree partially there. What Ishana countered today is 'not giving back' it's the wrong way to interpret it, what she did today was being combative which ended up holding the mirror to the reality. I have never been a fan of Ishaana and the way the character was excited, that's why agree with all your 4 points but 5th one I differ. Why should she be like Anika and not bring out Om's family? She is different person, actually today for the first time her character of being grey was justified. Anika is rigtheous, so she kept her fight only to Shivaay even though Shivaay went down to drag in her family but every other girl doesn't have to be Anika, if Ishana did the same then where is the grey shade in her?

What Ishana did today was in her character today for the first time, Om hurt her and she hurt him back, the right or wrong doesn't matter there, only the motive matters, she is supposed to be aggressive and combatant without setting certain limits unlike Anika, who is aggressive, combative at the same time sets some limits and doesn't cross them, example, she didn't encourage Sahil to disrespect bua, she let bua in despite what she has done to her, Ishana isn't supposed to be so. It's ironical that people expect Ishana to be not like Anika and have grey shades but when she shows exactly that then people complain 😕

Amidst all she did accept she is wrong and she is aware of it, doesn't this make her unapologetic? Which is what a grey woman supposed to be? Initially she said sorry because she respects Om and is aware that he is a clean soul, I didn't expect her to say sorry because it's out of the character but like the majboori, poverty, poor having no choice etc dramatics this sorry too was melo-dramatic to show she is rigtheous but trapped in the situations. But once she retorted back upon Om's family remark, she was absoulately in the character, the character which wasn't excuted well till now, she was combative and unapologetic, if I my family is wrong then yours is no good, in the process she ended up speaking the bitter truths to which Oberoi's are pretending to be blind, that's why as she went on Rudra and Shivaay both had glimpse of guilt on their faces. Ishana is no white like Om or Anika, she is grey and what she spoke was totally justifying the trait. If they continue to keep her like this then I may end up liking Ishana.

Hello 😊

I am typing this from my tab so, sorry for any typos, dear. I'll keep it short.

First of all, just because we want a grey character means we cannot complain when said character does something stupid? Even if she had been what is considered grey (because, as I mentioned in my post, Ishana is flawed but please, she is not grey, that is a joke) and had done what Ishana did in the last episode, I would have criticised her.

The comparison to Anika does not happen because I want her to be like Anika, as I again mentioned in my post, but because Ishana kept harping nonsense about how poor people don't have a choice and cannot be honest - we don't even have to go to real life to prove her wrong, the example is already in the show. That's the only reason why comparisons are bound to happen - her justification was lame.

As for the apologizing part - she didn't do that 'cause she necessarily accepted she was wrong otherwise, she wouldn't have immediately started to justify herself. Hadn't she brought up poor and rich and family name, Om wouldn't have retaliated, either. And as others mentioned, had she done her research properly, she would have known what to say and what not to say in this situation.

Also, as for the part where she "utters some truths" - what new thing did she exactly tell him? Those dialogues were all sorts of messed up which makes her lashing out like this look even less understandable. I mean, the Ashok incident - Om was the one unhappy with how that was handled, he and Shivaay even fought over it. Whatever she told him, Om is not "blind" to it - what does she think why the guy isn't involved in the family business? Why he doesn't want to be associated with the Oberoi name? It looked even lamer because Ishana and her family were in the wrong; had the Oberois done something to her personally or had Om been really blind to all of this and blindly loved and defended his family her dialogue might have been digestible. Heck, he didn't even say anything when she brought up Tej because unlike her, he can call out his father on his mistakes and knows that Tej is wrong, he only lost it when she said he would end up like him. (On this note, Shivaay didn't look guilty when she brought him up, unnecessarily, and even Rudra looked more uncomfortable/hurt than guilty, imo. They didn't have any real reason to be guilty, after all.)

The execution was just... bad, imo. Justifying her actions because she is poor and then, her "uttering of truthts" which was nothing new to Om made it look all kinds of messed up. To me, she didn't react like a grey character but a wounded cat who couldn't take it to be called out on her errors and thus, had to throw mud on others to feel better. Whether it was in character or not, I have no idea because as of now, I don't know what her character is like.

Thanks for your comment, though. Guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one 😳

Originally posted by: confusedsoul.

This is a bang on post. I agree with everything you have to say.

My Question:

She talks about majboori and poverty. However, what happened to the 40 lakhs they got from the car? That is a pretty large amount of money. On the other hand, I did miss a few episodes so if something did happen there, please do let me know.

Her father gambled most of it away like usual 🥱

Thank you!