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Posted: 14 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

^Thats what people need to understand. She still LOVES Vasant i.e. in love with him while she loves Kesar deeply but she isn't in love with him.


I don't agree with the second part though. I'm quite convinced that there will be something more from Gulaal too but not just yet. The creatives had always intended to keep Vasant's role short and it was always meant to be Kesar-Gulaal if we look at the hints given since the start of the show.



Well the plot of Gulaal has been lifted off from an old movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ek_Chadar_Maili_Si

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Posted: 14 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

@nureat01: I think the best thing is to just let it be because a certain group of fans are enjoying the track and I don't really want to be accused of supporting something 'disgusting' when some of us clearly don't see it like that. All I know is that Gulaal does not have any 'sexual' feelings for him and even now she is searching for that CHILD in kesar but slowly she's beginning to realise that this isn't the same person she knew 8 years ago hence she may start seeing him differently. That does not mean she will have feelings for the 12 year old Kesar, it means she might get attracted to the 20-21 year old Kesar. BIG DIFFERENCE!

And I'm done trying to convince 😃 I guess its best for those who want to enjoy the show to do so and those who find the concept repulsive to just not watch it :\



@bold: Umm and when did I exactly say that she has feelings for a 10 year old😕😕....and why do you keep saying 12?? Wasn't he TEN when she married him?

You don't have to make any effort to convince me. I never asked for that. But I don't feel that my point ever got understood here either. I NEVER said that Gulaal was having "sexual feelings" for a TEN year old....yet for god knows what reason ppl have twisted my words around here.......I said that that BASIS for this relationship.....that she married a CHILD and now ofcourse he has conveniently grown into a man and ppl will be comfortable with watching them romance since NOW he's an adult.....and conveniently erase from their minds the visual of her literally mothering him as a little child.

Seems like the "creativity" of writers in daily soaps is now trying to outdo the most controversial of Greek tragedies.

I'm seeing examples being touted in this forum of what a "unique" love story this is of Kesar-Gulaal.....why? Cuz she married him when he was TEN?? THIS is the kind of "uniqueness" that is now now considered fascinating?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#33
But at the end of the day its a serial which needs TRPs so they aren't going to follow a film to the T.

If Vasant comes back thats another issue altogether but I don't see him returning for a while.

I just want to enjoy the show because after a long time I've got hooked on to a daily soap so others can judge all they like, its a fictional show which appeals to me.

P.S. I thought he was 12 when he left and I dont think they got married when he was 10 :\

And there's no point of arguing amongst ourselves because neither of us write the story! So you all carry on bringing up the immorality of this, it doesn't affect me that much tbh!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@nureat01

I agree with you. When I first heard that grown woman was getting married to a child I was like what on earth are they showing on Indian tv 🤢(I didn;t know why she was marrying him etc). I never used to watch the show and my sister-in-law kind of gives me a summery of the shows when I sit to watch random ones with her.

But there was a sweetness to their relationship and at that moment I didn't know there was going to be a leap as such.

I have no problems with Kesar ending up with Talli has long as there is a development of the relationship. Talli needs to understand Kesar, he is a very complex person and anyone who enters a relationship with him needs to know him. Or no way the relationship will work out. And understand that he will anyways have a bond with Gulaal.

About Gulaal and Kesar. I will find it very difficult to digest Gulaal suddenly have those kind of feelings for Kesar. She is still very much in love with her dead husband and has been for years. If any development of feelings are to occur between herself and Kesar. It needs to be done very gradually and I expect her to fight that feeling and be confused about it. If they suddenly show her changing hers views on Kesar just because he has grown up. I will drop this show without thinking twice. That is just wrong... At the moment I see her acting like she used to with him. There isn't any shyness the only awkwardness I see is that she is aware that Kesar has changed and for some reason doesn't like her. The 8 years distance kinda allowed this to happen. If he grew up being looked after by Gulaal and then Gulaal having feelings for him that would be🤢

Kesar is in a different level. I can digest him having a deeper awareness of Gulaal due to their bond and also since he kept her fresh in her mind for so long. He has always thought that Gulaal belongs to him. It is yet to be seen what his true feeling are for Gulaal. Has he mixed up his feeling of Gulaal and what is a sister/maternal feeling with that of love....or has their relationship got more to it and can develop into something else. The misunderstand needs to be cleared first.


Edited by peacefulblossom - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: -AG4U-


Its not easy for someone to move from one platonic relationship to a sexual one.. especially if the person has grown up in front of you..Exactly.....but it seems it is quite easy for many ppl to accept that transition if the views in this forum are anything to go by. (Although Priyanka Chopra's character from 7 Khoon Maaf was a really weird character, just in case someone decides to bring that up for comparison with Gulaal's character)

As far as I can say, the creative team should not make them a couple, since it would be ethically wrong and very difficult for anyone to digest.. Devar-Bhabhi is fine Yes, devar-bhabhi is fine....it's nothing new....it's been shown in manyyyyyyyyyyy shows.....Kumkum being the best example....but this is no ordinary devar bhabhi......the devar in question was a CHILD when she married him for whatever reason.....you can't conveniently romanticize this just cuz the devar grows up ans now they are both adults easily available to develop romantic feelings for each other.. Plus Gulaal will probably wrap up by the end of May with IPL, so that's enough time for them to show Kesar's marriage to Talli and Gulaal continuing to do better for the village of Talsagra. Oh this show is going to wrap up at the end of May?? 😕😆



Also, this example you posted of "ek chadar maili si"....again the bhabhi marrying her devar there......yes she was older than him but he wasn't a little KID when she married him......that is what makes the concept in Gulaal extremely creepy to me....age differences are not an issue.....fine, she's 10 years older than him....but she literally treated him like a son at some point.....HOW can they so easily transition to showing her romance him?? Amazing.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: peacefulblossom


About Gulaal and Kesar. I will find it very difficult to digest Gulaal suddenly have those kind of feelings for Kesar. She is still very much in love with her dead husband and has been for years. If any development of feelings are to occur between herself and Kesar. It needs to be done very gradually and I expect her to fight that feeling and be confused about it. If they suddenly show her changing hers views on Kesar just because he has grown up. I will drop this show without thinking twice. That is just wrong... At the moment I see her acting like she used to with him. There isn't any shyness the only awkwardness I see if that she is aware that Kesar has changed and for some reason doesn't like her. The 8 years distance kinda allowed this to happen. If he grew up being looked after my Gulaal and then Gulaal having feelings for him that would be🤢

Kesar is in a different level. I can digest him having a deeper awareness of Gulaal due to their bond and also since he kept her fresh in her mind for so long. He has always thought that Gulaal belongs to him. It is yet to be seen what his true feeling are for Gulaal. Has he mixed up his feeling of Gulaal and what is a sister/maternal feeling with that of love....or has their relationship got more to it and can develop into something else. The misunderstand needs to be cleared first.




Oh it doesn't seem that they will show SUDDEN feelings developing.....I wasn't trying to say that either.....I guess they will show a gradual development of feelings.....I read this post about a new promo with Kesar staring at Gulaal all fascinated as she brushes her hair or something, correct? So it's obvious from his side that his feelings are more romantic in nature already. That gives a clear indication of where this is headed.

As for Gulaal......ok I guess she'll take more time but sooner or later will fall in love with him.....these stories are predictable in that sense.......

To me personally, the ick factor is of her marrying him as a kid....no matter that they were apart for 8 years or so....she did marry him as a kid, mothered him as a kid.....and now they will expectedly be a couple.....in every sense of the word soon enough.

Love stories are fascinating, sure.....especially angsty ones....but I guess we all have our own limits and definitions of what crosses the line and what doesn't.....this to me definitely crosses the line into icky territory. To have angst stemming from the fact that a woman married this guy as a kid and that is why their feelings are complex....ermmmm
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Posted: 14 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: nureat01



Also, this example you posted of "ek chadar maili si"....again the bhabhi marrying her devar there......yes she was older than him but he wasn't a little KID when she married him......that is what makes the concept in Gulaal extremely creepy to me....age differences are not an issue.....fine, she's 10 years older than him....but she literally treated him like a son at some point.....HOW can they so easily transition to showing her romance him?? Amazing.




well, she hasnt exactly started seeing him romantically yet, rite.. its just speculation from forum members.. I swear the day that happens, I shall not watch Gulaal anymore...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't watch this show but found this debate very interesting. I have somewhat different views on this topic. To me if they can show a grown-up woman marrying a 10 year old child then what's so wrong in making them a couple ? I mean its already so gross what they have shown then how much more damage they can do by making them husband-wife in real sense ? I really don't care under what circumstances she married her kid devar and what type of bond they share ? They got married to each other and no one can deny that. Now its up-to them to take this relationship to a different level or Gulaal leaves Kesar so he could move on with his life.
The most disturbing thing here is that Gulaal took this decision for Kesar. OK she never had any intention of becoming his wife but how can this marriage has no impact on this child who now views her as his wife and has feelings for her. Is his life not ruined in this mess ??

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sweet-Violet

I don't watch this show but found this debate very interesting. I have somewhat different views on this topic. To me if they can show a grown-up woman marrying a 10 year old child then what's so wrong in making them a couple ? I mean its already so gross what they have shown then how much more damage they can do by making them husband-wife in real sense ? I really don't care under what circumstances she married her kid devar and what type of bond they share ? They got married to each other and no one can deny that. Now its up-to them to take this relationship to a different level or Gulaal leaves Kesar so he could move on with his life.
The most disturbing thing here is that Gulaal took this decision for Kesar. OK she never had any intention of becoming his wife but how can this marriage has no impact on this child who now views her as his wife and has feelings for her. Is his life not ruined in this mess ??



@bold: Good point.....and I guess that is where the drama comes from in this show, correct? That he resents her for in a sense making him so confused and messed up in the head over this marriage happening to him as a kid but he is at the same time fascinated by her and has romantic feelings for her too.....angst......that is enough to pull in the audience I guess.

I guess I'm too hung up on the grown woman marrying a 10 year old kid.....find it tough to look beyond that even if they are now both adults and free to do whatever they want with their relationship.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01



Oh it doesn't seem that they will show SUDDEN feelings developing.....I wasn't trying to say that either.....I guess they will show a gradual development of feelings.....I read this post about a new promo with Kesar staring at Gulaal all fascinated as she brushes her hair or something, correct? So it's obvious from his side that his feelings are more romantic in nature already. That gives a clear indication of where this is headed.

As for Gulaal......ok I guess she'll take more time but sooner or later will fall in love with him.....these stories are predictable in that sense.......

To me personally, the ick factor is of her marrying him as a kid....no matter that they were apart for 8 years or so....she did marry him as a kid, mothered him as a kid.....and now they will expectedly be a couple.....in every sense of the word soon enough.

Love stories are fascinating, sure.....especially angsty ones....but I guess we all have our own limits and definitions of what crosses the line and what doesn't.....this to me definitely crosses the line into icky territory. To have angst stemming from the fact that a woman married this guy as a kid and that is why their feelings are complex....ermmmm


I have not watched the promo just read someones intake of the promo so can only reply from that knowledge. The obvious prediction of the story is that Kesar will have romantic feels for Gulaal. But my question is...is Kesars feeling towards Gulaal what he think it is? It is known that especially boys can develop a some what romantic feelings for their own true mothers. (Brian shutting down cant remember what they call it now). Normally this is controlled by the individual some even need treatment. And in this case Gulaal isn't his mother but they share a deep bond. It will be interesting to see how they show Kesar feeling towards her...I don't expect him to be in love with her....well not just yet maybe after the misunderstanding is cleared. Also his marriage with Gulaal at such young age would put ideas in his head.

Yes Gulaal married Kesar when he was a child...there is a 'ick' factor to that. But taking in consideration why she did it and that she didn't expect to stay married to him we could see the relationship in a different light. I wouldn't be surprised if this marriage breaks....even if at the end Gulaal-Kesar get together again.

I have heard of stories in real life of father and daughter having a child together....and happily and all sorts of other issues. This is more of a icky factor to me. But agreed if I saw Gulaal/Kesar relationship in real life I was be icky too if I did not understand their relationship.

But I think everyone is so excepting of this relationship in serial world because of all the other craziness they have seen in Indian Tv for years. I myself don't know much since I'm relatively new to it. But I've heard of leads marrying numerous of times, plastic surgeries 😕, husband traumatising/harming wife and then its ok because he said sorry 🤢 the list is endless....

This is the entertainment world...I guess anything is ok as long as it entertains.
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