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Posted: 4 years ago
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So i found it interesting that virat was ready to give up on taking Samrat back so quickly. He barely put up a fight. He just said -chalo n was leaving....where did his fight go?! I feel like he needed to show more desperation to take Samrat back....

Is his hesitation because he had subconsciously already realized that it was his past with pp that made Samrat leave? So he didn't feel any haq....

It was Sai who managed to emotionally tug at Samrat heartstrings and make him melt. First she gave him mansi buas vaasta but ultimately what got him to agree to go was Sai essentially asking Samrat if he was man enough to face his wife and tell her that their relationship was over. On paper she is his wife so as the true gentleman, a righteous man and a self respecting one- it is his responsibility to officially free pp from the shackles of their unwanted relationship.

As soon as Sai suggested that he didnt truly "free" pp because he didnt confront her, samrat agreed to go back.

Virat and everyone else- Sai, sunny, mohit all have understood that samrat left because of virat-pp.

And now the khulasa will happen from horses mouth when Samrat goes back. I want to see bk ninad, omi/sonalis reaction when samrat reveals pp's true colors. Are they still going to defend pp. Will they say anything to her or just expect samrat to move on...will pp get any repercussions for her actions? She was the one who agreed to the rishta, hid the truth from Samrat, went ahead and got married....will she be held accountable or let go scot free due to her crocodile tears?

Are they only going to force them to nibhao the marriage because log kya kahenge...

Pp needs to have her ass handed to her with some tough questions. Its about time.

I also want samrat to ask virat some tough questions on how he expected him to compromise on the very foundation of the marriage. The problem is not that pp had a past relationship or feelings or whatever, the problem is she HID it from her husband to be. And so did virat. If virat wasnt the one pp had feelings for , and virat had overheard that pp was talking to her ex boyfriend, would Virat not tell his brother that pp had a past and to clarify that before going ahead... the fact that his shaadi is based on lies is the worst thing. On the other hand Sairats marriage is tumultuous and not hunky dory but atleast there is honesty. Thats why it still isnt broken even though there are many knots in their thread of marriage. Despite the honesty, theres still so much unsaid, so many MU....has virat considered what it would be for samrat who does not even have that honesty/transparency. The least pp could've done is atleast hint to samrat that she did have a past, even if she didn't reveal that it was virat. She didnt do even that. Such a woman should definitely not be shoved upon samrat by the family. She needs to be told to leave.

Also I can understand why Sai got through to Samrat because they are very similar to each other in terms of not only core principles but personality too. Sai is essentially the female Samrat- lively, impulsive, charming, stubborn, heart of gold, generous, emotional, "proud", righteous...plus Sai can relate to Samrat's hurt. The feeling of pain knowing your spouse isnt truly yours. Atleast Sai knew the truth before marriage, but it still hurts so she can empathize with Samrat for sure. They have a kinship even though they just met....

I think Samrat's acting graph is gradually improving. Its not quite there, still work to do but i think this actor has potential. He reminds me of Ayesha. Ayesha was raw when she started but now shes such a natural, so effortless....hope to see yogi do the same.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I feel like Virat's reaction to learning that Samrat was alive, right from the beginning was a little disappointing - maybe it was the acting (although Neil is a brilliant actor and I am not questioning that), the writing or even the direction, but it just did not have the intensity I expected considering that a lot has been said in the show about the Shiva-Jeeva relationship. And yes, even his "convincing" Samrat to come back was lacklustre.


And I do agree as to why Sai was able to get through to Samrat - I think somewhere, consciously or subconsciously, Samrat registered Sai's hurt and the nature of her relationship with Virat when she said that their wedding was a compromise and situational.


It will be interesting to see how they move forward - I hope it doesn't fall short.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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3 crore promo about samrat virat milaap fell flat and now expecting something extraordinary is going to happen with flat face pakhi is out of question,

Even if samrat bring virat and pakhi past relation , just llike in the past the clown chavan will say what ever VP had was in the past now she is waiting only for you from past 1 yr without going to her parents house. she is a sanskari bahu blah blah

And our vankar and the bff director will never let pakhi down they will surly try to show her bechari, i am very confident about it . By end of the week we all will fall flat on our faces for expecting so much and getting nothing in return and wasting our time watching this crap.

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Originally posted by: bhanu

3 crore promo about samrat virat milaap fell flat and now expecting something extraordinary is going to happen with flat face pakhi is out of question,

Even if samrat bring virat and pakhi past relation , just llike in the past the clown chavan will say what ever VP had was in the past now she is waiting only for you from past 1 yr without going to her parents house. she is a sanskari bahu blah blah

And our vankar and the bff director will never let pakhi down they will surly try to show her bechari, i am very confident about it . By end of the week we all will fall flat on our faces for expecting so much and getting nothing in return and wasting our time watching this crap.


@bold Aur fir hum sab aam janta aka audience who watches this nonsense ke grand beizzati ho jaye gi.


Now even my phone has the word beizzati stored and comes up as soon as I start typing "be..."🤣

Edited by Tali_99 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Neerja,

First of all- I love the way in which you have described how Sai and Samrat are similar. While I agree with much of it, Samrat is a coward who ran away from his family and his widowed mother without thinking twice. Even today, he wasn't agreeing to go back even after Sai told him Mansi's condition (which by the way, to me, was one of Ayesha's best performances until date)... I think this is where his morals faltered in a way that Sai's never would and never could. Sai tackles all of her problems head on, no matter how difficult. No amount of pain that Samrat feels by Virat's behavior justifies his actions to me.

In addition, it was Sai who had to tell Samrat that he owes it to Pakhi to set her free. This was spot on by Sai. At the end of the day, Pakhi is waiting for Samrat due to the family members, even though she doesn't care about him at all. It is Samrat's duty to tell her that he wants to end this marriage. Again, Sai's morals shone through. Despite everything Pakhi has put her through, she was still looking out for her.


I also agree that Yogi was much improved today. His dialogue delivery still needs work, but the episode was promising. This gives me hope, because he his going to have to carry his scenes with Aish.


Regarding your uneasiness as to why Virat didn't push harder. I had a different interpretation of the scene. The second Samrat told Sai to leave or else he would say something that might hurt her, Virat did not hesitate for even a second and went to take her hand. Virat cannot see Sai insulted by anyone. I took this to be him protecting her. I keep saying that this track is going to test his love for the two most important people in his life, and this was yet another instance of that. I don't think he subconsciously realized the reason for Samrat's coldness. If anything, he was so broken that Samrat was refusing to recognize him, that he did not have the energy to fight any more in that moment. People can collapse under such emotional hurt.


But of course, Sai was not going to let this happen. The way that Sai fights for Virat's happiness is honestly something else... on an entirely different level. For those that say Sai's love towards him is not visible... this is why it's baffling to me. Sai is the one and only reason that Samrat will return to CN... just like she was the one and only reason that Devi and Pulkit were reunited, Harini was accepted, Shiv bua's honor was defended..and the list can go on. She has made his family her own. Despite all of the abuse they have thrown at her, her love has never wavered...not even a little bit.


There was a triangle of looks being exchanged today that really forshadowed what is about to happen. When Mohit told Samrat that Sai is Virat's wife, Virat smiled. Sai looked broken and revealed the circumstances under which their marriage took place. Perhaps more powerful was the moment when Samrat says that he will set Pakhi free...Virat looks at Samrat, and Sai looks at Virat. Virat will make it his mission to keep Pakhi and Samrat together because that is how he feels Samrat will be happy. He wants him to try to make his marriage work. But, in the process, Sai will be looking to Virat, and due to Samrat's misconceptions about the past, be misunderstanding him in the process as well. These dynamics were crystal clear today and are going to be so painful. And throughout it all, Virat's love will be pouring out towards Sai.... she is his life's greatest accomplishment. The pride with which he was looking at her while she was convincing Samrat to come home.


It seems as though many believe that Virat did not understand why Samrat left. But, to me, it was quite evident that he did. Virat explicitly told Samrat that he understands what Samrat is hinting at and to just come home, because he will be able to feel that none of it is true. Again, instead of clarifying using words, he wants to use his actions. This is entirely the same situation that he is in with Sai... and again, this will bite him in the butt.


Samrat telling Mohit that he refuses to believe that Pakhi is waiting for him and then telling Sai not to say her name were both highlights of the episode. This is just the beginning, and I really hope that she is not whitewashed this time. The precap has gotten me excited for the zillat drama for once...although the way in which the samrakhi confrontation was filmed has me scared that the makers are fulling preparing to shove this ship down our throats.


Lastly, Sai and Samrat's bond is already so beautiful. She was able to break through his shell in a way that not even his own brothers could. Like you said, Neerja, perhaps Samrat already realizes what Sai is going through in terms of feeling like the third wheel. This will again create misunderstandings, but at least she will have someone who can remotely feel her pain and then hopefully make her realize how different their situations now are.

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Neerja,

First of all- I love the way in which you have described how Sai and Samrat are essentially the same person. While I agree with much of it, Samrat is a coward who ran away from his family and his widowed mother without thinking twice. Even today, he wasn't agreeing to go back even after Sai told him Mansi's condition (which by the way, to me, was one of Ayesha's best performances until date)... I think this is where his morals faltered in a way that Sai's never would and never could. Sai tackles all of her problems head on, no matter how difficult. No amount of pain that Samrat feels by Virat's behavior justifies his actions to me.

In addition, it was Sai who had to tell Samrat that he owes it to Pakhi to set her free. This was spot on by Sai. At the end of the day, Pakhi is waiting for Samrat due to the family members, even though she doesn't care about him at all. It is Samrat's duty to tell her that he wants to end this marriage. Again, Sai's morals shone through. Despite everything Pakhi has put her through, she was still looking out for her.


I also agree that Yogi was much improved today. His dialogue delivery still needs work, but the episode was promising. This gives me hope, because he his going to have to carry his scenes with Aish.


Regarding your uneasiness as to why Virat didn't push harder. I had a different interpretation of the scene. The second Samrat told Sai to leave or else he would say something that might hurt her, Virat did not hesitate for even a second and went to take her hand. Virat cannot see Sai insulted by anyone. I took this to be him protecting her. I don't think he subconsciously realized the reason for Samrat's coldness. If anything, he was so broken that Samrat was refusing to recognize him, that he did not have the energy to fight any more in that moment. People can collapse under such emotional hurt.


But of course, Sai was not going to let this happen. The way that Sai fights for Virat's happiness is honestly something else... on an entirely different level. For those that say Sai's love towards him is not visible... this is why it's baffling to me. Sai is the one and only reason that Samrat will return to CN... just like she was the one and only reason that Devi and Pulkit were reunited, Harini was accepted, Shiv bua's honor was defended..and the list can go on. She has made his family her own. Despite all of the abuse they have thrown at her, her love has never wavered...not even a little bit.


There was a triangle of looks being exchanged today that really forshadowed what is about to happen. When Mohit told Samrat that Sai is Virat's wife, Virat smiled. Sai looked broken and revealed the circumstances under which their marriage took place. Perhaps more powerful was the moment when Samrat says that he will set Pakhi free...Virat looks at Samrat, and Sai looks at Virat. Virat will make it his mission to keep Pakhi and Samrat together because that is how he feels Samrat will be happy. He wants him to try to make his marriage work. But, in the process, Sai will be looking to Virat, and due to Samrat's misconceptions about the past, be misunderstanding him in the process as well. These dynamics were crystal clear today and are going to be so painful. And throughout it all, Virat's love will be pouring out towards Sai.... she is his life's greatest accomplishment. The pride with which he was looking at her while she was convincing Samrat to come home.


It seems as though many believe that Virat did not understand why Samrat left. But, to me, it was quite evident that he did. Virat explicitly told Samrat that he understands what Samrat is hinting at and to just come home, because he will be able to feel that none of it is true. Again, instead of clarifying using words, he wants to use his actions. This is entirely the same situation that he is in with Sai... and again, this will bite him in the butt.


Samrat telling Mohit that he refuses to believe that Pakhi is waiting for him and then telling Sai not to say her name were both highlights of the episode. This is just the beginning, and I really hope that she is not whitewashed this time. The precap has gotten me excited for the zillat drama for once...although the way in which the samrakhi confrontation was filmed has me scared that the makers are fulling preparing to shove this ship down our throats.


Lastly, Sai and Samrat's bond is already so beautiful. She was able to break through his shell in a way that not even his own brothers could. Like you said, Neerja, perhaps Samrat already realizes what Sai is going through in terms of feeling like the third wheel. This will again create misunderstandings, but at least she will have someone who can remotely feel her pain and then hopefully make her realize how different their situations now are.

@bold

I did feel it. I felt happy to be honest. :)

@Red

Loved it and it is in character with Sai. The way she brought the fairness angle. I wish she uses the same fairness and try to understand Virat's PoV before assuming things for him! But she becomes a wife there and it is her life, so what she experiences is at different level.


@blue

I agree too. Virat is always better as a human being for me. And ofcourse Sai the best. Virat is selfish at times, Sai is selfless...

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@bold

I did feel it. I felt happy to be honest. :)

@Red

Loved it and it is in character with Sai. The way she brought the fairness angle. I wish she uses the same fairness and try to understand Virat's PoV before assuming things for him! But she becomes a wife there and it is her life, so what she experiences is at different level.


@blue

I agree too. Virat is always better as a human being for me. And ofcourse Sai the best. Virat is selfish at times, Sai is selfless...


Areeyy I didn't tag you because I thought you didn't want to discuss 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi


Areeyy I didn't tag you because I thought you didn't want to discuss 🤣


cant escape forum. my getaway. Yeah still tired but peeking in! Cant miss the Neerja's review thread. My favorite.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yes Samrat was cowardly to run away and not even think about his mother. So mansi has been put through hell for no fault. But i definitely got emotional as i heard Samrat say that kisi ke jaane seh vakt/zindagi nahi rukti. He took care of financial security of his mother before he left. But he still acted far too impulsively. He was hurt that he was betrayed by his shiva and that the foundation of his marriage was a lie. Sai has been impulsive too but in different circumstances though...

But she seemed to know exactly what to say to make Samrat agree to come back.

So yes, Sai and Samrat are not exactly same but theres many similarities in their personality n thought process. Thats why Sai has managed to get through to him in a way that no one else could.

But i think there are many ways in which virat could have atleast attempted to convince Samrat....if he didnt want Sai to get insulted he could've said Sai toh sirf iss liye sab kar rahi hai because she recognized you but she barely knows you and proceeded to take over the conversation..... so i was left disappointed by how easily he let go....These things subconsciously will leave an impact on Sai too. If Virat could let go of his so called love pp then and his brother today, tomm it could be her too. Sai fears exactly that. That she is not truly his. That her zimmedari is all that matters to him, not her. So instead of risking heartbreak later, she is harshly reacting now itself.

Sai is very much black/white...she will learn to appreciate the greys with time but its noteworthy that in her emotional speech, she only talked about mansi and didnt mention how much Virat has missed his jeeva. She knows but she didnt mention it because she knew it would make samrat angry n get his guards up.

While I know its not deliberate on virats part to have created this mess n really 95% of it is ALL pp's doing, virat will definitely need to come clean on his part and battle has his own demons. from his pov hes right. From his actions he is trying to show everyone that now he does have clarity in his thoughts anout who/what he wants but unfortunately people have not grasped it....n he will either have to spell it out until people get it or wait patiently until everyone gets to the same page as him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Haven't watched yet.


Thanks for your post

I truly hope Virat uses his brains and clarifies the situation clearly. Now there are two people who have these misunderstandings. Sai ..I can still say she is confused. But Samrat doesn't know anything. The more jalebis Virat makes, it will lead to more misunderstandings with Samrat.

My fear is in order to white wash Pakhi, I hope they don't make Virat hold back. There's no point to this track at all. He has to become more assertive about his feelings.

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