Is hinduism on the path of extinction - Page 13

Originally posted by: chatbuster

combustion and gases. sure. that's the stuff that made things run in the primitive world. 😉but the modern world has gone more nuclear. it's more than just the gases that knock you out. 😉cant believe we are still there.😆 So have you made a point ? or just made a news telecast...😆

now do you know what consciousness is? even if it's some kind of abstract mind, havent we ever heard of mind-over-matter effects? or vice versa? that's baloney? well, how about when we find our spirits lifted by certain music, and depressed by others? and what is that music we hear? at some elementary level, everything is wave particles, strings and the rest of that, not too different from the particles that comprise us. 😊 everything has a scientific explanation. do you even know what you are driving at... mind over matter is covered in psychiatry... now google for peripheral nervous system and make your arguments more knowledgeable....😊...Effects of music... causes for depression can all be induced in the lab....mood elevating drugs are available heard of ecstasy.!!!!! Dont yo-yo on knowledge if you dont know the cause of some of these common dont you them in your ha ha rebuttals atleast...😊

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Food for Thought:


Can there be any doubt that, during the last twenty five centuries, Buddha, Christ or Mohammed have been the most honoured, idolised, adored, discussed and talked about figures in history? The erudite who made them the objects of their studies, laudatory or critical, are nowhere seen in the resplendence which surrounds them.

Even the greatest among secular geniuses emit only a feeble glow in comparison, and their works make a poor show beside the popularity of the Bible, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita or the Discourses of Buddha. Why do the personalities and the utterances of the enlightened command such lasting devotion from the human heart? There must be a reason for it.

The argument that this idolisation and homage do not emanate from the disciplined mind of scholars but from the superstitious fears of the commoners does not change the position...since the scholars themselves depend for their own authority on the same spontaneous approval and instinctive recognition of their worth by the crowd.

Wonder of the Brain; G.Krishna. Publ: FIND Research Trust 1972

Right this is a game of numbers.. now you should think why missionary conversions are there.. When the religion is first created.. or you have followers, how many numbers you start off with matters the most.. remember not many christain would have read the bible just as many hindus would have read our scriptures faster than they turn pages of a news papper.... Thats the reason sikhism is not as popular as christainity and islam.. not because Guru Nanak taught something less than jesus.. but simply because the number of followers outnumbered it.....😆 Trust all religions teach and mean well. but its "my religion" that defines a power struggle...for superiority...😊

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Right this is a game of numbers.. now you should think why missionary conversions are there.. When the religion is first created.. or you have followers, how many numbers you start off with matters the most.. remember not many christain would have read the bible just as many hindus would have read our scriptures faster than they turn pages of a news papper.... Thats the reason sikhism is not as popular as christainity and islam.. not because Guru Nanak taught something less than jesus.. but simply because the number of followers outnumbered it.....😆 Trust all religions teach and mean well. but its "my religion" that defines a power struggle...for superiority...😊

actually, the point I wanted to make is highlighted in red. I don't agree with the perception that people believe in god because they are scared of his fury or scared of his power. I think human brain is wired in such a way that there is a belief in a superpower with in all of us. Otherwise, how can we explain the similar concept of religion in all races???

The pink highlighted points in your post brings us back to the debate topic. Do you think hinduism will become extinct eventually in the wake of more and more conversions and evils with in hinduism????

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

haha, what are you arguing about now? are you saying that if you drop 90% last year on your investments that you would be up money even if you made 100% this year? let's first have a bit more of those black-hole financial theories before i burst that bubble too.😉

you talked about cause and effect being important only when the cause has proximity. told u how wrong that thinking was. whether it's the the alcoholic or the fat guy, they dont get like that overnight. there's a history of drinking, of pigging out. that's cumulative path dependence, not the last thing they did. and i even got you wrong on that last penny old-wives tale. so what are you coming up with now? more old-wives?😆

just tell me at what level you want the arguments to be. u surely seemed to have missed out on finance, surprising given that u yourself brought that one up. would be hapy to oblige eiter way.😉

Originally posted by: chatbuster

haha, what are you arguing about now? are you saying that if you drop 90% last year on your investments that you would be up money even if you made 100% this year? let's first have a bit more of those black-hole financial theories before i burst that bubble too.😉. If I invest $10 in poweball do you deny the possibility of someone being a multi-millionaire...?... wher e does that come from.. respond to points rather than hallucinating...about the correctness of your answers...😊

you talked about cause and effect being important only when the cause has proximity. told u how wrong that thinking was.you said it and you think that was good enough... 😆 whether it's the the alcoholic or the fat guy, they dont get like that overnight. there's a history of drinking, of pigging out. that's cumulative path dependence, not the last thing they did. and i even got you wrong on that last penny old-wives tale. so what are you coming up with now? more old-wives?😆

just tell me at what level you want the arguments to be. u surely seemed to have missed out on finance, surprising given that u yourself brought that one up. would be hapy to oblige eiter way.😉...Dont have to know more befire you can oblige.. you dont know the cause of alcoholism... and deduce its 10 years of drinking.. how many drunks you know you arent alcoholics.. there are lot...😆. you need to get some more info before you drive any point...

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

lol. you seem to keep bringing up google when all else fails. something there that we should know about? i mean i'd be happy to start googling if that's the trick that works for you.😉

as for ecstasy, why are you throwing random examples out of context? i mean there might be an audience that those might impress, but not this one. in any case, how's a drug pertinent to what we are talking about? the point about music is that it's energy waves. we dont "observe" those waves with our naked eyes, yet we can establish that it affects our spirits. can we just have a yes, no for an answer here? do u need to run everything in some lab to get to any level of understanding? mind over matter is psychiatry? even if that were the case, so what? that makes it less valid? and are you really arguing with the point about music? dont know exactly where u are bursting your vessels, so perhaps let's just start with a yes/ no diagnosis, shall we? 😆

Originally posted by: chatbuster

qwerts, could you at least try and clearly delineate your responses from mine? i mean i dont think i'd like someone to confuse the two 😆

meanwhile, could you explain the part that you had in bold below. not sure i got the english right, and i dont want to miss out on something "profound" you might have had there:

haha, what are you arguing about now? are you saying that if you drop 90% last year on your investments that you would be up money even if you made 100% this year? let's first have a bit more of those black-hole financial theories before i burst that bubble too.. If I invest $10 in powerball do you deny the possibility of I becoming a multi-millionaire...and not going broke on my last 10 years of bad investments...?...

Originally posted by: chatbuster

lol. you seem to keep bringing up google when all else fails. something there that we should know about? i mean i'd be happy to start googling if that's the trick that works for you.😉

as for ecstasy, why are you throwing random examples out of context? i mean there might be an audience that those might impress, but not this one. in any case, how's a drug pertinent to what we are talking about? the point about music is that it's energy waves. we dont "observe" those waves with our naked eyes, yet we can establish that it affects our spirits. can we just have a yes, no for an answer here? do u need to run everything in some lab to get to any level of understanding? mind over matter is psychiatry? even if that were the case, so what? that makes it less valid? and are you really arguing with the point about music? dont know exactly where u are bursting your vessels, so perhaps let's just start with a yes/ no diagnosis, shall we? 😆

Man you are the one talking about depression and elation through music.. I am telling you theres a whole neurological reason behind it.. I kind dont take baby steps in explaining... so it might be difficult for you .. but just ask me to elaborate.whenever you get stuck....😊.. As for googling.. I google only for historical information.. and if u dont google thats great.. but sometimes it may help you understand some things u may not know...like the music and babies born with deformities and alcoholism and so on....😊

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Man you are the one talking about depression and elation through music.. I am telling you theres a whole neurological reason behind it.. I kind dont take baby steps in explaining... so it might be difficult for you .. but just ask me to elaborate.whenever you get stuck....😊.. As for googling.. I google only for historical information.. and if u dont google thats great.. but sometimes it may help you understand some things u may not know...like the music and babies born with deformities and alcoholism and so on....😊

here we go again.😛 mind is within our bodies, while the physical source of music can be far. music can affect us (and we have you implicitly providing the neurological reason for it), but mind cannot? you just argue on, dont u?😆

as for what u do with googling, it's your trick. u brought it up, dont have to justify it with me.😉

as for the steps u take, i see. sort of impressionist, right? throw a phrase here, a random phrase there, and hope the audience gets the full picture, right? 😛should try using logic actually if u do want to take those first baby steps😆