Surprising - Page 6

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

But you know Pooja, that's what it will eventually come to....Samrat continuing to rot in the Ashram and Virat being dejected in CN. Virat may try to convince Samrat to return a few times...and it Samrat doesn't return, then Virat doesn't know any way out to change his decision. So he'll probably stop trying out of helplessness - although he would be very very dejected and it will eat away his heart.

Hmm... I'm not sure about this. I feel that he would bring Mansi and others to the ashram... he would do everything in his power to bring Samrat home... I personally don't feel that he would ever give up just based on how much he loves Samrat and the bond they have been shown to share.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

You know, I had the exact same thought too. I don't generally like labels, so instead of saying that Virat is a quitter ....I'd rather say that "Virat cannot gather emotional strength and fortitude required to put things right...when he finds himself in a situation which is too overwhelming for him emotionally". I think it fits well with Virat's character. What gives us fortitude during tumultuous times? What gives us emotional balance and 'viveksheelta' to put right a messy or difficult situation? It all comes down to EQ - the ability to process emotions. From what we have known if Virat - Virat has always dealt with his emotions by suppressing them or deflecting them. It was so evident when he gave the vaada to Pakhi during Samrakhi wedding - of all the options that were available to him - he took the route that was the "easiest' but also least productive.

Pooja....Virat does fight as much as he can for his relationship with Sai. He sincerely apologizes not caring about his pride(which afflicts lesser men), shows his earnestness in wanting the relationship. And Sai gives in seeing his sincerity because she is his wife.

But Samrat's case is different. Virat being sorry is not going to change Samrat's mind. And he knows that. And the issue between them is huge. He needs to show lot of strength, to be proactive - steps have to be taken, efforts have to be made to clear the MU, difficult decisions have to be made....all these are outside the limit of Virat's emotional quotient.

Worded better.. exactly what I was saying.. just that I came across too blunt 😆

Originally posted by: tptwi

Hmm... I'm not sure about this. I feel that he would bring Mansi and others to the ashram... he would do everything in his power to bring Samrat home... I personally don't feel that he would ever give up just based on how much he loves Samrat and the bond they have been shown to share.

Hmm....I think you are right....I agree.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Hmm... I'm not sure about this. I feel that he would bring Mansi and others to the ashram... he would do everything in his power to bring Samrat home... I personally don't feel that he would ever give up just based on how much he loves Samrat and the bond they have been shown to share.

Is that the topic of discussion? I just read a couple of pots and started typing!y replies. What consensus has been reached...would Virat give up or keep trying. Vote now.

I find myself oscillating.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I was talking about how he was not ready to give her a closure, till was evident that she still has feelings for him.. Since he thought he has moved on, she too will.. Just in case of Sai he thinks, she he forgot the waada the deal..she might/should as well without needing to talk..

Virat tries to not get into confrontations.. thats his character trait.

Yes, I feel this trait of Ghajini Chavan too annoying.. he never tries to stand up.. confront and solve a situation.. Just because he moved on and doesn’t wanna think about Vaada or his past.. he assumes Sai and Pakhi should forget too.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

You know, I had the exact same thought too. I don't generally like labels, so instead of saying that Virat is a quitter ....I'd rather say that "Virat cannot gather emotional strength and fortitude required to put things right...when he finds himself in a situation which is too overwhelming for him emotionally". I think it fits well with Virat's character. What gives us fortitude during tumultuous times? What gives us emotional balance and 'viveksheelta' to put right a messy or difficult situation? It all comes down to EQ - the ability to process emotions. From what we have known if Virat - Virat has always dealt with his emotions by suppressing them or deflecting them. It was so evident when he gave the vaada to Pakhi during Samrakhi wedding - of all the options that were available to him - he took the route that was the "easiest' but also least productive.

Pooja....Virat does fight as much as he can for his relationship with Sai. He sincerely apologizes not caring about his pride(which afflicts lesser men), shows his earnestness in wanting the relationship. And Sai gives in seeing his sincerity because she is his wife.

But Samrat's case is different. Virat being sorry is not going to change Samrat's mind. And he knows that. And the issue between them is huge. He needs to show lot of strength, to be proactive - steps have to be taken, efforts have to be made to clear the MU, difficult decisions have to be made....all these are outside the limit of Virat's emotional quotient.

Upon reading this again, I think I understand more now why I was disagreeing with Asmi to begin with. @bolded: Is it that Virat cannot gather the emotional strength required or that he does not realize that strength is required in the first place since he is so blinded in his own feelings? Not to sound like a jalebi here, but I think there is a difference....I tend to think it is the latter.

This kind of goes back to the whole issue of why he does not clear the vaada to Sai... because he does not realize that it is necessary in the first place...

And the issue of why he won't confess... because he thinks that his actions will be enough....

Even today, he told Samrat just to come home and he will feel that things are different than he has understood them to be.... again, placing the emphasis on actions over words....

Originally posted by: tptwi

Upon reading this again, I think I understand more now why I was disagreeing with Asmi to begin with. @bolded: Is it that Virat cannot gather the emotional strength required or that he does not realize that strength is required in the first place since he is so blinded in his own feelings? Not to sound like a jalebi here, but I think there is a difference....I tend to think it is the latter.

This kind of goes back to the whole issue of why he does not clear the vaada to Sai... because he does not realize that it is necessary in the first place...

This is my never ending question regarding Virat ....which I've been thinking over for a long time...and trying to hint at during our early morning discussion with laksh.

I think him not clearing the vaada is a bit different....not applicable to this discussion I think....

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Is that the topic of discussion? I just read a couple of pots and started typing!y replies. What consensus has been reached...would Virat give up or keep trying. Vote now.

I find myself oscillating.

I personally see Virat as someone who is the complete opposite of someone who gives up...especially when it comes to those he loves, so I think he would keep trying to bring Samrat home until it worked.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Is that the topic of discussion? I just read a couple of pots and started typing!y replies. What consensus has been reached...would Virat give up or keep trying. Vote now.

I find myself oscillating.

I believe he will give up...till he is coaxed by someone..

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

This is my never ending question regarding Virat ....which I've been thinking over for a long time...and trying to hint at during our early morning discussion with laksh.

I think him not clearing the vaada is a bit different....not applicable to this discussion I think....

True.. I have not been able to understand his reasons.. But yeah to some extent I agree to Pooja...He fails to understand the need and thats what I pointed out in my previous post..He assumes things and fails to have an Emotional quotient w.r.t. other person and also is too negative.. He gets into self guilt mode, keeps berating himself, punishing himself but would not go and deal it hand on...after having tried once..