System ,faith and conscience .

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Posted: 9 years ago
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My only complaint is how can such a sheer brute cut- out- of life based story be finitely portrayed when in real life a Sarabjit's sister has given it all in her fight for years , When 30 years on ,A UP cop who was fake encountered got justice thanks to his now dead wife and two daughters endless struggle . When even today Isharat jahan is there on my newspaper's front page ; when a Soni sori depsite being victim of system's follies and torture IS STILL BEING attacked with acid and her alleged perpetrator get Prez medal ( Just like our Dear Yash ,the great is being honoured !! )when such sisters ,wives,daughters keep screaming in agony for their loss . and many more .


Swadheenta is a young 23 years old college pass out budding lawyer . Budding .Who has taken on the system now . Gradually decoding the games of people like his Bald crook so called senior bureaucrat unfortunately father -in law and so called gone -crazy -in grief-which -now- vanished in air , bro in law . I believe she will win it all but how and when is we all dont know ,as realistically it portrays .

Show would end but would the slow hare-brained system's own corruption routing officer husband would be able to forgive his own conscience (I know he has ! ) ,his soul ? LEAVE the LOVE he so cheesily pursued . His own trust on goodness was so so weak ,that it got sweeped away by one personal tragedy .Here is the real test ! Your wife did pass it, Sir !! You have gone all blind .all absent minded . forgot to connect the dots , a stammer turned into fluent speech etc etc .

Lets take an example .You got a link that so and so is embroiled in a scandal ( You have your own role model ,sorry to say ) .and you believe that person is wrong . But you let your judgements ,preconcieved notions dictate your actions ,then How the hell you would be serving your people by getting such criminals into fence .? Wont you pursue it or leave it to what's being served to you on platter by the Media ?

Your wife is doing the same . She has faith on herself .On her upbringing.Exavtly like you . How insensitive and disrespectful is that to not consider this .All hollow words of yours to bow down before her love towards truth . An unforgivable blunder on your part . TRUST AND RESPECT COMES BEFORE LOVE . OR RATHER ALL ALONG WITH IT .

Jaidev and Manohar are devoid -of -conscience . Period .Still that somewhat calm and loving wife of his can knock some into his soul . Manohar is a perfect example of many such real life cases .So nothing unusual .

Yes ,I knew they are hypocrites but THOSE WHO WERE CRYING FOUL ,WERE DROWNED IN TEARS FOR THEIR OWN BLOOD ARE NOW OFF TO SAVE THEIR CHAIR,SYSTEM .

THAT IS BEYOND MY ANTICIPATION . HIDING and letting go his child's murderer !! But yes ,how can he wash it all what dirty deeds he had been into along with his good for nothing Eldest Son .

Thats why UPSC has started an ETHICS based paper . 😊

I always believed in that one needs to be a part of system to understand power games fully and then fight to it .That is difficult thatswhy these two shameless people have taken easy path FORGETTING THEIR CHOTU . THIS IS THE UGLY TRUTH OF SYSTEM ,SOCIETY AND POWER CORRIDORS .


But system ,I believe is whats constituted by the units .those like all citizens by their participation ,those like bureucrats and those voted to legislative spaces. Media is a part of that civil society participation . Yes ,these days its been eroded to the core .BUT like in precap - I hope that very own institution plays its role of Fourth Pillar .

# Tonight I LOVED AND TOUCHED by Suhasinis care towards her .Even that husband of hers ,both were civil . Trying to sit by her side .TALKING TO HER . She is all self sufficent in her guts and capabilities however inexperienced she is .Dear Mother in law and dear Husband ,She needs atleast more than the cold shoulder you are giving to her until now .

WOULD YOU BE DOING SAME WITH YOUR BELOVED HUSBAND/DAD ,SON/BRO ? IF NOT ,
I would lose my faith on the traces of inherent certain level of goodness in you two ppl .

# Mami was todays star . HOW PRISTINE that Father figure he is when he is asking to leave that case . Fathers are like that .They know how that girl is all alone and left out . Mami again moved me when she asked her to fight only when SHE has that vishwaas .

An iota of disbelief would be fatal for her Father Mamu but let her all hard work till now into vain .

Faith is all we need . Faith is all the girl needs .

But for a change ,dont blame on system .FOR system's units need to come forward and let themselves suspended for what they have done . System has many more like ABHAY AND REAL ASHOK KHEMKA SIR ,Durgashakti Nagpal madam . Do we credit them ? Choices are ours .those units have to choose between their conscience and ugly creeks .

Power is actually like Chakravyuha as Shruthi said . But as all ,We all desperately hope for truth to triumph not martyr like Abhimanyu .For innocence to come out all clean , this SWADHEENTA girl
has to fight it out . For us ,for all and for history to be written .

# We all ought to learn and implement it in our own little ways .

In Faiz sahab's words :Bol ke lab azad hain tere ,bol zuban ab tak teri hai . Speak up . Take a stand . Dont go mute like Adarsh . Dont turn your face when the truth is muddy . If cant speak up,atleast dont be a hurdle in those who are fighting it out . Use all the intellect or tacts you have to be a good part in the process of making this place a better place .

Inequities would be there .But lets not forget to contribute in our own way besides discussing it here on forums .

## Btw that I know ,all those who are restless,frustrated ,angry and sad souls here have their reasonability ,sensibility and conscience at a better place thats why I so fail in resisting to come here despite paucity of time !! 😛😛.

Thank you all . for such thought and conscience stirring discussions . 👏👏

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Posted: 9 years ago
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If you think about it, Adarsh and Swadheenta are the same. Both of them trust and love their families more than anything. Family is very important to the both of them. It just so happens that in this situation one is right and the other is wrong.

I do not blame Adarsh and Suhasini for their present reactions and stance. I love these characters to bits, but just like Swadheenta my faith in them is not on emotional grounds but on logical and practical grounds. Let me just ask one question here. Tomorrow, when proof is out that the system tried to cover up the error and that Manohar and Jai were involved, would we be happy if Swadheenta forgave them and stood by their side and supported them, afterall they will still be her family. Is that not what she should do? But that is not acceptable, is it?

Think about this from Adarsh's perspective. Today, every proof is against the Jilani's. If he is expected to question the authenticity of these reports against the Jilani's, what stops him from questioning the authenticity of the reports against his father and brother? He truly loves his family and may stand by their side tomorrow. So, will we expect Swadheenta to do that too? No, we wont. So why expect Adarsh to support Swadheenta's family when every proof is against them? Isn't Adarsh doing the same thing today? Swadheenta knows her family and hence has reason to support them. Adarsh doesn't. Tomorrow, when Adarsh's family is found to be wrong, Swadheenta won't support them either. If Adarsh is wrong today, tomorrow Swadheenta will be wrong. Because both of them are or will act based on evidence.

The only fault of fate is that Adarsh has been born to a father who is corrupt and a brother who has followed his father's way. The minute this illusion breaks, he will be more devastated than he was on the day he lost his brother. My heart truly goes out to Adarsh and Suhasini. As much as Swadheenta doesn't deserve what she is going through now, Adarsh and Suhasini also don't deserve what they will be forced to face in the near future.

Our anger and frustration towards Adarsh is because we have been shown the entire truth. Would we be as upset with him had we not been shown the true happenings of that night? Had we not known that Asad actually had nothing to do with any of this? Had we seen him at the blast site on his own and not with Abhay? I don't think so. The reason we are harsh on Adarsh today is because we know the truth. But we have to credit him with that lapse, because he is not privy to this information.

Jai and Manohar are as immoral as they come. How they can sleep at night or break bread in front of Swadheenta after knowing the entire truth, I don't know. They are a breed of people that I am yet to understand, and I will be glad if I never understand them too. Yash, it is insulting to see him represent our Army. It is true that at the end of the day, even people in the army are human. But the irrevocable mistakes that this man has committed and is committing are unmatched.

I am ashamed of Yash, I am hurt by Jai and I am nauseated by Manohar.

The examples of real life stories that you have put 👏. Truth is so hard to find. It is so hard to support. But those who have the will, courage and determination to do it are made of a different mould. Swadheenta is one such example. And when the truth gets revealed, we will have to see if Adarsh and Suhasini are made of the good mould's or the bad rotten ones's. For the sake of my sanity, I hope it is the former.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wonderful post! Echos all the emotions us viewers are going through at the moment.
This:
Yes ,I knew they are hypocrites but THOSE WHO WERE CRYING FOUL ,WERE DROWNED IN TEARS FOR THEIR OWN BLOOD ARE NOW OFF TO SAVE THEIR CHAIR,SYSTEM .

WOULD YOU BE DOING SAME WITH YOUR BELOVED HUSBAND/DAD ,SON/BRO ? IF NOT ,
I would lose my faith on the traces of inherent certain level of goodness in you two ppl .

I want answers to this too!

You rightly said: in Real life .. justice, system, timeframe consume lifetimes of fight of relatives of victims! And still there is no guaranteee Justice gets delivered!

System only supports corrupt! Ones who do not blink a eye masaccaring their own, to allow smooth power runs! Manohar & Jai are part of that rotten 'elite' gang! Abhay's sacrifice is not enough for them, They are now butchering Adarsh & Swadheenta's life as well! They are ruining all relationships in family by letting this lie be!

System loves these corrupt manipulating 'workers'! They will get rewarded for this! red hot money- making them stinking rich!
Many honest officers lost lives.. are lost in history! Npoone even knows about them! their families are helples- because all files containing truth go missing!
Ishrat files are known case now-- there are many many more- who people don't even know about!

Would like to share one such case here: lost in history- lost in files- with no justice/ credit/ anything ever happening to it! Of someone I know!

A businessman- working for government secret agency: RA-. Had been to neighboring country on missions, with full identity to other required documents provided by system!
Used to write column in leading Mumbai based daily as well!
His last assignment - he stumbled upon an proofs of then upa government's headhoncho lady's believed to be 'right hand/ BF' man- AP's link to hawala chanel to terror groups!
He was in Bombay then! While traveling back fro Bombay to Gujarat- On top seat of train's 1st tier coach- 'he died by heart attack'.
His body then travelled in that train's other coach, when those other coaches were joined with another train to another remote town in Maharashtra! His luggage was found in third remote city of Gujarat! His office was ransacked 'searched' thoroughly .His family finally got a call from remote town of Maharashtra about 'body' - 2 days after his actual demise! A very minimal inquiry was done. Small town police clearly told family- to stay away from this. for sake of his children!
File was closed right after. His journo friends tried to make noise- were silenced. 2 of them are very well known & on high position in publication houses these days!
His writings, his all complete history is missing from online & print! well erased- every trace!
Family moved out of country ,after his daughters were harrased.
A true Story, of someone very dear! WIll always stay with me without any closure! ever!

System in India is brutally corrupt! and there are many unsung Heros! A sad reality!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun

If you think about it, Adarsh and Swadheenta are the same. Both of them trust and love their families more than anything. Family is very important to the both of them. It just so happens that in this situation one is right and the other is wrong.

I do not blame Adarsh and Suhasini for their present reactions and stance. I love these characters to bits, but just like Swadheenta my faith in them is not on emotional grounds but on logical and practical grounds. Let me just ask one question here. Tomorrow, when proof is out that the system tried to cover up the error and that Manohar and Jai were involved, would we be happy if Swadheenta forgave them and stood by their side and supported them, afterall they will still be her family. Is that not what she should do? But that is not acceptable, is it?

Think about this from Adarsh's perspective. Today, every proof is against the Jilani's. If he is expected to question the authenticity of these reports against the Jilani's, what stops him from questioning the authenticity of the reports against his father and brother? He truly loves his family and may stand by their side tomorrow. So, will we expect Swadheenta to do that too? No, we wont. So why expect Adarsh to support Swadheenta's family when every proof is against them? Isn't Adarsh doing the same thing today? Swadheenta knows her family and hence has reason to support them. Adarsh doesn't. Tomorrow, when Adarsh's family is found to be wrong, Swadheenta won't support them either. Is Adarsh is wrong today, tomorrow Swadheenta will be wrong. Because both of them are or will act based on evidence.

The only fault of fate is that Adarsh has been born to a father who is corrupt and a brother who has followed his father's way. The minute this illusion breaks, he will be more devastated than he was on the day he lost his brother. Mt heart truly goes out to Adarsh and Suhasini. As much as Swadheenta doesn't deserve what she is going through now, Adarsh and Suhasini also don't deserve what they will be forced to face in the near future.

Jai and Manohar are as immoral as they come. How they can sleep at night or break bread in front of Swadheenta after knowing the entire truth, I don't know. They are a breed of people that I am yet to understand, and I will be glad if I never understand them too. Yash, it is insulting to see him represent our Army. It is true that at the end of the day, even people in the army are human. But the irrevocable mistakes that this man has committed and is committing are unmatched.

I am ashamed of Yash, I am hurt by Jai and I am nauseated by Manohar.

The examples of real life stories that you have put 👏. Truth is so hard to find. It is so hard to support. But those who have the will, courage and determination to do it are made of a different mould. Swadheenta is one such example. And when the truth gets revealed, we will have to see if Adarsh and Suhasini are made of the good mould's or the bad rotten ones's. For the sake of my sanity, I hope it is the former.


Yes, they both are similar ,swa has said the same .Thats why itni ummeedein thin usse .Abhi bhi hain . :P . Actually this is what principle is . Bound by those ppls , one has to be nishkaam and pursue their goal .

Well, there are many more we all know ,but these are the times where ppl are put in jail for voicing concern over something .Censosrhip times . But they also give us the ultimate bleak tinge of hope . Again ARMY is the part of system .They can be good or bad . But what takes it to acknowledge the crime ?

In my Mom's words ,Jigar chahiye ,jigar . !! 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The moral compass for all humans are more or less the same. You are mostly answerable only to yourself. The choices that you make when you have the entire truth of the situation in front of you defines you.

Today Jai has the truth in front of him, Yash does, Manohar does, CM does. But they are choosing to snub it. That shows not just to us but even them that they are wrong. How long you can live with this guilt and burden of this mistake, time will tell. But you can never be the same carefree person. Such immoral actions change you, they make you different.

Karma is true. we all pay for the mistakes that we make. There will be a way for all perpetrators to pay their dues. They will pay it too. Let us wait and see how the culprits in Dahleez will be made to pay their dues.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: spdp

Wonderful post! Echos all the emotions us viewers are going through at the moment.
This:
Yes ,I knew they are hypocrites but THOSE WHO WERE CRYING FOUL ,WERE DROWNED IN TEARS FOR THEIR OWN BLOOD ARE NOW OFF TO SAVE THEIR CHAIR,SYSTEM .

WOULD YOU BE DOING SAME WITH YOUR BELOVED HUSBAND/DAD ,SON/BRO ? IF NOT ,
I would lose my faith on the traces of inherent certain level of goodness in you two ppl .

I want answers to this too!

You rightly said: in Real life .. justice, system, timeframe consume lifetimes of fight of relatives of victims! And still there is no guaranteee Justice gets delivered!

System only supports corrupt! Ones who do not blink a eye masaccaring their own, to allow smooth power runs! Manohar & Jai are part of that rotten 'elite' gang! Abhay's sacrifice is not enough for them, They are now butchering Adarsh & Swadheenta's life as well! They are ruining all relationships in family by letting this lie be!

System loves these corrupt manipulating 'workers'! They will get rewarded for this! red hot money- making them stinking rich!
Many honest officers lost lives.. are lost in history! Npoone even knows about them! their families are helples- because all files containing truth go missing!
Ishrat files are known case now-- there are many many more- who people don't even know about!

Would like to share one such case here: lost in history- lost in files- with no justice/ credit/ anything ever happening to it! Of someone I know!

A businessman- working for government secret agency: RA-. Had been to neighboring country on missions, with full identity to other required documents provided by system!
Used to write column in leading Mumbai based daily as well!
His last assignment - he stumbled upon an proofs of then upa government's headhoncho lady's believed to be 'right hand/ BF' man- AP's link to hawala chanel to terror groups!
He was in Bombay then! While traveling back fro Bombay to Gujarat- On top seat of train's 1st tier coach- 'he died by heart attack'.
His body then travelled in that train's other coach, when those other coaches were joined with another train to another remote town in Maharashtra! His luggage was found in third remote city of Gujarat! His office was ransacked 'searched' thoroughly .His family finally got a call from remote town of Maharashtra about 'body' - 2 days after his actual demise! A very minimal inquiry was done. Small town police clearly told family- to stay away from this. for sake of his children!
File was closed right after. His journo friends tried to make noise- were silenced. 2 of them are very well known & on high position in publication houses these days!
His writings, his all complete history is missing from online & print! well erased- every trace!
Family moved out of country ,after his daughters were harrased.
A true Story, of someone very dear! WIll always stay with me without any closure! ever!

System in India is brutally corrupt! and there are many unsung Heros! A sad reality!





This is just horrible , very sad and unjust . Sorry you have been witness to this so close . Sometimes I think , Is it wrong to shout it out for such things . Is it better to keep silent .?😭😭

I know ,we cant even fathom the pain and loss they has suffred despite trying to reach to the truth .

What fault of his family was there ? 😡

This reminds me of recently ongoing witchhunt of journos in a state ! . God save me .Either make me blind or deaf to witness it all or give me strength for fighting this helplessness when hear such cases on a daily basis .
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun

The moral compass for all humans are more or less the same. You are mostly answerable only to yourself. The choices that you make when you have the entire truth of the situation in front of you defines you.



I am putting it up on my wall .Thank you for giving this honest direct guidance in its form . ❤️👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun

The moral compass for all humans are more or less the same. You are mostly answerable only to yourself. The choices that you make when you have the entire truth of the situation in front of you defines you.

We all have a moral compass ...do we use it? How often and for what purpose too defines who we are...some choose to be led and not use the compass at all...thats why they lose direction as your most hated man...lets see for what purpose the black thread it ties...is it to remind Jai he has a compass...😉

Today Jai has the truth in front of him, Yash does, Manohar does, CM does. But they are choosing to snub it. That shows not just to us but even them that they are wrong. How long you can live with this guilt and burden of this mistake, time will tell. But you can never be the same carefree person. Such immoral actions change you, they make you different.

The way they thought they'd go scot free...the Ras leela will not happen now as Adarsh has got wind and is questioning at the wilful suppression of facts, He doubted Yash...now he feels he has played into their hands when they have not divulged the entire truth to him...it is the wake up call we are to see.

Karma is true. we all pay for the mistakes that we make. There will be a way for all perpetrators to pay their dues. They will pay it too. Let us wait and see how the culprits in Dahleez will be made to pay their dues.


The Payback time has begun...Padmasri's role...Adarsh's questioning...Swa will have Yash stripped of his decoration
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soapoperasrfun




The only fault of fate is that Adarsh has been born to a father who is corrupt and a brother who has followed his father's way. The minute this illusion breaks, he will be more devastated than he was on the day he lost his brother. My heart truly goes out to Adarsh and Suhasini. As much as Swadheenta doesn't deserve what she is going through now, Adarsh and Suhasini also don't deserve what they will be forced to face in the near future.

Our anger and frustration towards Adarsh is because we have been shown the entire truth. Would we be as upset with him had we not been shown the true happenings of that night? Had we not known that Asad actually had nothing to do with any of this? Had we seen him at the blast site on his own and not with Abhay? I don't think so. The reason we are harsh on Adarsh today is because we know the truth. But we have to credit him with that lapse, because he is not privy to this information.



Tonight 's scene Paddy's info with Swa and the blindfold on Adarsh made me sigh and here you said this yesterday so aptly . 😊Now I really feel sad for him . How pathetic its for father to let his newly wedded son's life crumble into pieces but yes ,this is abt power again ! .

😭 Kya beetegi us par .Aur yes today again Suha reaffirmed my faith in her with her smartness ,investigative stares and questioning . Tommorow would be a watershed moment which we knew was coming . Jai is coming around ,I am sure .Jaya is there .Now I can sleep peacefully .
😊

Swa wont need to leave this house , though many here want so but its not really needed to be sacrificed (The love of her life who would now be shattered and would need her !)
Except Manohar and jai ,I am sure once proven , so called calm peaceful lives would be no more the same .

You are right . Now I see Karma biting back . 👏👏

# Precap though was predicted already . How the hell Suha can even take a money launderer criminal's name so casually ,Madam ,even here you not only helped him(Your dear Husband ) in this matter but now are protecting (If not Abhay , what more it takes to get that you also are partner in crime ! )😡😡

( Today in Siya ke Ram Sita told mandodari to leave/Punish the husband if he's adharmi rather than protecting him ! It just came in flashes while watching Dahleez's precap ! )
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