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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


Sumo took a call to break her relationship, love friendship with Shravan, thanks to Ramu. All said and done even if they said nothing to each other... they were and are a couple. Thats their unspoken rule.

She I believe should have spoken about it to Shravan at that point in time irrespective of the outcome.


She did not as she believed he will come back to her.. Talking to him was like closing that door we all know that. But I guess it back fired. She did not break the relationship. She said she wont confess there is a difference
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Posted: 9 years ago
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beautiful beautiful thoughts and analysis. you write so welll!!
have been a team shravan girl but yesterday Shravan was absolutely abominable in his behaviour and his words. whatever he has said has been poisoned darts and dont know how Suman is ever going to able to forgive him. his trust issues have compounded to a level which have become an avalanche threatening disaster in its wake, which he has been ensuring hes doing.

All that bitterness in Shravan surfaced up like lava and exploded yesterday. How is he ever going to face himself when finds out the truth about Sumo and Nirmala?

All what their journey so far has been, and though she has erred many a times, especially the Aditya-PCT issue, Suman has not been a tease any kind whatsoever, but yesterday, he says to Aditya, that the girl whom he loved, made him run after her etc. whereas it has been the otherway round. He put Suman on a pedestal, expecting her to read his innermost thoughts and behave like he felt she should and when she didnt confirm, categorised her as an amalgamation of all the women he hates.

And yes, somewhere I hope that Suman, once shes out of her numbness after listening to his venom, over the last 2 episodes, finds the strength to give it back to him, want to see s sumo like the one where she gave those glorious come-backs to Ramnath. This needs to be a battle between equals and not only Shravan insisting on blotting his copybook completely.

The road to redemption is going to be a long one, fraught with obstacles. The track needs needs to be handled with tact and balance with equal emphasis on both.

They better not go a cliched way and have him a change of heart and beliefs overnight. Plus there also has to be a transition of their equation into one of adults with a discovery of the others good, flaws and all and a mutual trust developing. Otherwise any kind of harmonised permanence to their relationship will be a mirage.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Chick, beautiful post ! I am and will always be a Sumo person and that is not to say she is right or Shravan is wrong. There is one mistake they both are doing which Adithya pointed out yesterday, they have to look from the other person's perspective. That and only that can help them. They both ask, why Sumo and why Shravan but they both don't introspect. One is feeling pain and the other is numb and they both haven't realized what they are doing when they are hurt. Whom are they hurting ? Hurting Shravan by being rude to him actually hurt Sumo the most and hurting Sumo by what he is doing he is hurting himself more every minute.

About the bashing, I stay away from those threads mostly. Right now most of them are sympathetic towards Shravan and hence his opinion is theirs. But when his opinion starts changing so will theirs.

That said, how we express pain should not be the judge of in his much pain we are. I'll tell you a personal story, my grandma passed away 10 years back. A week before that when she was in the hospital I had a sprained leg and couldn't go visit her, I wasn't even able to walk properly and she was actually recovering. I was working and was in another city. The next week she wasn't there I was too late when I reached. Not a single day has gone by without me regretting what I did. But I don't cry, does it mean that I am heartless ?
Pain cannot and should not be measured by our expressions ever. Shravan loves Sumo for what she is, not what she will be and so does Sumo, that is the beauty of their love. If Shravan's actions are justified, Sumo's inaction is justified too.

"Sometimes we love with nothing but hope.
Sometimes we cry with everything except tears."

The first one is for Shravan and the second is for Sumo. All said 😊
Edited by nith125 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Actually, the problem is not with cvs story (coz this is the story), shravan, or members here on forum and their pov regarding sumo..the problem is with the character named sumo..because the characterization of the sumo is not a easy task to understand..as i said earlier, i m only active on forum so i can say only about environment here..people on this forum can understand shravan's character 100% coz its not difficult to understand him or bringing out justification behind his every action coz we do understand him completely and i appreciate that coz i agree when people gives analysis and comments and justification(for his wrong action) BUT people on this forum fails/failed to understand sumo/suman to 100%or more than that...even the analysis post /comments/justification(for her wrong action) are not upto the mark or equal to 10% as it has to be coz these posts in favour of her also could not justify suman/sumo's character completely ...and i m glad everybody on this forum fails/failed to understand sumo/suman..coz this character is like two sides of coin..sometimes you will see one side of the coin and sometimes you will see another side of the same coin..but you will never be able to see both the sides of the coin together even if you try to see the other side of the coin with the help of the mirror...the only thing which will be in your hand is DEFEAT if you ever try to see both sides of the coin...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Actually Shravan didn't even find Vandy an ideal woman...She was the best...Of the lot...and it was a poor lot, acc to him. 😆

If Shravan sat down and wrote what he would want in an ideal woman, Suman would satisfy all that...so long as he doesn't ask for rubbish like- should satisfy mere papa's criteria.🤢😆

Basically, he needs to clear his head...But what he said was so shocking...😲


Ideal.woman is Sumo is like the chicken and egg story.😃

Shravan is just deaf dumb and blind in love. Destroying anything in his path. When would it stop? What is his goal...😆


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125

Chick, beautiful post ! I am and will always be a Sumo person and that is not to say she is right or Shravan is wrong. There is one mistake they both are doing which Adithya pointed out yesterday, they have to look from the other person's perspective. That and only that can help them. They both ask, why Sumo and why Shravan but they both don't introspect. One is feeling pain and the other is numb and they both haven't realized what they are doing when they are hurt. Whom are they hurting ? Hurting Shravan by being rude to him actually hurt Sumo the most and hurting Sumo by what he is doing he is hurting himself more every minute.

About the bashing, I stay away from those threads mostly. Right now most of them are sympathetic towards Shravan and hence his opinion is theirs. But when his opinion starts changing so will theirs.

That said, how we express pain should not be the judge of in his much pain we are. I'll tell you a personal story, my grandma passed away 10 years back. A week before that when she was in the hospital I had a sprained leg and couldn't go visit her, I wasn't even able to walk properly and she was actually recovering. I was working and was in another city. The next week she wasn't there I was too late when I reached. Not a single day has gone by without me regretting what I did. But I don't cry, does it mean that I am heartless ?
Pain cannot and should not be measured by our expressions ever. Shravan loves Sumo for what she is, not what she will be and so does Sumo, that is the beauty of their love. If Shravan's actions are justified, Sumo's inaction is justified too.

"Sometimes we love with nothing but hope.
Sometimes we cry with everything except tears."

The first one is for Shravan and the second is for Sumo. All said 😊


Hey, I want to share a similar incident to yours but its too recent... My grandmom passed away this month, I couldn't meet her as I had an important exam which I couldn't afford to miss and I mainly din't expect that the worst would happen... I wept for almost this whole month (missing her) but not once did I regret my choice as whatever be the outcome I felt I'm solely responsible for it and I have accepted that life doesn't always run the way I want it to be...

I think even Sumo accepts the way life has always been... she tries to make her way but if it still doesn't run the way she wants it to be then she tries to cope up... life has taught her this process at a very young age when she lost her parents and I'm here to say that's the right way of living
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125

Chick, beautiful post ! I am and will always be a Sumo person and that is not to say she is right or Shravan is wrong. There is one mistake they both are doing which Adithya pointed out yesterday, they have to look from the other person's perspective. That and only that can help them. They both ask, why Sumo and why Shravan but they both don't introspect. One is feeling pain and the other is numb and they both haven't realized what they are doing when they are hurt. Whom are they hurting ? Hurting Shravan by being rude to him actually hurt Sumo the most and hurting Sumo by what he is doing he is hurting himself more every minute.

About the bashing, I stay away from those threads mostly. Right now most of them are sympathetic towards Shravan and hence his opinion is theirs. But when his opinion starts changing so will theirs.

That said, how we express pain should not be the judge of in his much pain we are. I'll tell you a personal story, my grandma passed away 10 years back. A week before that when she was in the hospital I had a sprained leg and couldn't go visit her, I wasn't even able to walk properly and she was actually recovering. I was working and was in another city. The next week she wasn't there I was too late when I reached. Not a single day has gone by without me regretting what I did. But I don't cry, does it mean that I am heartless ?
Pain cannot and should not be measured by our expressions ever. Shravan loves Sumo for what she is, not what she will be and so does Sumo, that is the beauty of their love. If Shravan's actions are justified, Sumo's inaction is justified too.

"Sometimes we love with nothing but hope.
Sometimes we cry with everything except tears."

The first one is for Shravan and the second is for Sumo. All said 😊


Amazing post Nith! Both are in pain and hopefully one of them would find the light and the other would follow.

Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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lovely wrote up chick
I waited for your post as your view about the episode and of course Sumo POV ..

Now I'm really looking forward to no how Shravan state of mind change about women an suman .. in this stage No for marriage from me or may be from sumo too..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--


Hey, I want to share a similar incident to yours but its too recent... My grandmom passed away this month, I couldn't meet her as I had an important exam which I couldn't afford to miss and I mainly din't expect that the worst would happen... I wept for almost this whole month (missing her) but not once did I regret my choice as whatever be the outcome I felt I'm solely responsible for it and I have accepted that life doesn't always run the way I want it to be...

I think even Sumo accepts the way life has always been... she tries to make her way but if it still doesn't run the way she wants it to be then she tries to cope up... life has taught her this process at a very young age when she lost her parents and I'm here to say that's the right way of living


My hugs to you 🤗 It is not easy to lose someone we love. It takes years to come to terms with it, I still have not been able to. Take time to grieve.

I think we would be willing to do anything when a loved one is on his/her deathbed. What if Sumo had not said yes and Naanu had died ? Will she be able to live with that ? What would everyone who says Sumo should talk to Naanu say then ? I don't know ! Sumo will be wrong anyway 😉

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: zindgidilse

Actually, the problem is not with cvs story (coz this is the story), shravan, or members here on forum and their pov regarding sumo..the problem is with the character named sumo..because the characterization of the sumo is not a easy task to understand..as i said earlier, i m only active on forum so i can say only about environment here..people on this forum can understand shravan's character 100% coz its not difficult to understand him or bringing out justification behind his every action coz we do understand him completely and i appreciate that coz i agree when people gives analysis and comments and justification(for his wrong action) BUT people on this forum fails/failed to understand sumo/suman to 100%or more than that...even the analysis post /comments/justification(for her wrong action) are not upto the mark or equal to 10% as it has to be coz these posts in favour of her also could not justify suman/sumo's character completely ...and i m glad everybody on this forum fails/failed to understand sumo/suman..coz this character is like two sides of coin..sometimes you will see one side of the coin and sometimes you will see another side of the same coin..but you will never be able to see both the sides of the coin together even if you try to see the other side of the coin with the help of the mirror...the only thing which will be in your hand is DEFEAT if you ever try to see both sides of the coin...

Long time girl ! Where have you been and how have you been ?
I agree with you but partially
We will not be able to understand Sumo, that is for sure, but I think it is intentional. I don't think it is because of the complexity of her characterisation though. I think it is because of the simplicity. They go so far as to give us monologues to tell us what is on her mind, to justify her, to make her even simpler but I think we cloud her character with our perceptions and our judgements. Shravan compared her with the other 3 women in his life, but we compare a lot more, mainly with ourselves, in fact with our perceptions of ourselves. All of us want to be Sumo and all of us want to be perfect.Its a mind game, they show us a simple character but her intentions and actions don't tally and we project ourselves and every other ideal person we know and she becomes too complex to decipher.
I don't know if I am making sense 😆

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