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Posted: 5 years ago
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From the article.

"... Meanwhile, Dr. Gupta has clarified as to why he changed his 'murder' stand to 'suicide' in Sushant Singh Rajput's death case. While speaking to India Today, he said:

"Yes, everyone doubted when CBI started with its investigation. We investigated all doubts and then came with this opinion. Now, there should be no doubts. It was a seven member team of doctors who came to this conclusion that SSR dies by suicide. .."


If so, let him clearly state how exactly each of his concern was addressed. Doubts raised by him before

  • "I will have a look at the report and also the loopholes in the autopsy report. Firstly, why was the autopsy done in such a hurry? Then, was any videography done?"

No does he think autopsy was done in leisure or does he understand why it was done in hurry? Did he get the video of the body?

  • "The crime scene was not kept intact. We cannot call it destruction. So, it has been contaminated and is not suitable for further examination with sanctity."

Did the contaminated scene get purified that they could declare it was suicide?

  • Why did they not mention the time of death? The criteria are...He was declared dead in the flat only. He was taken directly to the mortuary, not in an emergency. So how did they presume, he is dead, that requires an emergency medical revival situation. So it was that it's death at that time...After that, the timing of doing the autopsy is fixed."

Did AIIM got the report from Cooper which mentioned death. Did the Cooper hospital mention that he was declared dead by any doctor in the flat (with the time of death)? Hence they sent the body to mortuary?


Please give an explanation.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p

From the article.

"... Meanwhile, Dr. Gupta has clarified as to why he changed his 'murder' stand to 'suicide' in Sushant Singh Rajput's death case. While speaking to India Today, he said:

"Yes, everyone doubted when CBI started with its investigation. We investigated all doubts and then came with this opinion. Now, there should be no doubts. It was a seven member team of doctors who came to this conclusion that SSR dies by suicide. .."


If so, let him clearly state how exactly each of his concern was addressed. Doubts raised by him before

  • "I will have a look at the report and also the loopholes in the autopsy report. Firstly, why was the autopsy done in such a hurry? Then, was any videography done?"

No does he think autopsy was done in leisure or does he understand why it was done in hurry? Did he get the video of the body?

  • "The crime scene was not kept intact. We cannot call it destruction. So, it has been contaminated and is not suitable for further examination with sanctity."

Did the contaminated scene get purified that they could declare it was suicide?

  • Why did they not mention the time of death? The criteria are...He was declared dead in the flat only. He was taken directly to the mortuary, not in an emergency. So how did they presume, he is dead, that requires an emergency medical revival situation. So it was that it's death at that time...After that, the timing of doing the autopsy is fixed."

Did AIIM got the report from Cooper which mentioned death. Did the Cooper hospital mention that he was declared dead by any doctor in the flat (with the time of death)? Hence they sent the body to mortuary?


Please give an explanation.


Are you addressing these questions to the forensic surgeons who would've studied the pathology reports?


Because these questions don't fall within the realm of their responsibility.


Their job was to determine, from the limited information available, the cause and manner of death. Which they did.


Questions about crime scene and hurried autopsy and incomplete report from the 1st hosp., etc. are the cops' responsibility.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Are you addressing these questions to the forensic surgeons who would've studied the pathology reports?

Because these questions don't fall within the realm of their responsibility.

Their job was to determine, from the limited information available, the cause and manner of death. Which they did.

Questions about crime scene and hurried autopsy and incomplete report from the 1st hosp., etc. are the cops' responsibility.

If their knowledge is limited, can they declare it as 100% suicide?

I did not see Salman running the car. So I can declare that the people who slept on pavement committed suicide?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p

If their knowledge is limited, can they declare it as 100% suicide?

I did not see Salman running the car. So I can declare that the people who slept on pavement committed suicide?


With the information they have, they can give their assessment of the situation. It doesn't matter whether you like it. If the photos of the corpse indicate hanging by suicide, if the injuries described in original report correlate, then the conclusion will be suicide.


Cause and manner of death are all the surgeons will give you. The questions you asked are not for them to answer. That's the CBI's job.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p

From the article.

"... Meanwhile, Dr. Gupta has clarified as to why he changed his 'murder' stand to 'suicide' in Sushant Singh Rajput's death case. While speaking to India Today, he said:

"Yes, everyone doubted when CBI started with its investigation. We investigated all doubts and then came with this opinion. Now, there should be no doubts. It was a seven member team of doctors who came to this conclusion that SSR dies by suicide. .."


If so, let him clearly state how exactly each of his concern was addressed. Doubts raised by him before

  • "I will have a look at the report and also the loopholes in the autopsy report. Firstly, why was the autopsy done in such a hurry? Then, was any videography done?"

No does he think autopsy was done in leisure or does he understand why it was done in hurry? Did he get the video of the body?

  • "The crime scene was not kept intact. We cannot call it destruction. So, it has been contaminated and is not suitable for further examination with sanctity."

Did the contaminated scene get purified that they could declare it was suicide?

  • Why did they not mention the time of death? The criteria are...He was declared dead in the flat only. He was taken directly to the mortuary, not in an emergency. So how did they presume, he is dead, that requires an emergency medical revival situation. So it was that it's death at that time...After that, the timing of doing the autopsy is fixed."

Did AIIM got the report from Cooper which mentioned death. Did the Cooper hospital mention that he was declared dead by any doctor in the flat (with the time of death)? Hence they sent the body to mortuary?


Please give an explanation.

So they didn't take Sushant's body in an emergency ? directly took him to morgue? And still they will say there was no foul play?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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For people insisting AIIMS cannot possibly call it suicide due to lack of evidence, this is how it works:


Cause of death

(Sometimes) mechanism of death

Manner of death which may be natural, accident, suicide, homicide, and undetermined.


If AIIMS said suicide, it wasn't because they didn't have evidence it was not a murder. It was because there was physical evidence (limited to photographs and reports) to indicate suicide.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Also, there is a doctor vs lawyer joke that seems appropriate seeing some of the posts here about the dead body being taken straight to the morgue.


* Lawyer: "Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?"

* Witness: "No."

* Lawyer: "Did you check for blood pressure?"

* Witness: "No."

* Lawyer: "Did you check for breathing?"

* Witness: "No."

* Lawyer: "So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?"

* Witness: "No."

* Lawyer: "How can you be so sure, Doctor?"

* Witness: "Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar."

* Lawyer: "But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?"

* Witness: "Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere."

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: aaditi123


Has the AIIM's team of top forensic experts revealed how they reached their conclusion? There's tons of ways these experts can reach a conclusive opinion. The Pseudo-Scientists of the IT Cells should hold their horses.

And if the Bhakts were Convinced that no conclusive report can be reached with the minimal amount of evidence available, why the hell were they crying for AIIMS to jump in, in the first place for over a month? 🤣

I don't know how they managed to turn this whole thing into a mystery when it never was. Suicides are usually declared very quickly so there was nothing shocking in that. When Lisa Marie Presley's son committed suicide, it was declared within hours. What is this insistence that you have to wait months for it and the home should be sealed for ages? WTF?

Sushant had no injuries and struggle marks - it means there was no fight with anyone. They have CCTV footage from outside the building so they know if anyone entered the building or not. They would also have forensic reports to know if there were any drugs running through his system that day.

These people really think it's more logical for people to have gotten into the building without notice by the cameras. Then they got past his cook or whoever else was in his apartment. Then they used a stun gun to disable him and carried a heavy tall man and made him hang on the fan to make it look like a suicide.

What would be the motive? Everyone was jealous of him so BW had him killed off so he doesn't take their place. Or the Shiv Sena wanted to steal his COVID patent which he developed while simultaneously being drugged by Rhea 24/7.

Can they not see how ridiculous they sound?

Edited by rkisnothot - 5 years ago

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