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Originally posted by: Sweet-Violet

I know its very intriguing that this article was published for UK audience and no mention in TB articles or any promos until this was actually shown in the show. May be they didn't want to scare Bharat ki Janta away. lol LOL I'm sure that is exactly what it was.....didn't want to spook the bharat ki janta right off the bat....well it doesn't seem to have garnered them much TRPs either ways.....1.7 for a prime-time SP show is deffo wayyyyyyyy low.

I don't know about this custom "Deeyarvatu", not sure if its allowed to marry KID devars. Its quite similar in concept to the movie "Ek Chadar Maili Si". Actually when I was a kid, in our neighborhood there was a family where the guy was married to his widowed bhabhi and was raising her kids as their own. Not sure how many but some of them were his too. lol Yes, I've also heard many times of devars marrying their widowed bhabhis but this KID devar marrying his bhabhi is surely unique to this show as far as I can see😆......I think Deeyavatu only indicates that a devar is expected to marry his widowed bhabhi......not that even a KID devar is expected to marry his bhabhi.....

What I don't understand after following this debate, why some people seem to be actually rooting for gulaal and kesar to have full-blown intimate husband/wife relationship!
I'm not saying gulaal was 100% wrong for 'marrying' kesar as times and circumstances left her no other alternatives if she wanted to remain in telesgra and fulfill her promise to vasant the man she still loves.
But for god's sake she stated she would be very happy to take on the role as a second mother to kesar, she wanted to raise him, into the man vasant wanted him to be. No woman who says that she is like a mother to a child would ever seriously consider having a husband/wife relationship with that child! And by husband/wife I mean a physical and sexual relationship.
Also as far as I'm concerned their 'marriage' is not legal in any way, and gulaal legally can't claim any status as his wife, nor can kesar in later episodes pressure her in any way to fulfill her conjugal duties, just because he has some feelings of desire for.
I'm surprised that dushere in his attempt to destroy gulaal, doesn't simply just phone the police and have gulaal and the rest of motaba's family arrested for not only conducting child marriage, but allowing this sham of an marriage to continue for so many years!
I know gulaal has no sexual desire for kesar, and she had none whilst 'marrying' him, but the fact that people are suggesting that its perfectly healthy/natural/alright for her to do so now that he is a strapping grown man is wrong as far as I'm concerned.
There are plenty of mothers/siblings who have their children/younger siblings separated from them for years, yet you wouldn't justify any of them having a husband/wife relationship upon being reunited simply because now, they're all adults!

Originally posted by: suki11

What I don't understand after following this debate, why some people seem to be actually rooting for gulaal and kesar to have full-blown intimate husband/wife relationship!
I'm not saying gulaal was 100% wrong for 'marrying' kesar as times and circumstances left her no other alternatives if she wanted to remain in telesgra and fulfill her promise to vasant the man she still loves.
But for god's sake she stated she would be very happy to take on the role as a second mother to kesar, she wanted to raise him, into the man vasant wanted him to be. No woman who says that she is like a mother to a child would ever seriously consider having a husband/wife relationship with that child! And by husband/wife I mean a physical and sexual relationship.
Also as far as I'm concerned their 'marriage' is not legal in any way, and gulaal legally can't claim any status as his wife, nor can kesar in later episodes pressure her in any way to fulfill her conjugal duties, just because he has some feelings of desire for.
I'm surprised that dushere in his attempt to destroy gulaal, doesn't simply just phone the police and have gulaal and the rest of motaba's family arrested for not only conducting child marriage, but allowing this sham of an marriage to continue for so many years!
I know gulaal has no sexual desire for kesar, and she had none whilst 'marrying' him, but the fact that people are suggesting that its perfectly healthy/natural/alright for her to do so now that he is a strapping grown man is wrong as far as I'm concerned.
There are plenty of mothers/siblings who have their children/younger siblings separated from them for years, yet you wouldn't justify any of them having a husband/wife relationship upon being reunited simply because now, they're all adults!

Originally posted by: -JC-

@nureat: After having read your posts till now, i understand your disgust. Its not with the show but the concept of an adult woman marrying a child. BTW even tho the articles said he was a 10 yr old, Kesar was 12 when Gulaal married him. Not that it makes a difference. Some 10 yrs ago i first got into watch Tamil movies. Some of the initial movies i watched were set in remote villages and depicted some traditions that were unusual to me. I had never heard of such things happening in India. Something that grossed me out completely was the idea of an uncle marrying his niece...and this was not just accepted but encouraged by the community they lived in. And some of the stories in these movies had the uncle actually rearing the niece and then marrying her...and the niece being told as a child that her uncle was going to be her husband. This grossed me out so much that i stopped watching any movies that had the lead character being played by the men who acted in such movies. At that time i was a teenager myself and always put myself in the position of these girls and just wanted to puke at the idea. Now there is less of such kind of things being shown in movies from TN. Same goes for the practice of cousins marrying each other. South indian Movies were/are full of superhit love-stories of cousins and the audience never felt disgusted watching it but some might find to be incest and repulsive. So i think i get the disgust you feel.

Similarly, there is a current show of Gunahon ka Devta showing a widowed bhabi lusting after her young devar since he was 14. The viewers find it beyond disgusting.

Then there are shows like Bandini, where a budha marries a girl younger than his own adult children and has kids with her. And BV where a middle aged man marries a teenage girl and rapes her and later they live like its a perfectly natural marriage.

All these things are just as disgusting as a 18 yr old woman marrying a 12 yr old boy no matter what the circumstances. This is your POV and undersood. Gulaal is still watchable, yet because it has not crossed that boundary that the other shows and movies i mentioned have crossed. You expect it to get to that point, but some of us have hope that it won't.

As for the forum enjoying the chemistry between Neil and Manasi. Its not necessary to mix the characters with the actors or to mix real with reel. Just because someone is rooting to see Manasi and Neil more and more together, doesn't mean they in real life will support child marriages and immoral relationships.

Originally posted by: suki11

Firstly when I say 'not a 100% wrong' what I mean is that gulaal was pressured into this marriage as she did it to protect kesar from any further threats to his life and also fulfill her promise to vasant. As she was in some manner forced to marry him, she can't be held 100% at fault. It's like if someone was blackmailing you, so you committed a crime, even though you would be wrong the whole blame for your actions can't be laid at your feet in my opinion as you were being pressured by someone else. But as far as the marriage is concerned yes I don't agree with it and I don't think any court in the whole of India would either.
I don't watch BV but if that concerns child marriage in any form, then yes that would be illegal too, and I don't agree with it.
As for them being not naturally/biologically related that doesn't matter IMO. But no offense would you say its ok for a woman to become physically/sexually intimate with a child that she had adopted?
Regardless of the fact that gulaal did not formally adopt him, she agreed to raise as a second mother, and as far as I'm concerned showing kesar/gulaal as lovers now, would be disgusting slur on a mother/child relationship.
Also I never said you personally were rooting for them to love story, and if my post(s) has given you any indication that I am, that I'll assure that this was not my intention.

@sweetviolet
The reason people were after kesar's life was because of property he had under his name. But upon 'marriage' even if he died all his property would go to gulaal, so therefore any attempts on his life for reasons of greed were useless.
Anyway I think you're missing my main points, gulaal/kesar marriage is illegal, it is not validated in any way and she's extremely lucky that she hasn't been hurled off to jail, along with the rest of the family for condoning this crime. Because that's what it is, regardless of what you or I think as believe it not to some extent my sympathies do lie with gulaal as she has horribly mistreated by both people and life in general IMO. So simply put they are not married.
As far as BV is concerned I couldn't care less tbh if it was the most watched show on earth, trps don't matter to me I watch show for quality acting and good entertainment. And good entertainment for me is not watching any show promoting any sexual/physical relationship between a woman and recently turned adult male, she once deemed as like a son to her. Right now gulaal is doing well and I think the storyline good, the moment though I start getting indications that gulaal is going to be sexually intimate with kesar is the moment I'll stop watching the show. Furthermore I'm not naive, enough to assume by me simply not watching the show, it'll change its track, and either would I expect it to.
Although I think that not all bhabbi/dever see each other in this way I understand what you mean by cultural and social viewings of the bhabbi/devar relation. But my point is that can I can't understand how anyone who saw a child through the eyes of motherly adoration, can ever see them, even when their adults, as an individual who'll rise feelings of a sexual manner.