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Posted: 3 years ago
#41

I agree. Too much propaganda against him and even false statements attributed to him that he had threatened to leave India, return his Padma awards if Modi became PM again. Or that he said Hindus should not pour milk on Shivling but donate to poor. Or the LIE that he said his wives may be Hindus but his kids will only follow Islam. And drama linking him to ISI, China, Turkey or part of Pak and China nexus against India.

It is insane how even educated people are believing these lies and forwarding on all sites or hating him.

There is propaganda against his old films too that he had agenda against Hindus from day one which is why he showed Rajput families killing main leads in honour killing in QSQT.

So now hate has gone back to his first film too and not just PK or the time he bashed Modi for Gujarat riots!

Aamir is indeed facing unprecedented hate by IT cell against him. Verified IDs of Sanghis pushing propaganda against him online.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#42

I wish I could say it was otherwise but it is true that years of propaganda against Khans is paying off and having effects in real life. Even their old films are bashed for having so called anti India or anti Hindu agenda.

They are linked to ISI, Dawood or accused of hurting other actors in Bollywood or controlling BW like mafia.

Verified IDs of IT cell and news channels peddle hate against them.

The dent in reputation is real. It has not entirely eroded their base or goodwill in audience but it did affect sizeable section and caused them to dislike Khans or shun them.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_demon

Aamir should have never remade FG. Completely unnecessary. Comparisons are inevitable. He set himself up for failure. Classics should be left untouched.

I saw LSC. I liked it. But zero mass appeal. So this failure isn’t surprising!

Other actors can get over a flop and come back stronger. But Aamir takes 5 years to make a movie. SRK took and break after Zero and has filmed 3 movies in the last 2-3 years or so.

The boycott for LSC was also real. On the ground level. My parents have watched every Aamir movie on the big screen including secret superstar but they refused to go for LSC. I convinced my cousin to come with me.

My dad has been staring hundreds of Anti-Aamir posts on WhatsApp for a few weeks now. The boycott against Aamir is extremely real.

At this point, I think, he is the most hated actor in the world. The negativity against him on SM and the ground level is shocking!

It’s not surprising because he has been extremely vocal politically. SRK and Salman wisely keep their mouth shut.

Plus Aamir doesn’t have the raw stardom and fanbase that SRK and Salman have. Neutral fans used to watch his movies and now they are ones who dislike him. My family for example.

I don’t know what’s in store for Aamir. If he is going to retire or something. But if he is planning to continue acting, he needs to come back with a massy entertainer. That will be only thing that can help him.

He's not the most hated, America has Johnny Depp of all things.

Aamir just needs to stop taking off more than he can chew. If Junaid played the younger version like Aamir thought, it would have worked better.

Less pointed social commentary in his films will help too. Nothing wrong with pushing a message of religious freedom, but then bringing in an unrealistic way of portraying it (A Pakistani terrorist) hurts his case.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#44

Bluntly speaking his use of real life events was also gimmicky and superficial.

Punjab of 80s was not peaceful at all. Funny how rural area is shown normal and kids run alone in fields at night in era of Operation Bluestar! Though reality was that there usef to be curfews, blackouts and rural areas were most affected by militancy and there would be frequent encounters and blasts and people hardly got out or let kids roam freely alone outside then as shown in film.

Also, premarital sex and live in of an interfaith couple in rural Punjab in early 2000s was unthinkable. And no one having issues with it as shown in film? Naah. It is unthinkable even now.

It was foolish to transplant Hollywood film in an Indian rural setting without knowing culture or society of India.

I am not surprised many did not relate to the film.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#45

Box office failures come and go. But the way Aamir’s rep has been destroyed, that’s what’s alarming!


This movie would have been a disaster anyway. But Aamir needs to focus on building his rep again. I don’t know how he is going to do it though.

He also takes several years to make a movie. What’s the use if you’re coming after 5 years to deliver a dud, disappear for 5 years and deliver a dud again!

Akshay took 40 days to film Prithviraj. That movie has much more collections than LSC that took 4 years to film. Aamir has to re-think and do a lot of instrospection - regarding his working style, the time he takes to finish a project, the political statements in his movies and interviews etc.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#46

atominis, with all the details you gave it seems to be a poorly researched movie...and that is a shoddy work of an Indian crew in India.

Also, Aamir had the time through the lockdowns to ponder about the tone of the film...a sad film for people who still live with a virus present in their lives.

Thirdly, for an intelligent man it should have been obvious that he (and his movie) would be heavily targeted...so why on earth bringing as a crucial point in the movie such an unnecessary Pakistani-friend story (it's NOT 2004 anymore!).

And last (but not least), his private life may play a role, too...with a child in UK he doesn't admit (rumour only?), two divorces, during and after Dangal (alleged) relationship with a very young actress (apparently a live-in one)...

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Posted: 3 years ago
#47

IDK if Aamir and co researched events or added them for heck of it as markers of the era Lal lived through.

Or if they did try to show well researched stuff but their film was heavily censored...or they edited it themselves to avoid controversies.

For eg, they totally omitted incidents like 2008 Kandhamal riots, Graham Staines murder, 2002 Gujarat pogrom and KP exodus, Chatisinghpora massacre. Despite having Christian character in the film they could have shown some reference to anti Christian riots too but they did not.

The film seems to end in 2018 so it skipped lynching incidents also. It kept playing as safe as possible.


The film is indeed sad in post pandemic times with Lal losing all 3 people who loved him most in life and were only ones who warmed up to him. And also losing his friend who moved away.


I think Indian filmmakers seem to believe that showing Indo Pak unity or reforming or melting heart of terrorist is the biggest thing they can show in name of power of love and kindness or show how Indians have bigger hearts and their love and kindness can change Pak based militants too. They better realise that this trope no longer works nor is it convincing.


I do not think Aamir's personal life affects his films. His first divorce or public spat with his dad and brother or fights with rivals or Amole Gupte, political spats, banning media and awards or his love child did not affect his films like Fanaa, RDB, TZP, Ghajini from becoming hits. He openly fought with Chetan Bhagat over credit issue but it did not affect 3 Idiots. Even his intolerance statement or public bashing of BJP, Modi did not affect Dangal, PK, Dhoom 3 or earlier Fanaa and RDB.


This time he indeed failed in story telling, marketing, screenplay, time of release, promotion, choice of subject, lack of justification for many scenes, no understanding of rural context or showing events superficially, too many loose ends, no one knows why he was running for so long and no one stopped him or where he remained all those years. LSC is not the kind of film one will watch in theatre. And if you are already grieving or recovering from loss this film makes you sadder as it made me sadder and I did not recommend it to other relatives who are recently bereaved or suffered loss. Not a relief giving watch or distraction in post pandemic times. It can help you grieve more though if you want and convince you, that you have nothing in your own hands and are puppet at hands of fate and time.


Chal kaleya song resonated a lot with me.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#48

My thought is all the Khans and Akshay are in their late to mid 50"s. They need to act their age and not romance girls who are old enough to be their daughter and grand daughter.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#49

Khans need to realize that their careers are over now because extremist Hindus with the support of BJP has started a huge boycott campaign against them.


LSC is not even a great movie but the reason it flopped this much is only because of the hateful boycott campaign. Denying that is crazy

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Journey95

Khans need to realize that their careers are over now because extremist Hindus with the support of BJP has started a huge boycott campaign against them.


LSC is not even a great movie but the reason it flopped this much is only because of the hateful boycott campaign. Denying that is crazy

It’s a combination of many things. But boycott will only work on Aamir and not the other two Khans. He does not have the raw stardom and fanbase of SRK and Salman. Neutrals loved him but the same neutrals now hate him and want to boycott him. The way my family has been fully brainwashed against Aamir thanks to millions of WhatsApp fwds is disturbing.

Salman is practically never targeted by the boycott gang as his family is friends with the ruling party. SRK’s good image has increased on the ground. My dad was praising SRK for doing the cameo on Rocketry..

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