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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: spshastr


She did not as she believed he will come back to her.. Talking to him was like closing that door we all know that. But I guess it back fired. She did not break the relationship. She said she wont confess there is a difference


So... did she trust him enough? 😉

She ended up giving up on him. Cause in their case friendship and live cannot exist separately.
Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: poppinss

Res... lots to say. For Shravan... for a change 😃

Unres

Chick, beautiful post as usual. Thank you for making this one.

I am basically a hardcore Sumo girl. But... I feel the story at the moment, is skewed towards the FL and the ML is looking like the villain. I know the cvs WILL bring things around but... time for me to do some Sumo bashing for a change... Please bear with me 😉

Cause and effect and Snowball effect. These are the two things that come to my mind when I think of the current conundrum.

I would not discount Shravan's contribution of blunders in all this.. but Sumo has her equal share too. Her mistakes are not current, but that does not give her cover either.

Mistake 2:

The whole thing started with Sumo's promise to Ramu. She promised to not reveal her feelings to Shravan. The cvs slipped here and added 2 additional clauses

1. Shravan declares his love... Sumo would not stop and promise broken
2. Shravan is in danger she would not stop herself.

So... Sumo wouldn't want 2 to come true... so she guns for 1.

She promises Ramu for her sister and lets Shravan go. But, instead of sticking to the promise tried to steer Shravan towards goal no 1 😃. The stupid girl knew how possessive and jealous her man is about her... BUT did it stop her? She teases Shravan in front of Adi... Sumo was aware of Shravan's state of mind, his confusions but still pretends to lead on Adi. And Shravan reacted, and rest is history!

Mistake 1:

Sumo is someone who talks about honesty... so why was she not honest with Shravan about Ramu's offer. Irrespective of the consequence.

Is it fair for Preeti to get married to Pushkar inspite of his mother's non acceptance? (we live in India and we marry into the family mother is the family especially if the son has no say!!).

If the Tiwaris knew that Pushkar would never say yes... and when everyone in Tiwari killa had given up on the marriage what made Mahan Sumu to sacrifice her love? Beats me... Sumo.

Why does Sumo take decisions alone? Decisions that need to be taken in a consultative fashion with the family. Mind you, Preeti is not her daughter, not even her sister...(cousin). So why take responsibility, especially when this might not result in a happy situation. Kamini is dead against this match and that might spell doom to Pretti in the future. Why did he not reveal this to Nanu?

Having said that... in the current scenario Shravan has behaved despicably and is the bigger sinner of the two...

BUT... if we do a root cause analysis we know where it all started. THAT does not excuse Shravan of the mistakes he has committed till now or the ones he is going to commit in the near future.

But the end result is.. they are both hurting. And neither will find happiness without the other. Both have failed the other... as friend and lover.

What I would like to see is for Sumo to find a way to call off this marriage with Adi and focus on her work and family. Like any sane, independent girl would do.

And Shravan to find a way out of the grave that he has dug for himself.

Looking forward to what the CVs have in store for us...


Poppin,

😳

I will not say Sumo is the root cause here...It is Shravan's idea of women in general...He has only 4 categories of women...Which one do we all fall into?😲😆

I would excuse Suman's behaviour in being teh decision maker in Preeti's case...BECAUSE THAT IS THE ROLE THAT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO HER BY HER FAMILY. And she has faith in Pushkar...and fact is, Pushkar is a very good match for Preeti..way above what she can expect...and he is a gem of a guy...


And Preeti's mom herself was all elated when Ramu came with teh offer...not for once did the lady wonder what it was about..so much so for her RESPONSIBILITY as a mother!

And it was Nanu's decision to take the proposal forward...not entirely Suman's...

That way, even Shravan should stop the wedding, because he knows the whole family has bulldozed Chachi into accepting this.

I'll go back to what I said first- It is about his ATTITUDE towards women in general.

Once that changes, everything will follow.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: --Amulya--

I've already mentioned in this forum that I think I can connect with both the characters partly... I myself being a girl can connect with Suman and on having feelings one-sidedly for my BFF can connect with Shravan too...

Your post is brilliant... it said everything I wanted to say on behalf of a girl...

For FL, when our near and dear ones do something for us we respect them and let theM hold the privilege of caring for us but when the same people measure the things they've done for us it becomes impossible to handle as girls like Suman consider them as emotional bonding rather than materialistic ...emotional bonding can never be measured to give it back in the same proportions. She has suffered so much in life that she has given up on looking behind the interior motives of people and rather considers things on face-value.

For ML, this guy loves each person around him unconditionally... but by realising that he would never be able to get such an unconditional love received a big blow which was not from Suman but was from his life...

The only love which we could get unconditionally on this planet is of parents... which our both leads unfortunately lacked but even of those two Suman is the most ill-fated. If we're to introspect closely even in this love we can find conditioning but is pertained to a certain level. Our ML must certainly someday understand that there's no love that is purely unconditional as its not a give-take policy but has emotions involved in it. We do know that he's acted so in a drunken state and so I pity him. He can reform only when he stops calculating emotions and that they are to be felt without any reasonable logistics.

Our leads are for each other as only they can reform and treat each other of their insecurities and emotional baggages.


Well said.

But I believe unconditional love can come from a sibling or a friend or a partner too...or even a child...It all depends on the person.

And here, more than Suman,.. Shravan seems to be having a problem giving out unconditional love...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Beautifully said Soup!

I'm loving the writing. The show is about to begin!

I laughed at his advice to Sumo, to be like Vandi. If she turns out like her, he won't be loving her like this.

Shrav spoke abt 4 women and he seriously misunderstood the important two.

Damn! It's all about him! And I don't mind.Because it's gonna be about them.



🤗 Sim!

With U on this ..Its all about him...😳


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Posted: 9 years ago
#45
i give it to suman for choosing aditya over shravan - it was circumstantial and she honestly did not have a choice.
But how does one explain her complete lack of empathy about the nirmala - aditya connection and how gravely that will affect her already broken best friend? that to me is completely unjustificable - and she is not even a vile person like a tedha shravan - so? why does that thought not cross her mind - ever?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

Hey Chick (*awkward silence*) Lol..I assure u that I am not hitting on u ;)

Such a beautiful write-up..You have explained Sumo's state of mind all too well. Although Shravan's act yesterday was totally wrong, I do get his pov just Namik's acting was that convincing as well as some intelligent writing (w.r.t the 4 wpmen in his life). I am super annoyed by the repeated comments as to why Sumo isn't understanding him!! The main complain I have from cvs is that the story..or more aptly distribution of scenes is more tilted to Shravan's pov.. I want Sumo to question him mainly to put up a strong defence. Remember after the "revenge" party and the time when he used to avoid her and even during Nirmala fiasco, the way she questions him and puts forward her point...I am missing that now. I want her to speak up, argue..or even yell and kick him..anything to open the communication channel.
I do agree with what someone has written above..that she knows he is hurt but is too numb. Someone pour ice cold water on Sumo.Wake her up..Let her act even if it is to "chuck" Shravan :P


btw, what did Sumo mean by "hum saath nahi ho toh tum is taraf ghir jaao" ?


😆
Thank U.

I am not expecting Sumo to sit down and explain things to him after the level of accusation she has had to face. H is not a baby...let him use his brains...all this spooonfeeding by her is rotting his brains.😆 Lo! That is also Sumo's fault!😉

I didn't catch that particular dlg.

Must mean that she should not be the reason he should be a gentleman. That he should have an identity of his own.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: penganga

thank you so much for writing this!
the thing that he said abt wife-bedroom-demands..he is actually equating the wife to a prostitute... even prostitutes should not be dishonored this way!
totally disgusting...
and the way behaved with that girl in bedroom...that was also cheap...he thinks of himself as some super eligible bachelor and girls are dying to be with him...
and why is he blaming Suman for saying No to all those girls... she didnt even call you once while you were in London ...galati khud karo aur ilzaam dusaro par daalo...
i am glad that Suman didnt give him any bhav...

good that all the filth that was in his mind is finally out...tedha Shravan ka pata nahi...Saaf suthara Shravan to shayad ab bahar aayega...


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Yes. All the gandagi is out...finally...he just vomited it out...now is the time to get ready for some cleansing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: spshastr

Chick Numb is the word .. I was like something is not right with her shes like a walking corpse and there u sum it all up beautifully

Although I understand him and its easy right with so many conversations and reactions.,Shes always subtle and harder to understand


To be frank, just watching Suman I feel like screaming at Shravan...

Just let her go to sleep...She was up the whole night...Nanu was blackmailing her..You haven't been too kind on her either...She is the one who has been running around doing everything for the wedding..Its been at least 36 hours since he threw things around in PCT and she is feeling like a corpse...

Just let her rest before she faints with exhaustion...

I felt like hugging Adi yesterday for taking her home finally.😆

Would have hugged even Ramnath if he had been the one to take her home.😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: nith125

Long time girl ! Where have you been and how have you been ?
I agree with you but partially
We will not be able to understand Sumo, that is for sure, but I think it is intentional. I don't think it is because of the complexity of her characterisation though. I think it is because of the simplicity. They go so far as to give us monologues to tell us what is on her mind, to justify her, to make her even simpler but I think we cloud her character with our perceptions and our judgements. Shravan compared her with the other 3 women in his life, but we compare a lot more, mainly with ourselves, in fact with our perceptions of ourselves. All of us want to be Sumo and all of us want to be perfect.Its a mind game, they show us a simple character but her intentions and actions don't tally and we project ourselves and every other ideal person we know and she becomes too complex to decipher.
I don't know if I am making sense 😆

yes long time...nd honestly speaking i don't feel like coming here thats why i had left the forum but when my few friends told me to stay..i came back...
Thank you for partially agree with me 😆
as you said it can be intentional that people don't want to undersrand her character but as per me..it's not intentional..coz everytime people in this forum tries to understand her but every damn time they fails...this is the fact that people will always fails to understand her and her silence..but it's not the case with shravan...coz every member on this forum understands him, his silence, and his every reaction ...thats good thing about people here that atleast they have suceeded in understanding him completely...i don't write my perception regarding shravan that does not mean i m against him..no ..even i understand him like people here do..
But agree or not, none could understand sumo completely..coz to understand her, one needs to be sumo/suman...except that person none would be able to understand the characterization of suman/sumo.
Its not about monologue from her...but its about her silence in her every issue and circumstances and her silence speaks alot which everybody fails to decode...for example, we all understands shravan's silence BUT we don't able to understand her silence...thats the feature of her character...

I m not saying sumo is always right and shravan is always wrong or shravan is always right and sumo is always wrong...no absolutely not...infact i m not talking about who is right and who is wrong coz i said this earlier in one of the post and AT that --> "shravan and suman both are at fault, neither of them is completely right nor of them completely wrong...they both are rightly wrong"

and about comparing thing, its totally wrong..their is no need to comparison if we hv understood the character...

well honestly, none want to be sumo...and thats coz they fails to understand her..and if they really wants to be sumo...then its impossible coz sumo is sumo...no one can be like her or at her place..and about reality...only a person same as sumo can unferstand her or a person who has gone through the situation like her in reality...and here i m more than sure coz i hv seen a person same as sumo...

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Posted: 9 years ago
#50
You know i wanted to just hug that girl , maybe she could use a peg or two.
She lost her best friend, her nanu almost died, she accepted a loveless marriage, and got taunts and she is genuinely irked with Aditya ..
She has none who even care on how she is doing. I feel both of them need a mother.
who can love them unconditionally, hug them.
And to top it all she was walking around like a zinda laash 😭

And really why should she be the mother he does not have. I think shras parents must take care of him and make him ok first on that ground.. lets not put everything on Sumos shoulders. SHes not Mother India
Edited by spshastr - 9 years ago

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