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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Nureat: I havn't read the posts that talk about Gulaal-kesar chemistry yet. I watch the show and form my opinions on what i see on screen and not necessarily what i expect from the writers next. So far the writers creativity is not is providing shock value by showing Gulaal marrying a 12 yr old child. Actually if you watch the episodes prior to and afterwards you see the emphasis was barely on the issue of an older woman marrying a child. Since the beginning unless you read the articles you would not imagine that Kesar and Gulaal would be linked together. If you as most viewers in India were to watch the show daily on tV without an insight into the future tracks, you would see the progression of the story, the growth in the lead character of Gulaal and why she did what she did. The relationship between Gulaal and Kesar would be seen in a very different light if you were to watch the show only. It is only recently, once Kesar started asking questions and was sent to boarding school and now that he is back (episodes spanning withing the last few weeks of Gulaal) that the issues of the evolving relationship between a pre-pubic Kesar and an adult Gulaal was focused on. And it is only now post leap that Kesar as a changed person (a grown man) has introduced a new angle to the story. So far the writers of this show have maintained the integrity of the characters. Gulaal especially being central to the whole story must remain morally intact if the show must retain its status as a morally conscious show and not join the list of Bandini, BV or Laado etc. Till date Gulaal has been a woman who has bravely fought every adversity. No one could ever force her to do anything against her will. The only compulsion she has been under is to marry Kesar to save his life. That too was a temporary solution for her until Kesar's future and life was secure. So i don't see a situation where she will be forced to accept Kesar as husband under any circumstances. Her feelings changing towards him also seem unlikely. Because if she was that kind of a person, and had the inclination to be with a man other than Vasant, then she would have chosen Dushyant already. Yes when he first made a proposal it was indecent, yes he kidnapped and almost tried to rape her into submission but she forgave him after all that. She forgave him Vasant's murder. And Dushyant over the past 8 years must have given her enough reason to believe he was a changed a man. So if she wanted another life, she would have chosen him already. But Gulaal's character won't let her be with another man. If she changes that stance...i'd like to see what compels her to that degree. And the creativity of the writers will be seen in the way they can convince me without doubt that this was a natural thing to happen. If they don't then Gulaal will join the list of other shows that have bit the dust on the same grounds.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suki11

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The reason people were after kesar's life was because of property he had under his name. But upon 'marriage' even if he died all his property would go to gulaal, so therefore any attempts on his life for reasons of greed were useless.
Anyway I think you're missing my main points, gulaal/kesar marriage is illegal, it is not validated in any way and she's extremely lucky that she hasn't been hurled off to jail, along with the rest of the family for condoning this crime. Because that's what it is, regardless of what you or I think as believe it not to some extent my sympathies do lie with gulaal as she has horribly mistreated by both people and life in general IMO. So simply put they are not married.
As far as BV is concerned I couldn't care less tbh if it was the most watched show on earth, trps don't matter to me I watch show for quality acting and good entertainment. And good entertainment for me is not watching any show promoting any sexual/physical relationship between a woman and recently turned adult male, she once deemed as like a son to her. Right now gulaal is doing well and I think the storyline good, the moment though I start getting indications that gulaal is going to be sexually intimate with kesar is the moment I'll stop watching the show. Furthermore I'm not naive, enough to assume by me simply not watching the show, it'll change its track, and either would I expect it to.
Although I think that not all bhabbi/dever see each other in this way I understand what you mean by cultural and social viewings of the bhabbi/devar relation. But my point is that can I can't understand how anyone who saw a child through the eyes of motherly adoration, can ever see them, even when their adults, as an individual who'll rise feelings of a sexual manner.

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@blue: I understand your point about how their marriage illegal. However this is a fictional Indian TV show, here these things don't matter. As a matter of fact, not in any TV show , for instance BV or new show Phulwa. No one would even be bothered about this fact, not even Gulaal, Kesar, his family nor the society. Also the child marriage is still practiced in parts of India even if its not legal.

I haven't watched the show but I can say that there would be turmoil in Gulaal's life when Kesar begins to treat her as his wife. First, her obessed lover who has also killed her husband won't stay quiet. Second, the girl Talli who is after Kesar will start hating Gulaal. Third, the family and society would start raising objections. Last but not the least Gulaal herself would find it very difficult to accept this. Since the central character is Gulaal and not Kesar, so everything will be shown from her POV. But to me its really Kesar who's life is messed up due to this marriage.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree that kesar's life has been screwed up as a result of gulaal's actions. And it's going to him that suffers the most.
But I don't agree that just because the show is fictional that it doesn't matter that viewers are being shown that it's 'ok' to perform child marriage. This is a prime time show, and it can't be seen along with any other show to condone crime. Maybe if they show that there are consequences for such actions, people might be less inclined to commit crime. I'm not saying that there's going to be a drastic change but, if as a result of watching a screwed up kesar and gulaal, even one child marriage is prevented from happening, then surely that's a good thing?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: suki11

@sweetviolet
I agree that kesar's life has been screwed up as a result of gulaal's actions. And it's going to him that suffers the most.
But I don't agree that just because the show is fictional that it doesn't matter that viewers are being shown that it's 'ok' to perform child marriage. This is a prime time show, and it can't be seen along with any other show to condone crime. Maybe if they show that there are consequences for such actions, people might be less inclined to commit crime. I'm not saying that there's going to be a drastic change but, if as a result of watching a screwed up kesar and gulaal, even one child marriage is prevented from happening, then surely that's a good thing?



Well the storyline, plot and so called twists and turns in these TV shows are governed by one and only one factor 'TRP'. Nothing else matters to the PH, CVs and the channel. They can easily destroy a very good story for these TRPs. The marriage is a joke and child's play. In almost all shows, the lead marry for all the wrong reasons and later on fall for each other. The consummation is delayed as much as possible, as soon as they become one either the girl becomes pregnant and/or they get separated. In another show, the girl conveniently forgets her first love and then falls for her stalker husband. The show fans would give many reasons for supporting this jodi but the fact remains that her husband is a hottie where as the other guy isn't that popular. Any amount of crap gets justified due to the hawtness factor. lol
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nureat01..........i completely agree with what you said...the whole thought of marrying off a 10 yr old child to his bhabhi for some family prestige is highly disgusting.....and now that he is grown up the thought itself shudders me... ...the fact that they are Married itself means some day or the other the CVs are bound to show the sex or romance happening...unless offcourse audience are ok with an extra marital affair of his.....cause there won't be any such thing as a divorce else Gulal would never have married a 10 yr old in the first place..........someone told about ek chaadar maili si....in that hema malini gets married to her younger devar rishi kapoor but no...he was no 10 yr old child when they got married .....anyways anything they do for trps....and this show in no way can be compared to BV where anandi and jagya get married at childhood...it was a child marriage for both of them....
bechaara Neil Bhatt...looks like he will never get to romance with a girl of his age in a serial....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@sweetviolet
I agree that probably all shows are based purely on trp ratings and sadly that this something that will continue to happen. But for me the worst thing is like you said some people are willing, to forgive any amount of indeceny, crime, and plain disgusting story lines simply because the leads of the show are attractive, look good together and share great chemistry on screen.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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for the nth time ........ there is no indecency here.

when gulaal married him , it was not for sexual reasons. infact it was to protect herself from sex, becuase she was sure with kesar as her husband she need never worry about it ......

however the sexual angle has come up now once the child has grown up, he is 20 -22 now. and she is 30. now the relationship is between two consenting adults. there is no child and no paedophilia involved.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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okay, I CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE BLAMES ON GULAAL! she's the reason i watch the show and i wouldn't allow you guys to tarnish her image. LOL. šŸ˜›

okay, what most of us are over-looking here is the FACT that gulaal married kesar for the sole reason of protecting him from the other family members who, at that point, were keen to kill him so that they could have his 40% of share of property, namely, jamuna kaki, raman ji, and even sudha bhabhi. she didn't marry him to have him get attracted to her when he grows up. she clearly stated that she would have get married to someone else when he grows up and she will continue to live as vasant's widow in that house as jamuna kaki at that time CLEARLY wanted her to get deeyarvattu-ed to dushyant (whom she OBVIOUSLY hated cos he hit on her!) or else she could leave the house. she obviously didn't want kesar to get hurt so she instead deeyarvattu-ed with him.

now, rahi baat kesarji ki, why would gulaal have thought in a narcissistic manner that he would be attracted to her beauty, strong personality when he grows up? he adored her when he was 12 years old when he married her, he still does adore her, but blame his hormones for making his thought slightly impure! I MEAN, WHO CAN CONTROL A HORMONAL GUY'S THOUGHTS? it's nobody's fault that kesar is now attracted to gulaal. you can't assume that it's sexual because we have no evidence. he just says, "tum khule baalon mein acchi lagti ho", not, "oh you're so hot!". LOL. it's just that his love for her has taken a different route. GEDDIT?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#69
Love has no age!!N there was never a mother n son relationship b/w them it was more of a caring n a deep understanding..like they connect with eachother more like soulmates....n i really hope their pyaar ke kahani starts soon... from the last scene of the Maha Episode i fell that the Cupid's arrow has struck Kesar!!now i hope that in the next episode we see some Gulaal n Kesar chemistry!!!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalini92

okay, I CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE BLAMES ON GULAAL! she's the reason i watch the show and i wouldn't allow you guys to tarnish her image. LOL. šŸ˜›


okay, what most of us are over-looking here is the FACT that gulaal married kesar for the sole reason of protecting him from the other family members who, at that point, were keen to kill him so that they could have his 40% of share of property, namely, jamuna kaki, raman ji, and even sudha bhabhi. she didn't marry him to have him get attracted to her when he grows up. she clearly stated that she would have get married to someone else when he grows up and she will continue to live as vasant's widow in that house as jamuna kaki at that time CLEARLY wanted her to get deeyarvattu-ed to dushyant (whom she OBVIOUSLY hated cos he hit on her!) or else she could leave the house. she obviously didn't want kesar to get hurt so she instead deeyarvattu-ed with him.

now, rahi baat kesarji ki, why would gulaal have thought in a narcissistic manner that he would be attracted to her beauty, strong personality when he grows up? he adored her when he was 12 years old when he married her, he still does adore her, but blame his hormones for making his thought slightly impure! I MEAN, WHO CAN CONTROL A HORMONAL GUY'S THOUGHTS? it's nobody's fault that kesar is now attracted to gulaal. you can't assume that it's sexual because we have no evidence. he just says, "tum khule baalon mein acchi lagti ho", not, "oh you're so hot!". LOL. it's just that his love for her has taken a different route. GEDDIT?

@ bold 🤣🤣🤣 cant control myself.............seriously these harmones are so very culpritšŸ˜†

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