Question to moderators: Why disclaimers in posts?

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@undisclosed

Trailblazer

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Posted: 14 years ago

#111

i agree and yet i even felt the need to add a "disclaimer' to one of my posts...it was mainly against bashing...which is actualy a rule on IF...but i did add the part about not posting if you don't agree...but i guess that was because it wasn't up for discussion...that sounded terrible😆 ...i have to admit that lately i feel a little scared of certain groups' ways of "discussing"...

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lily_k25

@lily_k25

Dazzler

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Posted: 14 years ago

#112

Originally posted by: an12345678
Lily: It's difficult to ignore what one does not like as that view might be offending. One may like to post in such threads to express displeasure, or give one's point of view. Silence always does not lead to harmony.

Plus, Who are WE here? Sadly, the WE has decided to block movement of varied thoughts in the forum.

haila..😆..we block movement ..that too of varied thoughts ?? it cant be yaar...
look...even though we write notes or ps on our posts...it never did stop others to post their views..thats y i said..we did it for our own sanity...not for others..😊..
if they couldnt post their thoughts in our threads (not that they cant ...they could)..they had several different threads to voice their opinions...may be not in one thread..but in some thread or other they do voice their opinion..so blocking movement of varied thoughts doesnt arise here..and we definitely are not those who block it..if there is one :)

ok..agreed that it may be difficult to ignore if its offending or degrading..even i cant ignore such stuffs..
but i dont recall saying or putting disclaimers in offending manner mate...we put it politely and hoped that there would be no war around in the forum..thats all.

yes..one can express his displeasure or his point of view...but in a reasonable way...we never stopped that or said no to healthy discussions...its expressing their displeasure by bashing or calling names or by degrading ones character is wat we dont agree with and thus this disclaimer😊

and about 'WE' here...i just used it as a part of speech mate..no inner meaning to it...i was referring to myself mostly who started putting up the disclaimers for the reasons i stated in my previous post..and definitely not to create groups

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@Silentsoul

Sparkler

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Posted: 14 years ago

#113

Originally posted by: jyoti06
Yes I agree we do need a general solution about this whole issue...

I m talking to the GMs and Admins as well about this disclaimer issue and so you all will hear from them soon...so till that time plss hv some patience😊

Thanks jyoti for this solution. But this should be the solution to start with for this problem. Because a debate never lead to unique solution. Views are usually divided into varying ratio between debating group . 100% consensus on debate require too much margin of error.

Anyway if you think its best to go to GM than I want to send them link to few thread and screenshots of so called healthy debate.(snide remarks and assault). Its important to support and strengthened my case about need for disclaimer for topic maker in GF nowdays to save themselves from others assault.

Edited by kuls11 - 14 years ago

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-pixie-

@-pixie-

Rocker

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Posted: 14 years ago

#114

Lily- The dichotomy is that on one hand you say the disclaimer is for your own sanity since you do not like how certain people discuss your posts. and the disclaimers DO read- Don't post if you do not agree! Then for your own sanity- are these posts not best made in a CC?

The fact that you are making them on a public forum, tells me that you would like other people to comment on your post. Now why would the TM restrict their disclaimers only to members who agree?

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-pixie-

@-pixie-

Rocker

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Posted: 14 years ago

#115

Originally posted by: kuls11

Thanks jyoti for this solution. But this should be the solution to start with for this problem. Because a debate or discussion never lead to unique solution. Views are usually divided into varying ratio between debating group . 100% consensus on debate require too much margin of error.

Anyway if you think its best to go to GM than I want to send them link to few thread and screenshots of so called healthy debate.(snide remarks and assault). Its important to support and strengthened my case about need for disclaimer for topic maker in GF nowdays to save themselves from others assault.

Has putting up disclaimers really helped you? Do you also feel a loss in the quality of discussion as well because of the disclaimer(s)?

If members have been warned and action taken- and the post which everyone seems to be talking did go through this- then why the need for disclaimers?

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Taiyo

@Taiyo

Stunner

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Posted: 14 years ago

#116

@Lily: How do you define unreasonable, what you may find unreasonable, it may be full of reason for someone else. Yes, the language should not slip and become abusive. The real problem, most of the topic makers these days are unable to handle a different opinion.

I guess, we both have different views and are going to stick to them. 😊 I do not prefer such disclaimers as I cannot read anything with my hands tied (Read Disclaimer). My reading or not reading a post won't make a difference for sure, but I find that quite offending and since this thread is Disclaimer Free, I am posting my views. 😊

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Arwen11

@Arwen11

Sparkler

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Posted: 14 years ago

#117

Originally posted by: kuls11

Thanks jyoti for this solution. But this should be the solution to start with for this problem. Because a debate or discussion never lead to unique solution. Views are usually divided into varying ratio between debating group . 100% consensus on debate require too much margin of error.

Anyway if you think its best to go to GM than I want to send them link to few thread and screenshots of so called healthy debate.(snide remarks and assault). Its important to support and strengthened my case about need for disclaimer for topic maker in GF nowdays to save themselves from others assault.

@Bold - the best part of debates is that there may never be 100% consensus ... u agree to disagree and still remain on amicable terms ... And why r we looking for consensus on debates anyway? that is totally contrary to what discussion forums are for ...some of the best and most memorable threads in this forum are the ones in which different members debated (without malice or crossing any lines)

@underline .. and i dont see how disclaimers prevent this ... those who want to mock will mock regardless of the disclaimer. Our part is to report such posts and mods part is to take appropriate action.

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@Silentsoul

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Posted: 14 years ago

#118

Originally posted by: -pixie-

Has putting up disclaimers really helped you? Do you also feel a loss in the quality of discussion as well because of the disclaimer(s)?

If members have been warned and action taken- and the post which everyone seems to be talking did go through this- then why the need for disclaimers?

As I replied to your friend for same question. For which I stated my reply clear and cut just few pages back. I really don't like discussion which go in circles and seriously I have some real work to do than this endless virtual debate.
My reply was for jyoti to end this conversation from my side and to support her solution not restart a circle debate. As she said no solution lets go to GM, I support her decision lets solve this with GM . I will give reason to GM with screenshots for my choice.
For effectiveness of disclaimers:
As I said it my right and choice to use it, if its not effective or not I can only make judgment on it not anyone else.

But If I am using it it gives clear indication probably its working fine for me. Than I don't think any need to question my choice or right. All I know I have right I will use it.

Hope I made myself clear my response was to support jyoti solution not to restart any debate.

Edited by kuls11 - 14 years ago

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@Silentsoul

Sparkler

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Posted: 14 years ago

#119

Originally posted by: Arwen.

@Bold - the best part of debates is that there may never be 100% consensus ... u agree to disagree and still remain on amicable terms ... And why r we looking for consensus on debates anyway? that is totally contrary to what discussion forums are for ...some of the best and most memorable threads in this forum are the ones in which different members debated (without malice or crossing any lines)

@underline .. and i dont see how disclaimers prevent this ... those who want to mock will mock regardless of the disclaimer. Our part is to report such posts and mods part is to take appropriate action.

As I replied to your friend. I really don't like discussion which go in circles and seriously I have some real work to do than this endless virtual debate.
My reply was for jyoti to end this conversation from my side and to support her solution not restart a circle debate. As she said no solution lets go to GM, I support her decision lets solve this with GM . I will give reason to GM with screenshots for my choice.

Hope I made myself clear, my reply was to support jyoti decision not restart any debate. I am not interested in one.

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hindu4lyf

@hindu4lyf

Rocker

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Posted: 14 years ago

#120

Originally posted by: jyoti06

How about a disclaimer saying "Plss no personal or sarcastic attacks in my post..all r welcome to give their views without attacknig anyone"😳

That is already part of the IF COC so what purpose does it serve to be repeating that in every other topic?

If you don't do that anyway, you will be warned/banned..simple as that really. Disclaimers of that sort won't make a difference to a rule that is already in place and is already being enforced.😕

Edited by hindu4lyf - 14 years ago

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