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Posted: 3 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

This.


I don't want the younger generation - Hindu or Muslim - to be targeted for what happened back then. However it is important to acknowledge history and to admit what went wrong, irrespective of religion or cast. Only then can the country move forward.


But we have "great" minds like Barkha Dutt who have God knows what agenda. I can never forgive the women for her reporting during 26/11. I can't even tell you where our anxiety and panic levels were at because of journalists like her.


Even during Kargil War

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: niyati13

Even during Kargil War

What did she do during Kargil?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

What did she do during Kargil?


Senior journalist Barkha Dutt gained prominence after her frontline war reporting on the Kargil war. She also did a live commentary during the ‘secret’ Tiger Hill operation.

Many argued that her live telecast during the counter terror operations was completely irresponsible as it only seemed to help the terrorists and their handlers. She is accused to have caused casualties on the Indian side as she gave away military locations in her broadcast.

A book titled “Kargil: Turning the Tide” written by Lt Gen Mohinder Puri( Indian Army Genral at that time) talked about Barkha Dutt’s reporting in Kargil war.

He mentioned that after the war he invited Barkha Dutt to his office and admired her for the professionalism she showed while reporting in the war. He then politely told her that she might have unintentionally shared Army’s plan with enemy by saying that “our next target is Tiger Hill”. This, however, does not prove that Barkha’s reporting caused casualties on the Indian side.


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https://www.udayavani.com/english-news/kargil-war-1999-the-impact-of-media-coverage-during-the-conflict

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Posted: 3 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22


I want Pandits to get justice and for the movie to tell their story. As simple as that.


Honestly this is a story that needs to be told for the younger generation to know what happened. Without any "villains" or "heroes". A straightforward story.


Heck forget the younger generation, I want a story that tells me what happened. I'm tired of reading half-baked stories online or stories told from one point of view or the other. Why is it so hard to give a straightforward story without the political agendas and the "villains" and "heroes"?


If this movie can be told in a way that isn't purposefully aggressive, then I fully welcome it.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: arnavfluffy


Did you just try to rationalize holocaust and blame it on nationalism?

Thats not nationalism.


No what she did was tell it how it was. Germans (Nazis) did not see it as a holocaust. They saw it as nationalism. They saw it is if they were getting rid of "traitors". Only after WWII did Germans realize what it really was.


Forget Germany. What do you think happened with the Aboriginals/First Nations in Western countries? Residential schools? The Church and Western countries (mine included) saw it is necessary to teach the "barbaric" First Nations the way of the West. They didn't see it as anything wrong. It's only years later (in fact in the past 20ish years) that they've begun to realize how wrong it was and are doing things to fix it. This is happening now. Literally happening now.


Look at any time in history and I'm sure you'll find such examples. Rwanda genocide. The apartheid. Slavery. Colonialism. So many examples. The countries or people behind these heinous crimes never thought they were wrong. They thought they were doing the right thing. They believed in the cause. The common man part of these heinous crimes was brainwashed, propagated, and politicized until they believed in the cause.


Those are big issues. Forget those and let's look at something smaller. Stereotypes. Unknown biases. For example, in Canada, US, Europe, when you see a Chinese, the immediate stereotype is that they must be good at math or rich if they are studying in that country. Indians are typically seen as "hardworkers". These are unknown biases that have taken route since a child because of our upbringings and our society. So, if tomorrow, we were told to only hire Indians, we probably wouldn't even blink twice. But years later we might realize our inherent bias and the wrongness of this move.


I'm not saying that the common man is innocent or that these heinous crimes should be forgotten. But everyone needs to understand there is no white and black when it comes to such crimes. There is only grey. Yes those at the very top are definitely criminals, but how do we know that every Muslim who partook in these crimes is 100% black? Is it not possible that their circumstances, their society, their beliefs, and the teachings from above turned them that way? Many Nazi soldiers, after WWII was over, realized their wrong. Heck some even realized it during the Holocaust. How do you think slaves escaped? Because some White people realized how wrong it was. There aren't 2 buckets to group people in. It's more like a trench with flimsy doors that can be opened if people try.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Minionite


No what she did was tell it how it was. Germans (Nazis) did not see it as a holocaust. They saw it as nationalism. They saw it is if they were getting rid of "traitors". Only after WWII did Germans realize what it really was.


Forget Germany. What do you think happened with the Aboriginals/First Nations in Western countries? Residential schools? The Church and Western countries (mine included) saw it is necessary to teach the "barbaric" First Nations the way of the West. They didn't see it as anything wrong. It's only years later (in fact in the past 20ish years) that they've begun to realize how wrong it was and are doing things to fix it. This is happening now. Literally happening now.


Look at any time in history and I'm sure you'll find such examples. Rwanda genocide. The apartheid. Slavery. Colonialism. So many examples. The countries or people behind these heinous crimes never thought they were wrong. They thought they were doing the right thing. They believed in the cause. The common man part of these heinous crimes was brainwashed, propagated, and politicized until they believed in the cause.


Those are big issues. Forget those and let's look at something smaller. Stereotypes. Unknown biases. For example, in Canada, US, Europe, when you see a Chinese, the immediate stereotype is that they must be good at math or rich if they are studying in that country. Indians are typically seen as "hardworkers". These are unknown biases that have taken route since a child because of our upbringings and our society. So, if tomorrow, we were told to only hire Indians, we probably wouldn't even blink twice. But years later we might realize our inherent bias and the wrongness of this move.


I'm not saying that the common man is innocent or that these heinous crimes should be forgotten. But everyone needs to understand there is no white and black when it comes to such crimes. There is only grey. Yes those at the very top are definitely criminals, but how do we know that every Muslim who partook in these crimes is 100% black? Is it not possible that their circumstances, their society, their beliefs, and the teachings from above turned them that way? Many Nazi soldiers, after WWII was over, realized their wrong. Heck some even realized it during the Holocaust. How do you think slaves escaped? Because some White people realized how wrong it was. There aren't 2 buckets to group people in. It's more like a trench with flimsy doors that can be opened if people try.


How do I give a million likes to this post!!!!!!!❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
#48

My comment was deleted? Fine I have no issues with that..just wanted to highlight how one sided narratives propagate

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: niyati13

Senior journalist Barkha Dutt gained prominence after her frontline war reporting on the Kargil war. She also did a live commentary during the ‘secret’ Tiger Hill operation.

Many argued that her live telecast during the counter terror operations was completely irresponsible as it only seemed to help the terrorists and their handlers. She is accused to have caused casualties on the Indian side as she gave away military locations in her broadcast.

A book titled “Kargil: Turning the Tide” written by Lt Gen Mohinder Puri( Indian Army Genral at that time) talked about Barkha Dutt’s reporting in Kargil war.

He mentioned that after the war he invited Barkha Dutt to his office and admired her for the professionalism she showed while reporting in the war. He then politely told her that she might have unintentionally shared Army’s plan with enemy by saying that “our next target is Tiger Hill”. This, however, does not prove that Barkha’s reporting caused casualties on the Indian side.


Source

https://www.udayavani.com/english-news/kargil-war-1999-the-impact-of-media-coverage-during-the-conflict

Do these people have no conscience?! It doesn't even matter if she's left or right, how come the country doesn't come first for such people?!

Sick sick sick. Never had any respect for her, now even more so.

Edited by Ashley.Tisdale - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Do these people have no conscience?! It doesn't even matter if she's left or right, how come the country doesn't come first for such people?!

Sick sick sick. Never had any respect for her, now even more so.


People defend it in the name of real time journalism and apologists say she just got carried away in her enthusiasm

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