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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: psarada

Sama,

Agree with you. It is very easy to praise everything and see the show through the tinted eye glasses wherein your favorite is doing a good job. However it is an entirely different ball game to discuss and accept the faults in the show. For all the numerous posts I have seen here since yesterday when the rumors started that CC is under scanner, all I have seen is the blame game - Push blame onto Barun fans, SaRun fans or Barun himself when Barun is no where in the picture. When you give feedback it is immediately deduced whether you are a barun fan or a Sarun fan or a Sanaya fan. Don't you think Barun is becoming a easy target for everything that is wrong is Chanchan. FK when he was not able to act passed the blame on IPK fans and washed off his hands off this project without taking any responsibility for the show not clicking. Then didn't everyone raise a hue and cry saying he is not even a decent human being. Then what are the fans doing from yesterday - they are also passing the blame of the show failure on Barun and who knows maybe the PH will also pass the blame of show failure on Barun and IPK jodi. Then will any of them be better than FK - no they are not. Accepting what doesn't work out and working on it will only get you some progress.

And for people saying that this show is very realistic, for a person who has seen the same PH's earlier show Saas Bina Sasural, the character of Toasty with its faults and strong points was a much better sketched character and just because you haven't seen other shows don't jump and say that what Sanaya is doing is the best character. Saas Bina Sasural had much better storyline that CC had in these 4 months and this show was produced by the same PH. So instead of just praising that things are working and pushing off the faults under the rug, please do tell your honest feedback to the PH and the channel and hope that they tighten the story. And yes allow some posts that criticize the show so that the PH so that if they drop by the forums, get an gist of what is not working. Internet audience consists of less than 10% of viewership and the show has to make an impact across the audience in India. Just painting everything as rosy is not good.

PS:- Don't mock me as a Sanaya Basher/Hater/Barun fangirl. Few things that I am very intolerant of. If you don't understand my post, then it is better you don't reply to it rather than mocking my intentions and figuring out my "hidden agenda". If you have point to discuss do post it here or pm me and we can talk. Please avoid just posting and quoting for the heck of it.

@ bold agree. I wish people would understand this. Im not saying people on this forum are blind but it would be nice if others voice are heard, considered and appreciated.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: psarada


@Bold:- I disagree on that. Maybe it happens in rural india, not in cities. In cities, parents go out of their way to be friends with their children's spouses because all of them are educated and they know that the children are capable of leading their own lives. So for me whatever the clash that the PH is promoting here doesn't hold any substance because the clash between UB and CC doesn't have any basis. Doesn't UB know that Manav is going to walk out with CC if Chanchan goes out. She knows Manav loves ChanChan like crazy, they are legally married so how does she plan on getting CC out and get Manav remarried. I hope she does know that if Manav were to remarry, he first needs to be divorced from CC - See that kind of loopholes are too many in this script and that is the reason I feel this show is not making a mark.


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Sorry for posting here.
Edited by DiyaS - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: DiyaS


Sorry to disagree ... but I have seen parents disowning their children in my own family ... where not only the children but also the parents were very highly educated but were conservative in the extreme . Have also seen it happening among friends in my own generation, again from big cities and again both parties were educated and liberal, but has their own reasons for objecting to the relationships. The estrangement lasted for years in some cases. So you cannot generalise and say this doesn't happen in big cities - it very much does.

So this part is completely believable for me ... I have seen many love marriages in my family and friends, and I have seen all this happening very often.

I think you have not been watching the show AT ALL. The whole point for Umaben being nice to CC on the surface is exactly that ... she knows that Manav will leave with CC ... UNLESS she can make Manav himself either throw CC out, or believe that CC will not fit in with his family. That will obviously be followed by a divorce.
That is exactly the reason she is being two faced. Please do try to watch the show before giving your remarks.



@Diya - I have not seen anyone doing this - disowning kids because they married some one of their choice. In fact, in the last 3 yrs in bangalore I must have attended close to 15 marriages of my office friends and in my neighborhood and out of them only 2 were arranged marriages. My next door neighbor is a Telugu brahmin and his daughter is married to a christian and son is married to a muslim. So I can't connect to the way UB is acting. I agree before marriage, parents try emotional blackmail to make their kids listen to them and that I have seen happening. So I can very well understand that UB made the natak of falling sick and getting a promise from Manav to marry a girl of her choice. That much I can relate to but usually after the marriage is done, people adjust off to the married pair - not because they gave up or lost but because now the feelings of their own child is involved in the matter. The way UB is scheming to destroy the marriage of CC and have CC thrown out even when she knows Manav is madly, deeply in love with her is not real, or at least I can't connect to that feeling. And all this for what? which clash? The basis of the clash itself is not clear. Is Chanchan some long lost rival. Nope nothing like that. Rather if they show UB a domineering saas who is standing for her way of thinking always and CC opposes it, yes that I can take. Show UB as one who rules with an iron hand and show CC as someone who shows UB the mirror - that even though all her kids listen to her they are not happy with her. That would be a better clash and a better premise.

@Bold:- I do watch the show everyday Diya. But like I said many times before the story is not reeling me in. So yes I do watch the show on FF mode. And once I am done, then I don't go back for repeats. So maybe I am not that involved in the show but I don't give remarks without watching. Please don't assume that I am giving my remarks without even watching the show. At least I thought you knew me more than that.

Edited by psarada - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaS



Sorry to disagree ... but I have seen parents disowning their children in my own family ... where not only the children but also the parents were very highly educated but were conservative in the extreme . Have also seen it happening among friends in my own generation, again from big cities and again both parties were educated and liberal, but has their own reasons for objecting to the relationships. The estrangement lasted for years in some cases. So you cannot generalise and say this doesn't happen in big cities - it very much does.

So this part is completely believable for me ... I have seen many love marriages in my family and friends, and I have seen all this happening very often.

I think you have not been watching the show AT ALL. The whole point for Umaben being nice to CC on the surface is exactly that ... she knows that Manav will leave with CC ... UNLESS she can make Manav himself either throw CC out, or believe that CC will not fit in with his family. That will obviously be followed by a divorce.
That is exactly the reason she is being two faced. Please do try to watch the show before giving your remarks.



I know this is not addressed to me but as I am the TM am reply, excuse the bad manners. I do follow the show.

rural or cities no mother with best interest for her son cracks a deal which involves money and broken marriage of her son.

Uma Ben is sugary sweet on top in general so this does not hold special value in CC-Manav case. Also what I got out of UB's action is that she will not blow up her cover in the family ... It has nothing to do with her love for her son.

Also as I said its lovely when I read your posts of an episode unlike when I watch it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: psarada

Sama,

Agree with you. It is very easy to praise everything and see the show through the tinted eye glasses wherein your favorite is doing a good job. However it is an entirely different ball game to discuss and accept the faults in the show. For all the numerous posts I have seen here since yesterday when the rumors started that CC is under scanner, all I have seen is the blame game - Push blame onto Barun fans, SaRun fans or Barun himself when Barun is no where in the picture. When you give feedback it is immediately deduced whether you are a barun fan or a Sarun fan or a Sanaya fan. Don't you think Barun is becoming a easy target for everything that is wrong is Chanchan. FK when he was not able to act passed the blame on IPK fans and washed off his hands off this project without taking any responsibility for the show not clicking. Then didn't everyone raise a hue and cry saying he is not even a decent human being. Then what are the fans doing from yesterday - they are also passing the blame of the show failure on Barun and who knows maybe the PH will also pass the blame of show failure on Barun and IPK jodi. Then will any of them be better than FK - no they are not. Accepting what doesn't work out and working on it will only get you some progress.

And for people saying that this show is very realistic, for a person who has seen the same PH's earlier show Saas Bina Sasural, the character of Toasty with its faults and strong points was a much better sketched character and just because you haven't seen other shows don't jump and say that what Sanaya is doing is the best character. Saas Bina Sasural had much better storyline that CC had in these 4 months and this show was produced by the same PH. So instead of just praising that things are working and pushing off the faults under the rug, please do tell your honest feedback to the PH and the channel and hope that they tighten the story. And yes allow some posts that criticize the show so that the PH so that if they drop by the forums, get an gist of what is not working. Internet audience consists of less than 10% of viewership and the show has to make an impact across the audience in India. Just painting everything as rosy is not good.

PS:- Don't mock me as a Sanaya Basher/Hater/Barun fangirl. Few things that I am very intolerant of. If you don't understand my post, then it is better you don't reply to it rather than mocking my intentions and figuring out my "hidden agenda". If you have point to discuss do post it here or pm me and we can talk. Please avoid just posting and quoting for the heck of it.



Thank you Sarada for elaborating my points and UB reactions too.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: adithyan

sama ...aap bhi na...😆



Haan mein kya ?! 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#17
Well...just commenting coz its your post..😊 and you know it well this will be my first and last comment in this place.
Since previous co-stars discussion was not allowed in this forum, yet i have seen people bringing him as comparison or indirect digs and also his fans. Well when forum rules states it not to mention him, I dont know why people bring him in discussion then. I have seen show since I liked sanaya's previous show and I do think she is fantastic actress and I really like supriya pathak. however story didnt have pull to me as audience. Since I could not connect initially to show so I stopped watching...yeah one of reason was ML during initial days coz he cudnt act well.
When new ML came , I did try for few episodes but sorry I cud not relate with tracks going on then. Being modern doesnt really mean using technology wisely, it is more of being liberal in thoughts and adaptive to change. I have followed this PH prev show till it was light hearted comedy show..when it became too preachy,I had stopped following it. I did enjoy light moments in the show in start with puchpuch being totally adorable but then they didnt have proper strong execution thus it could not interest me. i havent followed the show from past few weeks so I cant say if the tracks have improved or not. Well if they have improved ,it is good for audience and actor/actress involved . People love saas -bahu confrontation thus hopefully when UB 's real motive comes in front of CC and we have some tu tu mein mein..it will be worth watching but they still need continuation and tight script to execute it.
Hopefully people acknowledge your post as constructive criticism from a neutral viewer perspective and dont judge you by which fandom you belong...
Edited- Like tanya said...You indeed are brave girl👏👏
Edited by riti4u - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sama, first reaction to your post… Girl you are brave, to come here and post an honest & critical review of the show!! Yes, I watched ChannChann purely because it had Sanaya in it and had previously loved her portrayal of Khushi (for most parts). But one week of watching and the show failed to hold my interest for more than a week.

I agree with psarada, many in this show seem to be passing the buck. If there is even a hint of criticism, then there is a hidden agenda somewhere. The only way a show can truly progress is with an honest feedback. I highlight feedback; please do not confuse this will petitions & requests for romance etc… People's feedback will vary based on their experiences and what they have witnessed in life. A good PH will be interested in getting feedback from viewers of all background! But that is only if you allow such feedbacks a chance to be written.

Yes, Sanaya is very pretty. There is no argument from my side regarding that. But I genuinely wish people in this forum would see beyond that and look at the bigger picture which is the show in itself.

A lot of times, I come here in the hopes of reading people's views, but there is almost none. And even if there are, most of them are defensive posts. If people do post that they are not pleased with what they see or it failed to click, almost everyone here has the reaction - what are you doing here then or if you don't like it don't watch it. And looking at the state of the show that is what people are doing - changing the channels; when in reality you need people to tune in. Rather than creating an atmosphere of a "no go area", why not an atmosphere where healthy discussions can take place, a chance for the show to progress?

UB as a MIL is too dark. Yes, there are mothers out there who interfere in their son's married life & won't stop at anything to get rid of the DIL. But most of them do so because of a misguidance sense of love for their son. But here it's not the love for her son that is prompting her to do what she does! This is not a Saas Bahu show with a difference! In fact, it's a very poor attempt by the makers to show conflicts between Saas and bahu. Poor characterisations & weak story line is the biggest problem in the show.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I like your review TM. I started watching this show, hoping to see 'Khoobsurat' play out on the small screen. I was very confident that with Supriyaji and Sanaya, the show would be a good watch.

But a few weeks into the show,it was clear that here was no Khoobsurat in the making. This was more a clash between the evil domineering MIL and the good DIL. And somehow, even with two great performers, the story, for me, is falling a little flat. I still like to watch it, just for S and S. I just wish the makers would, even as we write, wake up and tighten the plot and steer this ship properly,

Banishing the DIL into the terrace with her dog, asking her to use a public toilet is just not done. No one can relate to such stuff. And CC, being a modern girl should be made to stand up against such stuff instead of being accepting of it ( for eg. 'my Dadaji was also strict with my dad. Once his anger abates, he will call me in') like a traditional meek DIL.

I'm all for romance between the leads and they both look good, so bring it on. However, it would be nice if they showed more understanding between the leads as well. Manav sulking because CC wanted to go to PP was, for me, weird, because he ought to know how much CC loves her dogs, especially PP. actually, the dog trainer bit was cool. Why have they just cut it out?

The 'get Manav married to other girl' track is baffling. Which father will agree to such an arrangement?

Oh! And about the phangirl bit, I totally agree with your post. Posts are closed down in this forum when Barun's name is mentioned but several take digs at him directly and indirectly (he who must not be named etc etc)
I really think it is unfair to target him for something he is not even closely related to, namely, this show.



Edited by NakshatraWunsch - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Sama.. nice post..

basically in indian television .. it is not what they show but how convincingly they show it.. the tracks in CC are not something which have not come before but it would do the show a great deal of good if the makers take it a bit slow .. the tracks seem kind of rushed sometimes .. they have got a good cast .. they can still turnaround the show and get good trps with a little bit of depth and insight in the story telling.. just my feedback from what i have watched of the show...

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