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Posted: 8 years ago
Thank you, my dear Sri. As for reflecting my thoughts in your FB post, that is because we think alike on many things!

Do try out those films, you will enjoy all of them. Yes, and Mere Apne too, which was wonderful and was also Meena Kumari's last film. You will love it just for the chance to listen to her voice, like liquid honey with a husky undertone. Marvellous. Those were the real divas, and there are none like them today.

Shyamala Akka

Originally posted by: jayaks02


Superb tribute to Vinod Khanna - Had not watched much of his films but he came across very graceful and soft spoken in the SImi Garewal interview he did years ago with his much learned wife Kavitha ( WHo used to work for Mckinsey). He has done very unconventional things - I watched Amar Akbar Anthony song today - When someone is going, I want to remember that phase and face especially for some one as handsome as Vinod Khanna.

I wrote a very small note in my FB page 1 hour back and somehow reflected very few of your thoughts here.

Will try to catch up some of the movies you mentioned.


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Of course Prem. and I used to like him a very great deal. I came to him only when I came back from Geneva in the mid-70s, by which time he had crossed his days as a very menacing villain - I missed Mera Gaon Mera Desh- and moved on to hero roles.

One thing was that he was very handsome in the classical Indian maharaja like style. He was perfect as the young Rana in Meera. Dharmendra's good looks were more earthy and dehati. He was also genuinely macho, and did not need props like stylised entries and staged fight scenes to create that impression. He had presence in spades.

Two, his performances were alway very competent, and at times - as in Achanak, Inkaar, Imtehaan, Lekin, Meera, Satyameva Jayate and even in regular masala movies like Insaaf- superb. But he could not handle comedy very well - for he was too dignified to really let himself go - and was generally at his best in serious scenes.

Though he succeeded quite easily and never had the very long run of failures that Amitabh Bachchan had to surmount at the beginning of his career, Vinod Khanna seems to have resented the better treatment given by scripts to Amitabh, which was of course dictated by Amitabh's mass popularity. But that is the sort of thing that was not unique to him; Naseeruddin Shah, with all his art film dominance, also resented the fact that he could not match Amitabh's raw mass appeal. Like Laurence Olivier wanting to be a superstar like Cary Grant!

Not many could have restarted a film career as Vinod Khanna did after dropping out for 4 years at his peak. And not many would have walked away like that to follow an inner calling. The man was clearly different from the usual run of film heroes.The Osho International Centre in Pune is less than a km from where I live, and it is still doing well.

I do not know anything about his private persona, but that seems to have been dignified too, unlike the crude antics of many of the current generation of so-called stars. I am sure his soul will rest in peace after a life well lived. He should have had many more years, but then the Big C is an enemy that very few can conquer.

Shyamala Aunty





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Posted: 8 years ago
My dear Ria,

Here I am at last!

As for Peshwa Bajirao, I would like you to go to that forum and see a couple of threads I had opened there a week or so ago. The forum index is quite small, and you will probably find them on page 2 or 3. They are quite short threads, so you can look thru them quickly. What I have written there pretty much sums up what I feel about this wonderful show, which I watch religiously not for the lead character, but in spite of him, and for the marvellous side characters, especially Aurangzeb, who, alas, is soon to leave us, Balaji Vishwanath, Radha Bai, Tara Rani Saheb, and the Chimna-Bihu duo. It is wonderful that the script devotes long scenes to Aurangzeb and Tara Rani.

Now as for TRPs, 0.5 is NOT good, as compared to what Maharana Pratap or CAS had for over a year, and Bajirao has done only 69 episodes.The reason is simple, at least to my mind: Maharana Pratap had Faisal Khan and CAS had Siddharth Nigam. They were stars, and they gave the show a boost right from the start. The high TRPs lasted till they were there. Here, you have this Dobby 2.0. Period.

It is the most unfortunate case of miscasting that I can remember, and if they choose the over sized, wooden Nikitin Dheer for the adult Bajirao, as is being predicted, why then that will sound the death knell of the show. Already it is stuck with a bad timing and no repeats, none at all.

As for Maharana Ranjit Singh, it is nice and smooth, even if predictable, like tasty home made fare. It is not electric, it does not make me sit up and rewatch episodes, and the young Ranjit Singh, Damanpreet, is transparently decent and has a very appealing presence, but he does not seem to have the panache that a youngster who later became Maharaja Ranjit Singh would surely have always had.

But I was reassured over the last 2 episodes on seeing that he is not a dumbo because he is a good guy, but has an instinctively suspicious mind, which is de rigueur for all successful rulers. As for the female lead, Mahtab Kaur ( mahtab means the moon, as aftab means the sun), who played Ahankara in CAS, she is a delight, and I love their relationship, one of easy camaraderie devoid of any coquetry, which is very refreshing. And the best looker in the show is the bad guy Sahib Singh!😉

All in all, I am very glad I dumped this farce of a Chandra Nandini, Rajat or no Rajat, and switched to Maharaja Ranjit Singh, which I now look forward to daily.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: .Avengers.

Aunty your description of baji actor left me 🤣 Dobby look alike, that was epic. I thought show was going good, trp well for Desi tv it's hardly based on confent, or else nagin2 won't be having top ratings.


May I know how you liking Ranjit Singh and how's the show going so far? I stay away from historical cause whatever I read on book don't match on screen but he's one character who's magnificent! And everyone around me is busy with bajirao so wanted to know your views.

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Posted: 8 years ago
At last! I have finally located this post of yours, which I particularly wanted to commend. It is perfect, my dear Shailaja, especially the part now in blue, which is so perceptive that I must applaud it right now.👏

I see that you have either developed this strain of pawky humour, or you always had it but are revealing it only now. Whichever it is, I loved this specimen, above all the marvellous closing crack about star crossed viewers.😆

As for the rapid deterioration in the script, it began even earlier, from episode 111, and it peaked, or rather hit the bottom of the barrel by episode 121, which was when Chandra abandoned the throne for love and I abandoned him and the show for the sake of my sanity!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Hi everyone! So I have stopped watching the show. As far as the optimism of die-hard fans and their rose-tinted vision goes, nothing can diminish or sully its brilliance. It is better for us not to inflict our uncompromising viewpoints on them. I have always liked Rajat's acting in historical shows and watched his acting with interest. But my interest as far as this one goes had ended.


The show never rose after Chandra abdicated and ditched his people for Nandini as far as I am concerned. Perhaps I am not too young or I am too logical and sensible. Whatever it is, I can see the clear writing on the wall without the aid of any magnifying lenses to confirm it. This show will meander along like this without any story and then inch to its end. Nothing to expect from it. But all the same, it will be watched with interest by fans of Rajat and the lead pair even if they are currently sleepwalking through the ruins.

They will absolutely find something to gush over like, "How excellently Chandra sleepwalked without batting an eyelid, how awesome the curls of Nandini looked, how they will read a meaning in the blank expressions the lead pair is giving to their overwhelming love for each other and how they do not care what happens to the rest of the world, etc. What they see, we cannot guess; and what we fail to see, they do not understand how all this escapes us. A tragic star crossed tale of two sets of viewers!

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Posted: 8 years ago
Here I am, my dear Joyee, with apologies for being so late with this. But I could not help it. In fact after getting this post off, I am calling a halt for the day, as my eye exam yesterday seems to have so forceful that its effects still linger, making my eyes very tired.

As you have collared blue, my comments are in green.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Animal.Lover

Big hug aunty 🤗

An adda it sure is for the likes of us, and the most pleasantly stimulating one, truth be told!

Because sometimes I do visit that other "analysis" (?) thread in humor, and each time I cannot help but marvel at the girl's spirit of optimism. Rajat might have given up on the show, but she hasn't 😆

My dear, the stuff there is so sachcharine that it will give the likes of you and me diabetes. It is not optimism, it is adoration,that too of the blind variety, and there is no arguing with that, is there?

Although, more than her, there is this other forum member whose admiration for the show is plain truculent. She calls herself Munni, I don't know if that's her real name, because it's too docile for someone with that kind of a virtual disposition, and a rather grim, albeit aptly chosen Rajat image for dp 😛

Oho, so you landed up in that briar patch, is it?😆She is Shreya, and she is fiercely protective of Rajat. She tolerates me because no one else can praise him as eloquently as I can, but at times she used to try to quarrel even with me when she felt that I was not being warm enough or even critical! But I never quarrel with youngsters!

The Tanu Khan fan comment was hilarious though 😆

Aunty, you are right in not returning to the show, it's in total ruins now, which is so sad given the fact that it had just started to build up to be a decent show since last month. These days Rajat looks exhausted, defeated rather, and I actually feel bad for him. As you said somewhere before, even the Jodha worshiping Jalal had worlds more "Jalal" (luster) about him, than this Chandra, who looks undeniably "grahan"ed.

I am hoping too that the show ends by it's 200th or 250th, at least that way the part-apathetic-part-curious ones like me would know for sure what finally happened in the CN universe. And honestly, I don't care so much about the CN love story anymore, mostly because nowadays I feel Nandini deserves better. I just want a proper, excruciating and wrathful Helena and Apama expose, that's all! For me, it'll be the most satisfying episode, and I shall watch it twice, with popcorn and fries 😆

Well, whatever I have been hearing about the last 20 odd episodes after I quit, and that little video clip that was posted a few pages earlier on this thread, make me feel that I was wise to leave when I did.

For one thing, though the Roman legionnaire look for Chandra's costume, abandoning the 9 yard angavastram, is welcome, his new streaked haircut is not, and nor did I like the demented glare he stuck to in that video clip. Nor am I ready to see Chandragupta Maurya, who literally worshipped Chanakya in real life, argue with him and contradict him in front of Apama. It is ugly and intolerable. 😡I think this script is by now beyond redemption.

This thread HAS to live on till then at least, I don't think the solo moderator even exists anymore, and I don't blame her 😆 So the page count may easily go up to 500, and that would definitely mean outliving the show itself 😆

Well, the sole mod must be pleased to have at least one peacable and well behaved thread, so I do not think she will close us down on grounds of the length!😉

I completely agree about Mohit Raina as well, who even till the end of that colossal chaos continued to look so convincingly involved. But aunty, somehow I have always loved the teen version of Asoka a lot more (don't know his name) than the adult one.

That is the problem with a historical or mythological show where the junior male lead is so good and so popular that he makes life very difficult for the adult version. It was the same with Faisal in Maharana Pratap, with Siddharth in Chakravartin Ashoka Samrat, and of course with Rajat in Prithviraj Chauhan.

Siddharth was loved as the young Ashoka, though he was a rather unbelievable Goody Two Shoes, and then came Mohit Raina, twice as large as Siddharth, and shackled by a lousy script that left him with nothing to do but to moon after Kaurwaki.

Mohit is an excellent actor, and not only in Mahadev. I have seen him in the snatches of Bandini that I stumbled across, and he was very convincing. He can do comedy with perfect conviction, and he was excellent in the love scenes in CAS, for which of course there was no scope in Mahadev. He can also handle uncontrollable rage without going over the top. What I liked about him as a person in the last 2 weeks of CAS was that he did not shut up shop and sleepwalk thru those episodes. He did his best to the end, and that was admirable.

Although I really like Raina otherwise - especially as Mahadev - he was wow! DKDM had a brilliant cast mostly, no doubt - the best television versions of Mahadev, Narayan and Kartikeya especially. Because generally, in mytho shows like these, either they cast a wonderful Shiva and the Narayan is a let down, or viceversa.

But DKDM got BOTH just right...under the same roof (show) 👏

I agree, my dear. Even Narada was perfect, as was the sleazy Indra.

But it was not as Mahadev that Mohit was at his best in DKD Mahadev. It was as the turbulent, star-crossed, doomed, tragic Jalandhar. I wrote in that forum only for the 6 weeks of the Jalandhar track, and if I say so myself, those posts were really good. So much so that the writer, Utkarsh Naithani, and I became good friends, and towards the end of the Jalandhar track, he wrote a scene that he told me was specially for me, as he felt only I would understand it properly.

If you have missed that track, do try and catch up with it. It was from early May to early June 2013. And if you feel up to it, with my posts as well. Half of them are on Utkarsh's FB page, however, including some of the best, written over the last 10 days. But I have all of them, as Mohit Raina's webpage administrator asked for them and posted them there.

Accha, who do you think was a better Parvati, aunty? I liked Sonarika the most. God knows why she left.

Sonarika, of course. She was a real, statuesque beauty, and was the perfect Parvati. She was foolish to quarrel with the PH, apparently over parity with Mohit, and leave. And the show suffered too, of course, but I think she lost more.

Also, do you think Rajat should do another historical after CN?

If it is going to be an Ekta production, NO! She will reduce him to something that is less than 50% of Chandra, just as she has made this Chandra less than 50% of Jalal. Besides, what major historical character is left for him to play, unless it is Chandragupta Vikramaditya of the Gupta dynasty or Harshavardhan? Shivaji, perhaps.

The problem is that a non-historical seems to almost always mean a soap, and there are no strong male roles in those. I would ideally like him to play a Holmesian character, the lead in a detective series, or a famous tycoon or a hotshot lawyer in a show centred on him.

OK, my eyes are kaput by now.Bye, my dear.

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Posted: 8 years ago
This forum is so quiet peaceful one that AT closed down is shocking to say least. People must have one hell of a fight in there 😆

Welcome back Aunty, and thanks for the response. I was thinking to visit PB forum for days now that you guys were discussing about that show but it keeps slipping my mind. Will do today pakka. Btw you made any posts in Ranjit Singh forum? I am itching to read episode analysis from you, don't really care about what show 😆 since CN disappointed bad I can only hope something else catch your eye and you become active once again.

ETA aunty having a fight with a youngster fan would be ten times more entertaining than our tv screen RN😆😆 I would actually pay to watch that
Edited by .Avengers. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
There are some pundits who keep writing why people like Arvind kejriwal are a misfit in politics - They damage the system more than even the seemingly apparent bad ones. And I was told that Chanakya's Arth Sastra touched upon this topic. He had the foresight to write 2000 years back half baked self-indulgent street fighters are no good for Governance. He had described the qualities required for a ruler so clearly that it applies in today's context in every country polity.

Such a man is reduced to do a Face off with Aapama and he was asked to return the Raj Mudra to her. Not sure if this is a ploy by CC to catch Team Greece red handed but the last bit of respect that was associated with him was taken off. And he jumps the gun and raises voice at the drop of a hat like his enmity towards Nandini etc. Characters like Chankya are too revered and I feel that EKta should not have touched CGM at all.

I am watching the serial and want to stay till the end just to see what other sillier things are going to come about. My biggest interest would be what will drive CGM to Shravanabelugola . 😉 In reality, it was a 12 year drought and he having got into a frustration with that.
Edited by jayaks02 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I ve heard a news that they have choosed Siddharth Nigam for the role after that kid in PB. Was it just a spoiler?
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: skamunugama

I ve heard a news that they have choosed Siddharth Nigam for the role after that kid in PB. Was it just a spoiler?



For playing Bindusara ?


CGM character itself is not established for that matter no one's. Nand alive and roaming, CK fighting with Aapama. Nandini in a stupid caretaker role . Better they close by July . There is no storyline they have in mind. 😡
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

As for support for Shwetha, while I have not seen the thread as it would be too fatiguing, that is most likely as a reaction against Rajat. She has NOTHING like the frenetic fan following Paridhi's Jodha had.


I have no clue about the AT, but I really like Shweta these days, aunty
Not frenetically though, because I know the kinds you are talking about 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

He was only an Ambassador, Anu.

I don't watch the show, so I do not know about this mammoth natakiya rupantar, but when Chanakya is there, how can this chap become the Mukhya Mahaamatya? See, I am so glad I quit when I did!

Shyamala Akka


Inspite of the mess that the show is, I have a strong hunch this whole CK and CGM fallout could be an act to unmask Apama and co. I know I am probably sounding a bit too optimistic here, given the fact that CN's Chandra and Chanakya are a definite team of dolts...established so many times already! But still, I have this strange hope against hopes. Remember the Jalal against Atgah Khan times?

But the funniest development in the show is Megesthenes as the new Maha Amatya! Wow!! Imaginations flying high. Another man tosses in his grave 🤡
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