The Kashmir Files | Official Trailer I Anupam I Mithun - Page 7

Looks really good and heartbreaking 😒. Can't wait to see it

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Carried away? Does she know how many lives she endangered because of her "real time" journalism?!

The audacity!

I don't even care what side she's on when it comes to politics, but how could she not, even for once, think of the people who were trapped in the hotel, not knowing where to go or what to do?!

I have studied hospitality and our professors would tell us certain personal incidents that happened during the Taj and Oberoi attack. Would've stated it but I don't want to go thru that again. Even though I lived far from the locations, those three days and the fear that followed was horrible.

U know what? Most of the media and entertainers r only on one side..khud ka faayda

Originally posted by: catchmeifucan

An NYtimes article from 1991 about the genocide and mass exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits!

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/15/world/hindus-who-fled-kashmir-bitter-over-fate.html

Have you guys seen shikara?

https://youtu.be/LoZXboySl2I

I think the movie didn’t get good publicity.

Originally posted by: Minionite

No what she did was tell it how it was. Germans (Nazis) did not see it as a holocaust. They saw it as nationalism. They saw it is if they were getting rid of "traitors". Only after WWII did Germans realize what it really was.

Forget Germany. What do you think happened with the Aboriginals/First Nations in Western countries? Residential schools? The Church and Western countries (mine included) saw it is necessary to teach the "barbaric" First Nations the way of the West. They didn't see it as anything wrong. It's only years later (in fact in the past 20ish years) that they've begun to realize how wrong it was and are doing things to fix it. This is happening now. Literally happening now.

Look at any time in history and I'm sure you'll find such examples. Rwanda genocide. The apartheid. Slavery. Colonialism. So many examples. The countries or people behind these heinous crimes never thought they were wrong. They thought they were doing the right thing. They believed in the cause. The common man part of these heinous crimes was brainwashed, propagated, and politicized until they believed in the cause.

Those are big issues. Forget those and let's look at something smaller. Stereotypes. Unknown biases. For example, in Canada, US, Europe, when you see a Chinese, the immediate stereotype is that they must be good at math or rich if they are studying in that country. Indians are typically seen as "hardworkers". These are unknown biases that have taken route since a child because of our upbringings and our society. So, if tomorrow, we were told to only hire Indians, we probably wouldn't even blink twice. But years later we might realize our inherent bias and the wrongness of this move.

I'm not saying that the common man is innocent or that these heinous crimes should be forgotten. But everyone needs to understand there is no white and black when it comes to such crimes. There is only grey. Yes those at the very top are definitely criminals, but how do we know that every Muslim who partook in these crimes is 100% black? Is it not possible that their circumstances, their society, their beliefs, and the teachings from above turned them that way? Many Nazi soldiers, after WWII was over, realized their wrong. Heck some even realized it during the Holocaust. How do you think slaves escaped? Because some White people realized how wrong it was. There aren't 2 buckets to group people in. It's more like a trench with flimsy doors that can be opened if people try.

The west may see Holocaust as wrong, but they don’t see what they did to Indians, Africans and Asians did in general wrong.

They still glorify Churchill.

Also, as RTH pointed out, the reasons are 💯 geo political when scapegoating of minorities being carried out, my family migrated from Pakistan during partition and my grandmother does say that it’s good partition happened, the wealth where they lived was mostly in the hands of Hindus. This is how British policy of divide and rule really worked. You give people a reason behind religion to feel angry at others.

Terrorist attacks also happen for a reason, they aren’t right but ofcourse they are brainwashed into believing that they are fighting for right. These people come from war torn and disputed countries/areas where they have probably lost their near and dear ones.

Indians were driven out of few African countries for the same reason. Like in Uganda, they had to flee. People were made to believe they will thrive after the businesses were handed over to them.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Have you guys seen shikara?

https://youtu.be/LoZXboySl2I

I think the movie didn’t get good publicity.

No.

Yes there wasn't much publicity I remember. Maybe the movie didn't show proper hatred which people really like in today's world!!!

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Have you guys seen shikara?

https://youtu.be/LoZXboySl2I

I think the movie didn’t get good publicity.

I heard about Shikara, but never watched it. The trailer never appealed to me. I must confess, Kashmir files trailer intrigues me more.

From what I hear, many people were disappointed because it was a love story with a backdrop of violence. It claimed to show a story about the Pundits but shied away from the more disturbing elements. Many people thought it didn't tell the whole story.

There is a place for all kinds of movies about deadly historic events. There have been love stories set against both world wars. And there are horrific war dramas showing the death toll and inhumanities. I understand why people are disappointed. The Kashmiri Pundit exodus has had very minimal portrayal in media. Many feel that people don't understand how bad the situation was and want movies that zero in on the atrocities.

I am concerned about a movie like Kashmir Files because many people will take it as an excuse to escalate Islamophobia. But just because people behave in extremities doesn't mean that truth should be censored or softened.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

The west may see Holocaust as wrong, but they don’t see what they did to Indians, Africans and Asians did in general wrong.

True. Despite apologies, USA and Canada continue to deny indigenous peoples their autonomy and rights, and often disenfranchise them from voting. Forget reparations, no western nation is willing to return stolen artifacts or hand back their diamond mines and oil wells in African nations.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Terrorist attacks also happen for a reason, they aren’t right but ofcourse they are brainwashed into believing that they are fighting for right. These people come from war torn and disputed countries/areas where they have probably lost their near and dear ones.

I also believe, one man's terrorist is another one's freedom fighter. It all depends on who is telling the story.

Storming Bastille. Sending Marie Antoinette and Louis to the guillotine. Imprisoning and then killing the Romanovs assassination style. Had a different side won we would be learning of the French peasant terrorism or Bolshevik terrorism instead of revolution.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

True. Despite apologies, USA and Canada continue to deny indigenous peoples their autonomy and rights, and often disenfranchise them from voting. Forget reparations, no western nation is willing to return stolen artifacts or hand back their diamond mines and oil wells in African nations.

I also believe, one man's terrorist is another one's freedom fighter. It all depends on who is telling the story.

Storming Bastille. Sending Marie Antoinette and Louis to the guillotine. Imprisoning and then killing the Romanovs assassination style. Had a different side won we would be learning of the French peasant terrorism or Bolshevik terrorism instead of revolution.

We all know that the West is never going to fully give Indigenous people everything back or return everything they've stolen. But even accepting their mistakes is a big step.

Agreed. We see Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Azad, etc. as freedom fighters but the British saw them as criminals. In the British history, they were probably originally written as criminals. Only years later did they finally see the British Raj as wrong.

Originally posted by: Minionite

We all know that the West is never going to fully give Indigenous people everything back or return everything they've stolen. But even accepting their mistakes is a big step.

Agreed. We see Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, Azad, etc. as freedom fighters but the British saw them as criminals. In the British history, they were probably originally written as criminals. Only years later did they finally see the British Raj as wrong.

But revolutionaries/freedom fighters are still different from terrorists.

Terrorists target innocent people, while freedom fighters try to bring justice by using violent methods.

Ofcoruse, things can go wrong here, like how Prafulla and Khudiram tried to assassinate British judge but ended up killing two British women by mistake instead, and Prafulla later committed suicide.

Its not like they rejoiced in kiling of innocents. There is a huge difference. Terrorists and extremist groups don't mind innocents being caught in the crossfire. The british too did not have any remorse in killing innocents.

In fact when queen Elizabeth and prince Philip visited Jallianwala bagh, Philip was disrespectful and obnoxious. The British never valued Indian life, or African, or native American for that matter.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

True. Despite apologies, USA and Canada continue to deny indigenous peoples their autonomy and rights, and often disenfranchise them from voting. Forget reparations, no western nation is willing to return stolen artifacts or hand back their diamond mines and oil wells in African nations.

I also believe, one man's terrorist is another one's freedom fighter. It all depends on who is telling the story.

Storming Bastille. Sending Marie Antoinette and Louis to the guillotine. Imprisoning and then killing the Romanovs assassination style. Had a different side won we would be learning of the French peasant terrorism or Bolshevik terrorism instead of revolution.

Yes, but anyone who is killing innocents without a shred of remorse is not a hero.

On another note, Pervez mushraff literally admitted on tape that "osama is a hero for us". 🤢