Surprising - Page 5

Originally posted by: tptwi

Completely agree with you about Samrat feeling utterly betrayed by Virat. I don't think Pakhi has much to do with the crux of his pain, to be honest. Yes, he was smitten by her and fell in love with her (in 2 days apparently 🤣)... but he trusted Virat more than himself. When he tells Sai that he does not want to hear Pakhi's name, perhaps the pain is more in that she is a reminder of how Virat (seemingly) deceived him.

In terms of Virat shaking his head, I think he feels responsible for this mess, and out of that guilt, he wants to try to help them give their marriage a second chance. He knows how much Samrat liked Pakhi, and since their relationship was ruined because of him, he wants them to at least try to make it work....

Didi is like instant noodles. Tastes good but harmful for health which you find out after getting addicted 🤣🤣

What you said makes sense , for him it's Virat who deceived him more than Patralekha who should have looked out for him, not deceive him

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

You know, I had the exact same thought too. I don't generally like labels, so instead of saying that Virat is a quitter ....I'd rather say that "Virat cannot gather emotional strength and fortitude required to put things right...when he finds himself in a situation which is too overwhelming for him emotionally". I think it fits well with Virat's character. What gives us fortitude during tumultuous times? What gives us emotional balance and 'viveksheelta' to put right a messy or difficult situation? It all comes down to EQ - the ability to process emotions. From what we have known if Virat - Virat has always dealt with his emotions by suppressing them or deflecting them. It was so evident when he gave the vaada to Pakhi during Samrakhi wedding - of all the options that were available to him - he took the route that was the "easiest' but also least productive.

Pooja....Virat does fight as much as he can for his relationship with Sai. He sincerely apologizes not caring about his pride(which afflicts lesser men), shows his earnestness in wanting the relationship. And Sai gives in seeing his sincerity because she is his wife.

But Samrat's case is different. Virat being sorry is not going to change Samrat's mind. And he knows that. And the issue between them is huge

For that, he needs to show lot of strength, to be proactive - steps have to be taken, efforts have to be made to clear the MU, difficult decisions have to be made....all these are outside the gambit of Virat's emotional quotient.

I agree with much of what you have said here, but I still don't think that Virat trying to leave with Sai was him giving up. At that point, I don't think he had even registered the reason for Samrat's anger...maybe it was subconscious, but it wasn't until he was able to look through Samrat's words later on in the conversation that it clicked for him. I already described why I thought he wanted to leave in another post, but the gist of it is that even if Sai had not stopped him, I think that he would have been back and/or found a way to try to further convince him to return, because the reason for him seemingly "giving up" was that under such pain of rejection, a person can truly shut down out of desperation. Once they started talking, he quickly realized that nothing he said would convince Samrat to return (because he understood why Samrat was acting this way), and so he let Sai handle the situation... because he knew she had the best shot of making him return home. Even if Virat had revealed the entire past there and then, would Samrat have believed him? In that moment, all of his wounds were reopened, because he never actually dealt with that pain. Rather, he ran away from it and suppressed it within himself.

Virat told Samrat just to come home and he can see for himself that things are not what they perceives them to believe. Again, the issue of him wanting to prove himself through his actions and not words is coming up... and regarding this point, I second what you have said- that he lacks the emotional quotient to be able to express himself via his words.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Didi is like instant noodles. Tastes good but harmful for health which you find out after getting addicted 🤣🤣

What you said makes sense , for him it's Virat who deceived him more than Patralekha who should have looked out for him, not deceive him

Please... didi tastes good? na baba na 🤣

Thanks for the update Neerja. It was a good episode. Thankfully there were no zillat arena scenes as well. Virat's reaction really put me down today. He managed to meet his Jeeva, his life and he was so easily ready to step back because Samrat refused to come. Virat should have atleast tried to tell him once that whatever your issues are with me, let me explain them to you then you take a call whether to come back or not. Sai was doing all the weightlifting as far as convincing Samrat was concerned🤔

I hope that Virat could understand the meaning behind Samrat's words regarding Pakhi. It's high time he comes clean to everyone concerned on the circumstances leading to the vaada and his current stand. Virat's non-confrontational behaviour will do him no good. He needs to speak up and be more assertive.

I'm just hoping and praying that the darling of the makers is held equally or more responsible in this fiasco and answers will be demanded from her too. Because I'm getting a feeling that she will go scot free and all the burden of guilt will be passed on to Virat only. That will be the worst possible way to deal with this track.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

You know, I had the exact same thought too. I don't generally like labels, so instead of saying that Virat is a quitter ....I'd rather say that "Virat cannot gather emotional strength and fortitude required to put things right...when he finds himself in a situation which is too overwhelming for him emotionally". I think it fits well with Virat's character. What gives us fortitude during tumultuous times? What gives us emotional balance and 'viveksheelta' to put right a messy or difficult situation? It all comes down to EQ - the ability to process emotions. From what we have known if Virat - Virat has always dealt with his emotions by suppressing them or deflecting them. It was so evident when he gave the vaada to Pakhi during Samrakhi wedding - of all the options that were available to him - he took the route that was the "easiest' but also least productive.

Pooja....Virat does fight as much as he can for his relationship with Sai. He sincerely apologizes not caring about his pride(which afflicts lesser men), shows his earnestness in wanting the relationship. And Sai gives in seeing his sincerity because she is his wife.

But Samrat's case is different. Virat being sorry is not going to change Samrat's mind. And he knows that. And the issue between them is huge. He needs to show lot of strength, to be proactive - steps have to be taken, efforts have to be made to clear the MU, difficult decisions have to be made....all these are outside the limit of Virat's emotional quotient.

Well written ❤️❤️

Yes Virat hates confrontations which might question/confront relationships. If you notice he did the same in initial episodes with Kaku and Ashwini , he does the same with ninand and Aai, Sai and Pakhi , Sai and himself and the list goes on 😂

Loved your analysis. Somehow even I liked today’s episode.

Originally posted by: tptwi

I agree with much of what you have said here, but I still don't think that Virat trying to leave with Sai was him giving up. At that point, I don't think he had even registered the reason for Samrat's anger...maybe it was subconscious, but it wasn't until he was able to look through Samrat's words later on in the conversation that it clicked for him. I already described why I thought he wanted to leave in another post, but the gist of it is that even if Sai had not stopped him, I think that he would have been back and/or found a way to try to further convince him to return. Once they started talking, he quickly realized that nothing he said would convince Samrat to return (because he understood why Samrat was acting this way), and so he let Sai handle the situation... because he knew she had the best shot of making him return home. Even if Virat had revealed the entire past there and then, would Samrat have believed him? In that moment, all of his wounds were reopened, because he never actually dealt with that pain. Rather, he ran away from it and suppressed it within himself.

Virat told Samrat just to come home and he can see for himself that things are not what they perceives them to believe. Again, the issue of him wanting to prove himself through his actions and not words is coming up... and regarding this point, I second what you have said- that he lacks the emotional quotient to be able to express himself via his words.

Oh i absolutely didn't mean he would have left Samrat to rot in the place. All i meant to say was that he would not have been able to gather his courage or strength. Him pulling Sai was not an act of abandoning ship, rather a case of feeling extremely negative very quickly.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Oh i absolutely didn't mean he would have left Samrat to rot in the place. All i meant to say was that he would not have been able to gather his courage or strength. Him pulling Sai was not an act of abandoning ship, rather a case of feeling negative and helpless.

Acha, sorry... I got confused because that is what people in the topic were talking about before 🤣

In that case, I agree with everything you have written ❤️

Originally posted by: tptwi

Acha, sorry... I got confused because that is what people in the topic were talking about before 🤣

In that case, I agree with everything you have written ❤️

But you know Pooja, that's what it will eventually come to....Samrat continuing to rot in the Ashram and Virat being dejected in CN. Virat may try to convince Samrat to return a few times...and it Samrat doesn't return, then Virat doesn't know any way out to change his decision. So he may give up mentally out of his helplessness, although he may still try - although he would be very very dejected and it will eat away his heart.

Interesting discussion

Originally posted by: Rdigest

So I was watching the last scene where Sai brings up Pakhi again and Samrat says never to bring Patralekha's name infront of him and Virat shaking his head in disagreement.

I am wondering how hard it must be for Samrat to even look at Virat and going back to that same house where he was deceived by the two of them. Imagine listening to your wife confessing love to your brother on your wedding night. Whatever maybe the past he might have forgive, but this also means Virat was also talking to her on her wedding night. This is deception right? I wonder what exactly was Virat even thinking when talking to her when she was screaming I love you with a house full of wedding guests. How was this even friendship and she still continues to declare her love for him and he still was shocked that Samrat wanted to divorce her 🙄. Is Patraleka more important than his own brother who clearly deserves better ?

Pakhi is 90% responsible for Samrats miseries and broken heart but Virat added the much needed 10% to shatter him completely.

Adding a few if interested to know your views

Morally speaking this was deception and both Pakhi and Virat were wrong..

Bold - They were both overwhelmed by emotions.. It was during that night when she came in contact with reality being her ex's vahini in his house. I think she never imagined a scenario where the entire family would place their hopes for a future generation in her hands hoping her to love and embrace her life with Samrat. Her thoughts during the wedding was clouded and her focus was completely on remaining close to Virat. She was not thinking when she made that call.

Virat on the other hand was guilty, tired and still was in the fresh phase of love failure.. he too missed to think about the repercussions of this late night call with his ex and current Vahini.

Italicized - Both idiots were not thinking at all.. they decided switch off their logical side and let their emotional side overtake.

Virat's reaction to Samrat's decision to divorce Pakhi - He sure was shocked right.. I think at this point there is a part of him still guilty for leading Pakhi to that marriage by giving a Vaada and conveniently breaking the vaada once he fell in love. There must be a small corner in his heart which feels Pakhi can get better and she too can fall in love with his brother if both Sammy and Pakhi gave chance to each other. It's again his guilt ruling him today.

@ Green - He doesn’t think so.. he thinks both can fall in love and build a better future for each other.. He knows she has crossed the line so many times and would even question if there is redemption for her in future. All said and done, he would assume that Pakhi's rage and her stubbornness would vanish once she finds love.. the way he found with Sai.

He is completely wrong though and Sammy (though a stupid guy who left his mom in agony) deserves a better life partner.. 😂

#SAVESAMMY