Explicit content is NOT allowed on I-F

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi everyone,
It saddens me to have to write this message, but I am incredibly frustrated with what I am seeing in this section day after day. I don't know how to say it any more clearly than I have for the past several years, but I will try again. Graphic/explicit/adult content is against the code of conduct and is NOT allowed ANYWHERE on India-Forums. If we see any such content in the FF section, and the writer does not comply with our request for them to remove it immediately,we will close the FF and raise the warning level of the writer. This has to end now.
I would like to thank everyone who has taken the effort to report such FFs. Your help is really appreciated. However, there are many more readers who "like" such chapters, comment positively on them and encourage the writer to continue with this content. If you are one of these readers, please stop and think to yourself: Is is necessary for stories to be explicit and po*nographic in order for them to be entertaining? Do you think the young children that are on I-F (some of them as young as 9 from what I have heard) should be exposed to such things? Do we want I-F to no longer be the family friendly forum that we all know and love?
Again, I would like to emphasize that we do not expect all our writers to write at the level of children. Mature concepts and themes are perfectly okay, but they do not need to be accompanied by graphic description. They can be written is a much more tasteful manner.
Thank you for your attention.
FF Development Team
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SuhanaSafar


I would like to thank everyone who has taken the effort to report such FFs. Your help is really appreciated. However, there are many more readers who "like" such chapters, comment positively on them and encourage the writer to continue with this content. If you are one of these readers, please stop and think to yourself: Is is necessary for stories to be explicit and po*nographic in order for them to be entertaining? Do you think the young children that are on I-F (some of them as young as 9 from what I have heard) should be exposed to such things? Do we want I-F to no longer be the family friendly forum that we all know and love?



I understand the rules of the site have been decided by the makers and I can't change them but I'd still like to make my point known.

It is not my job as a member of this site or as a writer to parent or protect other people's children. If a parent allows their 9 year old child to watch mature content (as 90% of the shows discussed on this site are) and allows them to visit a forum to discuss such content then the responsibility lies with them to monitor and protect their children from 'corruption' or 'exposure' to adult material.

The reason there are a lot more likes and comments for such chapters rather than reports is because the average age of the site is much higher than a solitary 9 year old and by asking people to take into account one or two pre-pubescent children and ignore the larger majority of adults is attempting to cater to the lowest minority and stifing writer's creativity.

The reader is fully in control of what they read. They can choose to exit or press the back button and are not being forced the read the FFs. If they really do want to read such material and have the freedom from their parents to use the internet they will readily find such material whether it's on IF or not.

Originally posted by: SuhanaSafar


Again, I would like to emphasize that we do not expect all our writers to write at the level of children. Mature concepts and themes are perfectly okay, but they do not need to be accompanied by graphic description. They can be written is a much more tasteful manner.



To be honest it does seem to me as if you're suggesting we write at the level of 9 year olds. It seems to me (from the FFs and writers you have flagged) that all sex scenes=po*nographic in the mind of the development teams.

Books and movies which contain scenes of sexual nature are not automatically categorised as po*n. They are labelled as having mature content and reader/viewer discretion is advised.

As many of the FFs involve characters who have not yet gotten together on their respective shows, the FFs have the characters married or in relationships because the readers and viewers are anxious to see such scenes. Adults in relationships do participate in romantic and sexual activities and therefore FFs will reflect that.



Therefore I would like clearer guidelines on what we can and cannot write. I would like to know what exactly you deem 'tasteful' and what exactly is 'po*nographic'.


Can we or can we not mention the characters have sex? What words can and can't we use? What actions can and can't we describe? Is kissing allowed? Hugging even? Or are they just supposed to hold hands and sit on separate beds watching Tom and Jerry? Or is hand holding too explicit as well? (Please excuse the sarcasm but this just screams censorship and that is very frustrating to me.)


I hope you will respond to my questions and provide clearer guidelines for us to follow.
Edited by nayika - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree that stuff on this site should be tasteful and not have content simply with the intention to titillate. But then that is my opinion, and what I consider tasteful or plainly po*nographic depends on my sensibilities.

I agree with Nayika, on all her points. Description of physical proximity, or intercourse, is very dependent on how its perceived by the reader, as also on how the author spins it into her story.

Children , as young as that, have no business being on the internet unsupervised. And its the responsibility of their parents/guardians to tend to them.

Internet has provided a very different mode of expression and understanding. Sometimes deficient knowledge of language too does not prove a deterrent to understanding what the writer means by her words. Although , some may find that to be in ill taste as well.

So it really is not a bad thing if readers identify with something you don't see, and like it.
I agree some content is pure garbage, and trashy.. but its you (IF) who has to make diligent effort in identifying and curbing such material yourself, instead of making stringent rules for all.

Sometimes there is content that is disliked and rejected by the masses , but the content itself is not wrong, simply thought provoking or honest. We must encourage mature views and open mindedness on this forum. after all, we are discussing mature Indian shows, mature subjects, not kiddie channels.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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to be honest, most of the writer left just because of this reason, and this is the only reason i dont update on regular basis.
being a writer we all prefer to write things which explains our story, and i have seen writer and myself that we do take special care while writing because we our selves doesn't want to write down things which makes the reader feel disgusted.
and each and everyone knows the rules here, plus people here are not children they all know stuff and they demand for it too, i myself gets many pm related to it.
and i agree with the above posts
no romantic scene is pr*no and due to such restriction i myself feel trapped on what to write?
and whether IF would recommend this part on the thread, it irritating!
atleast for me!!

Edited by funkybratz - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: funkybratz

to be honest, most of the writer left just because of this reason, and this is the only reason i dont update on regular basis.

being a writer we all prefer to write things which explains our story, and i have seen writer and myself that we do take special care while writing because we our selves doesn't want to write down things which makes the reader feel disgusted.
and each and everyone knows the rules here, plus people here are not children they all know stuff and the demand for it too, i myself gets many pm related to it.



I know people who have stopped writing on IF for this reason as well and I'm considering posting all of my stuff elsewhere as well.

Eventually all that will be left on the forum is stories written at the level of 9 year old children then everybody will be happy right? 🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I will disagree with the point that Description of physical proximity, or intercourse, is very dependent on how its perceived by the reader,

There are ffs wch have shown all this pretty decently and there ffs where even a 25 plus person cant read it, and will shut it down, its about the words and unnecessary description of the whole thing

There not "children" here yet quite young kids from 15 -18 who are curious to read things, to know things and perceive it differently. and may develop thoughts that can lead to implement it all practically too… its just matter of a little responsibility

Writers here are meant to write stories, things relevant to stories are okay, yet so many are going on tht only have such content and that so unnecessarily.

But will agree with the point if moderators will clearly tell here set of rules indicting what can b and cannot be wrote…

Thanks Mods for taking action

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Posted: 13 years ago
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i can understand your point... but where does one draw the line between what is acceptable in a family friendly website and what is not?
honestly, censorship is a very subjective matter...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nayika



I know people who have stopped writing on IF for this reason as well and I'm considering posting all of my stuff elsewhere as well.

Eventually all that will be left on the forum is stories written at the level of 9 year old children then everybody will be happy right? 🤢

i know, em trying this too, i have stopped the updates totally, such restrictions are not allowed with me, plus writer doesnt mean that people has to bound us! we should be free to write anything, and we know our boundaries.
i wont be the one wanting to make my story vulgar or disgusting! because in the end my story reflects me! and these IF rules are really making me want to remove my own FF from the forum!

to add more, em rather surprise that IF allows 9 years old children! i mean they are truly children from brain, every person on IF knows all this stuff they see on TV and that's why the come here to discuss it!
i think IF should concentrate on stopping these children to show up here! it is rather a waste to stop a writer, because once they stop them, em sure the writer will start to leave the forum!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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According to me Mods should give importance of seeing in here which FF's are mainly containing Vulgarity.. Firstly 9 yr old kidz shouldnt even be allowed to come in such forums that doesnt make any sense.. But i do respect what mods mean here by adult content it should be always in limit never explicit.
In here why not just IF clarifies us what are we expected to show on FFs.. The most saint writers also wont only show two lovers holding hands.. It depends on the writer showing the beauty of the story in a clever way that no Vulgarity reflects from the story.. Thats only how the story should be liked by people who are readers here..
And my suggestion would be that it should be clarified nicely to the writers to what limit things should be shown , otherwise many are going to feel bad and leave their stories incomplete..
A writer is showing the creativity of his or her through writing or the love that person has towards favorites.. I dont think writers should be punished in such a way. And i believe people in here as readers should prefer to read stories not cauxe of things which contain in the FF instead to love the beauty of that story and appreciate the work done by the writers.. I agree its really sad how so many likes goes towards explicit parts.. People should love a story cauxe of its concept not due to its vulgarity..
It depends on writers on how to pull of their story in a clever manner without any vulgar talks but so much limits in a story would mean writes will be on wonder what to write and what not to write..
Agree on part of limiting explicit talks but cant agree on punishing all writes by saying every romance should be limited from their stories cauxe then no magic is going to remain in any of their work..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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As someone earlier said, Censorship is a really subjective matter. While I agree to the part where some writers could feel some creative restrictions due to this rule, but seriously, in the recent times there has been utter crappy bullshit that has had 300+ likes on IF. And no, its not just about how I percieve things. I'm an adult, i don't get disgusted by sensible adult stories. But there have been some stories in here, that have truly and utterly disgusted me.

I think there should be some sort of rule that helps people distinguish between erotica and a fanfiction. I mean, the stories that are just written for sex and to get comments like, ''dude that was hawt...i'm on fire'' and all, i don't think thats something a fanfiction is all about.

I've read truly amazing fanfiction here in IF. Those writers have managed to write romance, angst and all kinds of mature stuff without being crude, or disgustingly forthcoming. And its sad, i dont find those writers here anymore.

Anyhow, either IF should have a rating system like most fanfiction sites do where a story is rated according to some norms, or either there's a common understanding between all the people that they don't end up propogating erotica.

What this fanfiction section needs, according to me, is clear definite rules of what is allowed and what is not, and readers who can effectively differentiate erotica and romance.

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