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Posted: 13 years ago
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I am back...😆 🤗
OK... So before you all throw dandas and belans on me for scrapping an old topic 😭... ...
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Nevertheless You all will have to utilize those Grey memory cells... 😎 🤣...
So...
While watching the Mahashivratri maha episode, How many of you actually paid attention to Madhuri's "two cents" segment in the end of the episode...? 😛
I do not remember ditto words nor i have that video so will try my best:
" Shiv- Sati's love saga was eternal and it is still remembered in history... But it also leaves behind a lot of questions and mysteries to ponder upon!
How did the "Trikaal darshi" (the one who can see past-present-future) Mahadev not know that he would end up losing Sati if she went to the yagya? Why did he not do anything concrete to ensure her safety from Daksh then?"
I was literally into deep thinking mode after listening to this... 😳 ... because this is one question I have never known an answer to, from any books or my family...🤓
I am really hoping DKDM shows this as Shiv's monologue when the time arrives (😭)... about why he could not do anyhting for Sati?
From what perspective the show has characterised mahadev... He only cares about Sati when due to her the system is in problem... 😆
That day when Sati was in Yog nindra, he did not wish to help her--- in short not bothering to save her from death---ignored repeated pleas from his Bhakts, but when Daksh was trying to give up his powers ... he saved her to save Daksh's powers...😉
The point is I think they might show that Mahadev knew it would be the end of Sati when and where and how... 😭... But he did not interfere because the "trikaal darshi" might have also seen the destruction of Daksh, which could eventually prove a lesson to humankind to never get high with your ego, pride and jealousy...? 🤔
OR
He knew about whatever was to happen to Sati but he respected "Niyati" (destiny) which can not change for anyone ... ! 😕 ... even for Dev like him... unlike Daksh who always thinks of challenging it...🤢
So in short it was just the plain selfless nature of Mahadev to yet again let his Shakti go for the benefit of the universe??? 👏
You all have really read Mytho books and different Purans... What explanation do you all have for this??? 😳
PS: As i always do make it a little light... A shayari totally recomposed with my words... original hain... ... For my Pyaara Dakshu... .😈
Papa kehte the bada bura naam karega 😡...
Beta humara aisa PAAP karega...
Magar yeh toh ... Beta hi naa jaane... ki uski manzil hai kaha... 😈 🐷
Baithe hai jamaata (son in law)... sab yaar milke...
Sabke dilon mein bhadaas yeh hai...😡
Woh zindagi mein kal bakraa banega...🥳
har ik ke dil ka sapna yeh hai... 😍
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice post,and yeah I saw that Madhuri part too 😳
You have given very good reasoning's,amazing 👏

I was reading Ram Charit Manas,and in that they have given this as the reason:
Just before this whole yagya mishap,Sati and Shiva were once walking in the jungle when they saw Sriramji searching for Devi Sita.Mahadev told sati that Sriram has lost his wife,so he is so vichlit or restless for which Sati was shocked as to how can Sriramchandra who is an incarnation of Vishnu not know about his wife's whereabouts 😕...She did not believe Shiva,so Shiva told Sati to go and check it herself while he will wait for her to comeback.Sati changed her form to Devi Sita and went to meet Ramji...Ramchandra immediately recognized her and asked her "Where is Mahadev,devi sati?"Sati realised her mistake and came back...but did not tell about her deeds to Mahadev,Mahadev anyways, knew it that Sati changed herself to Devi Sita whom he revered as his mother,since then he changed his relationship with Sati.
Sati was very upset that she did not believe her husband and has let him down...Mahadev went to his deep penance state while devi Sati was left with a feeling of guilt,this is when yagya thing came up,again Sati wanted to go there inspite of Mahadev asking her not to do so She again disregarded her husband,but Mahadev knew that Sati is already disturbed mentally so this time he allowed her do what she wanted,even though momentary,still she will be happy to see her people/kith kin...Sati realised her mistake only after going to the yagya,she felt that she has let down her husband twice ,so she jumped into the fire.

Here's the text from Ram Charit Manas😊 Chapter 62 ,and 63
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53724241/22003811-Sri-Ram-Charit-Manas-Hindi-Text-Eng-Translation


Edited by nishkala - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very nice post yaar.👏.Absolutely even I was pondering about the same questions..and you have put across his being helpless & selfless is perfect..gosh I get so tensed about that tragedy even now yaar...aw..they are so perfect & madly in love with each other na😍.😭.destiny I tell you..😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What a lovelyy post ...after watching Mahaepisod n wht Madhuri said i was realyy into deep thinking but i just let it go ..i i wish der was some facts abt dis in puranas ...😕..or i wish Sati n Shiva's love story had happy endings...😆..😛...Awww i love dem sooo much..😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shiav himself knew that Sati didnt have a long life,also as he said-Viyog Punha hoga...,that Sati even after her marriage to Shiva still had her pride and ego in place,that was almost equal to that pf her father,she wasn't Dakshas daughter for nothing,Mahadev tried his best to convince her she didn't listen...so Mahadev let her go with a heavy heart...i guess this symbolizes that sometimes Destiny is greater than God himself,i hope they do give a justification for it
a very sad ending...but when Sati died she said that she wanted to be born to a father she was proud of,and through Satis death,Shakti dissociated her self from a bad arrogant father like Daksh and was born to a father who was a Shiva devotee and who in everyway respected her husband,Himavat...
so the Sati-Mahadev story did have a happy ending,maybe telling us that love goes beyond time,yugas
shruti
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Posted: 13 years ago
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This eaternal Q had things planned much before Sati's birth. As per Devi puran,much before Brhmaji begun creating the world, all the Shivji started penance to get Goddess Parashakti as his wife, seeing him Brhmaji & Vishnuji too started penance. When Godess Parashakti came to test all of them in her ferrocious form, Brhmaji got frightened, his 4 heads due to fear got placed in 4 directions. Vishnuji too got scared. Shivji knew he is being tested, remained unaffected. She was pleased with Shivji, agreed to be his wife. Later Brhmaji & Vishnuji too got Godess Saraswatiji & Laxmiji as their consort.

After Brhmaji started is creation, he told his son Daksh, since Godess Parashakti has promissed Shivji to be his wife, she will take birth somewhere, so you do penance & ask for a boon to be his daughter. Daksh did the same. When the Godess was pleased she told himsince she has already promised to be Shivji's wife, will be born as his daughter, but when his punyas will get over, he will disrespect her then she will go leave everything & go back to her Dham. So all the events were predestined. Shivji knew about this that's why he didn't want that seperation to happen once again, he has already parted with his Shakti from his Ardhnarishwar form.Once in the show when Sati confronted him about being his Ardhangini, he had tod hae that was many Kalpas back.
The one who tested Rama was Parvati not Sati. Vishnuji's Rama avatar was in the last quarter of Terta yuga, which came after Sata yuga. Shivji- Sati story is of Sata yuga.
Regarding Daksh, I wanted to replace his head with a Goat yesterday only😆
Edited by mnx12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12

The one who tested Rama was Parvati not Sati. Vishnuji's Rama avatar was in the last quarter of Terta yuga, which came after Sata yuga. Shivji- Sati story is of Sata yuga.


Great explanation. Never liked this story about Shiva losin interst to Sati cos Sita looks like his mother (what mother???) . He is either unborn, or is son of Brahma

Originally posted by: mnx12

Regarding Daksh, I wanted to replace his head with a Goat yesterday only😆

i had the same feelings
Edited by NST1983 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nishkala

Nice post,and yeah I saw that Madhuri part too 😳
You have given very good reasoning's,amazing 👏

I was reading Ram Charit Manas,and in that they have given this as the reason:
Just before this whole yagya mishap,Sati and Shiva were once walking in the jungle when they saw Sriramji searching for Devi Sita.Mahadev told sati that Sriram has lost his wife,so he is so vichlit or restless for which Sati was shocked as to how can Sriramchandra who is an incarnation of Vishnu not know about his wife's whereabouts 😕...She did not believe Shiva,so Shiva told Sati to go and check it herself while he will wait for her to comeback.Sati changed her form to Devi Sita and went to meet Ramji...Ramchandra immediately recognized her and asked her "Where is Mahadev,devi sati?"Sati realised her mistake and came back...but did not tell about her deeds to Mahadev,Mahadev anyways, knew it that Sati changed herself to Devi Sita whom he revered as his mother,since then he changed his relationship with Sati.
Sati was very upset that she did not believe her husband and has let him down...Mahadev went to his deep penance state while devi Sati was left with a feeling of guilt,this is when yagya thing came up,again Sati wanted to go there inspite of Mahadev asking her not to do so She again disregarded her husband,but Mahadev knew that Sati is already disturbed mentally so this time he allowed her do what she wanted,even though momentary,still she will be happy to see her people/kith kin...Sati realised her mistake only after going to the yagya,she felt that she has let down her husband twice ,so she jumped into the fire.

I think that Mahadev faced the same challenge that he is repeatedly mentioning now...Sati and her human form which had tinges of aham left in it...Didn't he ask Vishnuji and Brahma ,the consequences of him marrying a human being?I think he was talking about this consequence only...may be he himself was helpless😕

Here's the text from Ram Charit Manas😊 Chapter 62 ,and 63
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53724241/22003811-Sri-Ram-Charit-Manas-Hindi-Text-Eng-Translation



Ye puri story galat hai, Sati was not that time, It was Parvati, Parvati was also called Sati, beacuse of her previous birth.

Kartike and Ganesh are children of Shiv Parvati. Ganeshji was there at that time, Since its a story of one jyotirling that when ravan asked shiv to stay at his Lanka, Shiv give him the Ling and told him that , whenever you kept this , it would be stay only there.
All dev-gans gets frighten that if shiv goes there then nobody would able to win him, so they gone to Ganesh that this is the problem. So ganesh changed his roop and gone there, when ravan gives him the shivling and told him to wait 4 him, he kept there only.

So the whole story is just factuation, Ramji also greet Mahadev and Mahadev greet them. So nobody is big and small.

In Gita and all granthas, one this is mentioned, that the person who thinks that Brahma , vishnu and Shiv are different then he is the biggest fool, since all are one and only one, they are just different forms of God.

In the aarti of Shiv also who have heard - pranvaksher ke madey, ye tino hi eka.

Sorry if i hurt u.

Shreya
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: CraziestGurtian

I am back...😆 🤗

OK... So before you all throw dandas and belans on me for scrapping an old topic 😭... ...
.
.
.
.
.
.
Nevertheless You all will have to utilize those Grey memory cells... 😎 🤣...
So...
While watching the Mahashivratri maha episode, How many of you actually paid attention to Madhuri's "two cents" segment in the end of the episode...? 😛
I do not remember ditto words nor i have that video so will try my best:
" Shiv- Sati's love saga was eternal and it is still remembered in history... But it also leaves behind a lot of questions and mysteries to ponder upon!
How did the "Trikaal darshi" (the one who can see past-present-future) Mahadev not know that he would end up losing Sati if she went to the yagya? Why did he not do anything concrete to ensure her safety from Daksh then?"
I was literally into deep thinking mode after listening to this... 😳 ... because this is one question I have never known an answer to, from any books or my family...🤓
I am really hoping DKDM shows this as Shiv's monologue when the time arrives (😭)... about why he could not do anyhting for Sati?
From what perspective the show has characterised mahadev... He only cares about Sati when due to her the system is in problem... 😆
That day when Sati was in Yog nindra, he did not wish to help her--- in short not bothering to save her from death---ignored repeated pleas from his Bhakts, but when Daksh was trying to give up his powers ... he saved her to save Daksh's powers...😉
The point is I think they might show that Mahadev knew it would be the end of Sati when and where and how... 😭... But he did not interfere because the "trikaal darshi" might have also seen the destruction of Daksh, which could eventually prove a lesson to humankind to never get high with your ego, pride and jealousy...? 🤔
OR
He knew about whatever was to happen to Sati but he respected "Niyati" (destiny) which can not change for anyone ... ! 😕 ... even for Dev like him... unlike Daksh who always thinks of challenging it...🤢
So in short it was just the plain selfless nature of Mahadev to yet again let his Shakti go for the benefit of the universe??? 👏
You all have really read Mytho books and different Purans... What explanation do you all have for this??? 😳
PS: As i always do make it a little light... A shayari totally recomposed with my words... original hain... ... For my Pyaara Dakshu... .😈
Papa kehte the bada bura naam karega 😡...
Beta humara aisa PAAP karega...
Magar yeh toh ... Beta hi naa jaane... ki uski manzil hai kaha... 😈 🐷
Baithe hai jamaata (son in law)... sab yaar milke...
Sabke dilon mein bhadaas yeh hai...😡
Woh zindagi mein kal bakraa banega...🥳
har ik ke dil ka sapna yeh hai... 😍
🤣 🤣 🤣


I want to tell that Shivji knows what will happen to Sati, in order to not hurt Sati as she wil be buried in the yagya, he wants to stay away as he also knew that Prajapati would never accept them. He knows that he will lose her again, thats why he said, viyog ki ghatna ab dubara nahi hogi.

When Sati had gone, Shivji got very much hurt, he was travelling all around taking her body.
that's why Vishnuji tell Sudarshan that to cut the body into pieces, and not to break shivji's dhyaan so that Shivji gets calm. When Shivji gets calm, he goes to kailash and went to his tap. and he wakes up only after Parvati had comed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Sweet24
Where is the question of me feeling hurt 😕This story was not at all made by me,I just shared what I read.And in the very begining of the show it was shown that Vishnu's idol is incomplete without Shiva linga ,which simply means the amount of respect that Shiva and Vishnu give to each other.Where is the question of one being smaller than other?😕See, mythology should always be accepted with open mind because it has so many beautiful meanings hidden in it,seeing it with a very narrow angle never helps!Sorry if I hurt you.

@NST1983...I completely second what Meenaxi has told ,even I was reading the whole thing again and again because it was Ram Charit manas and had the same doubt but then mytho's are sometimes so confusing...
But then you should understand one thing that Sita was Devi Lakshmi and Shiv and Vishnu always respected each other tremendously...in that case Devi Lakshmi had a very respectable place in Shiva's mind,the statement certainly does not mean real mother.


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