Why do you think Virat loves Sai? - Page 6

Originally posted by: Shaome

This topic has been discussed for the last one year... Till it has NOT reached to any conclusions.. Virat does things going out of his ways for her but often after doing something really stupid.. The circle has been going on and on....👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

I find both Sai and Virat quite hypocriteS. . Both are currently in a situation where they want to protect their heart.. So both end up hurting each other ..

According to me love has different forms.. Without demand and command one can't feel loved... Virat too is demanding or selfish in love.. He could easily give away Pakhi for his brother but would he able to do this with Sai?? Never..even if makes Sai happy still he won't..

It's Sai who can bring the best out of him also unleash an animal in him..

However I never fantacise Virat or SaiRat..They are just characters who are somewhat showcasing the hurdles of a couple..in real world love is tougher than this.. It's more demanding or selfish.. There is no relationship can be called as ideal..

@Bold- Pakhi ki sabsi badi beizzati. 🤣 He never loved pakhi which is why it wasn't that hard for him to give her up for his brother, but he would never be able to hand sai off to any other person because he actually loves her.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Sai also abuses them? Giving back to people who insult us for no reason is called abuse?

Edit: Is it abnormal to expect a husband to take stand for his wife( whom he claims to love)against his family when they insult her instead of joining them. If he is not outspoken then he should shut his mouth when sai gives back his lovely family for insulting her instead of asking her to talk with them nicely. Same person talks against his family like aai, mohit, sunny, devi tai to support his bf pakhi. He can support his bhabhi/ bf against his family but not his wife? And does wife not considered under family? Samrat talked for sai when his wife & kaku mandali(family) taunted her for no reason. The difference.

I edited the abuse sentence..my bad.

As for the 2nd para , I already called him hypocrite and spineless for the reasons you mentioned. There r many who don't do it and there r many who do. Virat is one of those who won't take a stand against his family.. that's what he is. I never said its right or wrong. Why blame only virat ? Even sai has a soft corner for pakhi , does she not know her true intentions ? And chavans ? Sai is hugging them kissing them, does anything for them.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I edited the abuse sentence..my bad.

As for the 2nd para , I already called him hypocrite and spineless for the reasons you mentioned. There r many who don't do it and there r many who do. Virat is one of those who won't take a stand against his family.. that's what he is. I never said its right or wrong. Why blame only virat ? Even sai has a soft corner for pakhi , does she not know her true intentions ? And chavans ? Sai is hugging them kissing them, does anything for them.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Sai has soft corner for pakhi because of her yoga lobe tears infront of her but will still call out pakhi if she insults virat infront of her. When pakhi called virat dokebaaz sai called out her. When family taunted virat for gifting only his wife pendent sai right away gave her pendant to kaku to save her husband from his family taunts.Taking stand doesn't mean virat should cut all ties with his family or be cold to them just stop ur family when they r being unreasonably unfair to ur wife the way samrat stopped virat pakhi today. Instead he joins them in taunting her. Don't understand how virat & sai situations even can be compared here.

I am not comparing situations..I think both the characters r flawed in their own way , and pakhi is being glorified by the writers ..i am not denying anything that you wrote...

I don't have the patience to continue this , anyways , it's off topic..don't wanna spoil asmi's thread ..have a good day👍🏼

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I have added the feelings that I see in Virat, but being in love myself I cant call it love yet.. He comes from a very conservative family, in any case he did not meet Pakhi, he would have had an arrange marriage and would have grown to be "in love" with the woman he was married to.. For sure he would not have been a Ninad Chavan, but surely would have his elements, like he has every now and then.The love that in general husband has for his wife and not the love we are talking about..Also in the case he married Sai , in absence of Pakhi's presence in his life, in the same circumstances , even then he would have started with his marital life when Sai was ready, since there was no question of deal.. So the Virat right now , I see him as the same man, who got fond of the woman, attracted to her , was anyway protective from the very beginning and also grew possessive the way a husband would be..

Why I feel he is still not in "love" with Sai is for the fact that he fails to see her as an equal, as someone who he can communicate with, someone who needs his transparency. Just as he wants from her.. Also he has had failed to understand her and her insecurities for him in general. Sai has been in that regard very perceptive, since the beginning of the marriage , even though it was not real in her head, every time she saw him feeling jealous of a man...She has given proper and adequate answers to it, whenever he would ask. Even though she would club it with "why it matters to you" , she would address his concerns with clarity. Virat has somehow failed there..

Also he has fought for her respect in the family yes, but more than fighting for it, he has let his family disrespect her and also participated in doing so...He has always let his best friend abuse, harass his wife, infront of her , behind her...and he still choses to be civil with her..Any man in love would not let that happen at any cost.. However how ugly fight I have had with mine, he would not let anyone, not even family members insult me...a vile ex is out of question... Virat in general lets it happen, even when he is good terms with Sai.. I do not attribute it to him being in love... No woman gets to talk nonsense with your love, your wife, treat her the way she is treated.. by Pakhi.. FOr instance how dare she taunt Sai, she is Virat's wife and she can talk on behalf of him and he on behalf of her, even when they are at loggerheads...Angry or not I dont relate with it...

Also These statements that Sai makes, he lets it go just like that ...For instance the other day she said, she would never be accepted as a bahu, he says, she needs to adjust and today when she said, that if he gets late, no one is going to say anything to her, but for her, it will be more like a crime... The CVs let these questions go and so does Virat.....

I see the most important elements of love lacking in Virat...Trust, understanding and respect.

I was at work so could not reply in detail. Your post is actually very thought provoking for me, and made me question a lot of what I was feeling about SaiRat. In fact this is one of the reasons I am not able to resonate with SaiRat nowadays. I started watching from the Amey track, and the only reason I wanted to watch was Sai - because she was something completely different for me. The last time an FL's whole 'feel' attracted me like this was when, in the first episode of THAT show, they showed as if the FL was going to commit suicide or something in the kitchen - and she started making jalebis! I mean, I just loved her from that very second - and I got the same kind of feeling with Sai during the Amey track - and Virat's reactions were awesome as well. The direction, execution, dialogues - that sort of pull and push between them - everything was something different and you could feel that energy between them. I was kind of thinking of that when I wrote about him loving her.

I am not able to associate the current SaiRat with those people at all. To some extent, the day he decided to throw her out of the house - and especially say that she is mentally challenged and scolded her for giving it back to KBA when she was implying (on no evidential basis by the way!) that Sai was a gold-digger - that day itself, something sort of snapped that connect feel with them. You are right in that he has not at all understood her insecurities, her youth, the impact of Patralekha being in the same house as a constant reminder that she should not allow herself to love Virat and hurt herself in the process, that feeling of being alone in the world at all (bold 1 above). I saw a post on the forum some days back where a person had written that Sai being an orphan cannot be a proper excuse for all that she says and does. I was actually appalled at that lack of sensitivity. I work with actual orphaned children or children with single parents as part of my job, and the kind of trauma and issues they go through, even when they are above 18, is something completely different. We are working with some girls now who are almost finishing college - so they are in fact older than Sai is portrayed - and there are a lot of underlying problems that crop up in the most weird ways and in the most weird places. Anyway, I am straying from the point - I just wanted to convey that, while he wants to give Patralekha a long rope and understand her and support her - he did not bother to show the same courtesy to Sai. When Sonali taunted her about her mother passing when she gave birth, he did not open his mouth. When his family members routinely abuse Sai, he does not bother to understand and neither does he empathise with her situation. Patralekha has parents that she can run to - Sai has no one. It's really sad.

So I think you are right actually - the crucial components of trust, understanding and respect are definitely lacking in Virat's love for Sai. The way he talks about Sai sometimes shows these, but when he talks to or at her, they are lacking. And to Sai's credit, she has shown all these three to Virat in front of him as well as behind his back when she speaks about him. Your point - bold 2 - is why I do not want to watch this show any more. I am just not able to stomach the fact that that vile woman is getting away with everything she did, without even consequences - and she is being whitewashed. Read somewhere that Ashwini was nice to her today - why?! Just because she is now Samrat's officially accepted wife, you will forget that this woman has taunted you, your daughter-in-law whom you supposedly consider your daughter, and even your son? And of course, Virat's response to her today - maybe, just maybe, it would have been acceptable if he had even said this to someone else. But why her? This has nothing to do with offscreen dynamics or anything. It's in completely poor taste, and shows a kind of familiarity between them which is not required - which any man in love (as you said) will not show. So yes, it really doesn't feel like love. I am still ready to give the benefit of doubt and say it's more character butchering and problems with execution and direction, but the CVs for sure need a course correction - and soon. The toxicity in this show is too much to handle, and it doesn't feel worth it to stick around for a confession between these two.

Bold 3 - I had written in some post a few days back - it seems like they wanted to show a brash, impulsive, do-gooder FL who needed her wings clipped so she learns to become a good and sanskari and mature bahu - and this is definitely not the Sai I wanted at all. If this is what love does to Sai Virat Chavan, she can remain Sai Joshi for all I care (and PS, that's why I loved the crazy KKGSR - she never lost the G due to the SR - I am sure you will agree 😆).

Sorry - bit long and rambling and I haven't proof-read, but hope it makes sense. I didn't realise I had so much bhadaas against Virat in me! 🤣 And thanks for the tag again! 🤗 Love reading your posts!

All i can say is virat is just like jagpat, Jagpat harassed sai because she didnot love him back even virat is doing the same to her, whether the harassment is physical or mental or emotional harasment is a harasment . So i would say virat is no better than jagpat

Originally posted by: archanan14

I was at work so could not reply in detail. Your post is actually very thought provoking for me, and made me question a lot of what I was feeling about SaiRat. In fact this is one of the reasons I am not able to resonate with SaiRat nowadays. I started watching from the Amey track, and the only reason I wanted to watch was Sai - because she was something completely different for me. The last time an FL's whole 'feel' attracted me like this was when, in the first episode of THAT show, they showed as if the FL was going to commit suicide or something in the kitchen - and she started making jalebis! I mean, I just loved her from that very second - and I got the same kind of feeling with Sai during the Amey track - and Virat's reactions were awesome as well. The direction, execution, dialogues - that sort of pull and push between them - everything was something different and you could feel that energy between them. I was kind of thinking of that when I wrote about him loving her.

I am not able to associate the current SaiRat with those people at all. To some extent, the day he decided to throw her out of the house - and especially say that she is mentally challenged and scolded her for giving it back to KBA when she was implying (on no evidential basis by the way!) that Sai was a gold-digger - that day itself, something sort of snapped that connect feel with them. You are right in that he has not at all understood her insecurities, her youth, the impact of Patralekha being in the same house as a constant reminder that she should not allow herself to love Virat and hurt herself in the process, that feeling of being alone in the world at all (bold 1 above). I saw a post on the forum some days back where a person had written that Sai being an orphan cannot be a proper excuse for all that she says and does. I was actually appalled at that lack of sensitivity. I work with actual orphaned children or children with single parents as part of my job, and the kind of trauma and issues they go through, even when they are above 18, is something completely different. We are working with some girls now who are almost finishing college - so they are in fact older than Sai is portrayed - and there are a lot of underlying problems that crop up in the most weird ways and in the most weird places. Anyway, I am straying from the point - I just wanted to convey that, while he wants to give Patralekha a long rope and understand her and support her - he did not bother to show the same courtesy to Sai. When Sonali taunted her about her mother passing when she gave birth, he did not open his mouth. When his family members routinely abuse Sai, he does not bother to understand and neither does he empathise with her situation. Patralekha has parents that she can run to - Sai has no one. It's really sad.

So I think you are right actually - the crucial components of trust, understanding and respect are definitely lacking in Virat's love for Sai. The way he talks about Sai sometimes shows these, but when he talks to or at her, they are lacking. And to Sai's credit, she has shown all these three to Virat in front of him as well as behind his back when she speaks about him. Your point - bold 2 - is why I do not want to watch this show any more. I am just not able to stomach the fact that that vile woman is getting away with everything she did, without even consequences - and she is being whitewashed. Read somewhere that Ashwini was nice to her today - why?! Just because she is now Samrat's officially accepted wife, you will forget that this woman has taunted you, your daughter-in-law whom you supposedly consider your daughter, and even your son? And of course, Virat's response to her today - maybe, just maybe, it would have been acceptable if he had even said this to someone else. But why her? This has nothing to do with offscreen dynamics or anything. It's in completely poor taste, and shows a kind of familiarity between them which is not required - which any man in love (as you said) will not show. So yes, it really doesn't feel like love. I am still ready to give the benefit of doubt and say it's more character butchering and problems with execution and direction, but the CVs for sure need a course correction - and soon. The toxicity in this show is too much to handle, and it doesn't feel worth it to stick around for a confession between these two.

Bold 3 - I had written in some post a few days back - it seems like they wanted to show a brash, impulsive, do-gooder FL who needed her wings clipped so she learns to become a good and sanskari and mature bahu - and this is definitely not the Sai I wanted at all. If this is what love does to Sai Virat Chavan, she can remain Sai Joshi for all I care (and PS, that's why I loved the crazy KKGSR - she never lost the G due to the SR - I am sure you will agree 😆).

Sorry - bit long and rambling and I haven't proof-read, but hope it makes sense. I didn't realise I had so much bhadaas against Virat in me! 🤣 And thanks for the tag again! 🤗 Love reading your posts!

They are tweaking the story by making them all nice to her, I think that's because of offscreen...Makers actors everyone have denied to call her negative...So they put in these scenes...

About orphan part , kya bolun, a young girl at 18, losing so much and then facing this much has to "behave". "Behave" every single time. I always say, The writer was bang on with the characterization of Sai or rather Emon.... Credit where due...

The lady you mentioned, was loved for what she was and was never made to change, nor by her husband or by her in-laws...Crazy she remained till the end..No comparison there...NEVER!!

ABout long posts, I love them and feeling is mutual..Love the interaction..

I don't think Virat loves Sai at all. He feels strongly for her than he's felt for Pakhi fosho but not love. You don't take revenge in love or try avenging by insulting to make someone feel shitty about themselves. The physical attraction is very strong from his side. It's horrible whatever he's doing to Sai rn. I literally judge & feel sick to see some people getting amused, finding it funny, cute, entertaining, loving this side of his & treating Sai that way telling she deserves it, lauding him for that... He's acting like a jilted lover. Other than that I think teenagers, ITV fans notion of love is frivolous, cos if the ML gazes at the FL with heart eyes they think it's love. Throwing grand ass party, gifts, surprises. That's the idea of love on ITV so I can't really blame them tbh 😆

I don't get how come so-called fake mahaan, being annoying, dumb etc of FLs is worse than MLs straight out abusive behaviour?

I personally feel that Virat does not love Sai at all. He might be attracted to her, but I don't think he loves her. And whatever he feels for her is love, it is definitely very conditional. According to me, you can never wholeheartedly love someone without trusting them, respecting them and being honest with them. And Virat definitely doesn't trust, respect or be honest with Sai. I personally feel like his idea of love is completely twisted, and very very selfish. He will be in love with her as long as she does something good for the family and keeps up the act of being a good bahu. But the minute she does something that doesn't fall in line with his feelings, he loses it.

And for those who say that he immediately repents all the wrong that he did to her, what is the use of crying over spilt milk? When he is so aware that Sai can never do something that will bring harm to people or ruin someone's life, why can't he give her the benefit of doubt? And personally for me, even during the anniversary drama, I didn't like that way Sai belittled his efforts by creating a fire out of smoke, but her reaction was also valid. Virat didn't bother clearing up anything for her, but does all these things to make her feel special. What if she believes it, goes along with it and then things come crashing down? Because it has happened many a times.

And also the fact that Sai is an orphan does play a very important role in the way everyone including Virat treats her. Do you think that if Kamal Joshi was alive, Virat would dare behave with her the way he does? NO.

For me, Sai----Rat is no more. Because this relationship is just so toxic AF.

I really loved the Virat that we were introduced to, the patient, intelligent, caring, yet stern one. He knew how to put Sai in place, but without compromising on his morals and also understanding Sai's nature and her spirit. That is what made SaiRat interesting in the first place. They were two halves of a whole, two pieces of a puzzle that fit together perfectly. What was lacking in one, was present in the other. And they rubbed each other's corners off.

But now, Virat absolutely lacks morals or anything good at all. And to match his stride, they are butchering Sai's character now to make her a mellow, stupid-in-love doormat, who wants nothing but love from her husband.

And Aaba's Sai is now truly lost.

I'm tagging a few people because I would love to hear your opinion on my take, or correct me if I'm forgetting something.

Love,

Niya🤗

Originally posted by: LadyWhistledown

I personally feel that Virat does not love Sai at all. He might be attracted to her, but I don't think he loves her. And whatever he feels for her is love, it is definitely very conditional. According to me, you can never wholeheartedly love someone without trusting them, respecting them and being honest with them. And Virat definitely doesn't trust, respect or be honest with Sai. I personally feel like his idea of love is completely twisted, and very very selfish. He will be in love with her as long as she does something good for the family and keeps up the act of being a good bahu. But the minute she does something that doesn't fall in line with his feelings, he loses it.

And for those who say that he immediately repents all the wrong that he did to her, what is the use of crying over spilt milk? When he is so aware that Sai can never do something that will bring harm to people or ruin someone's life, why can't he give her the benefit of doubt? And personally for me, even during the anniversary drama, I didn't like that way Sai belittled his efforts by creating a fire out of smoke, but her reaction was also valid. Virat didn't bother clearing up anything for her, but does all these things to make her feel special. What if she believes it, goes along with it and then things come crashing down? Because it has happened many a times.

And also the fact that Sai is an orphan does play a very important role in the way everyone including Virat treats her. Do you think that if Kamal Joshi was alive, Virat would dare behave with her the way he does? NO.

For me, Sai----Rat is no more. Because this relationship is just so toxic AF.

I really loved the Virat that we were introduced to, the patient, intelligent, caring, yet stern one. He knew how to put Sai in place, but without compromising on his morals and also understanding Sai's nature and her spirit. That is what made SaiRat interesting in the first place. They were two halves of a whole, two pieces of a puzzle that fit together perfectly. What was lacking in one, was present in the other. And they rubbed each other's corners off.

But now, Virat absolutely lacks morals or anything good at all. And to match his stride, they are butchering Sai's character now to make her a mellow, stupid-in-love doormat, who wants nothing but love from her husband.

And Aaba's Sai is now truly lost.

I'm tagging a few people because I would love to hear your opinion on my take, or correct me if I'm forgetting something.

Love,

Niya🤗

Totally agree

For me totally toxic- he let his fam abuse a teen , called her jungli and what not , his so called bff narcissistic ex called her nurse Shani etc yet he did not say a word.

Being possesive is done in excess in ITV and movies it is not done. She can't suspect his physical and emo closeness to his ex but he can question her causual friends

The throwing out if house and denying food withholding affection is gaslighting.

I love u now which I have not explicitly told u so u should love me back and accept it.

His mother is verbally and emo abused all the time and he does not intervene

His kaka did a crime by changing doc but no legal punishment

His bro is his so called bestie and one person he can give his life for and he has lied cheated him. Telling partial lies and truth about delusional pp also is a crime.

If people in love behave like this then that love is toxic

Love is liberating , it has respect and care.