Shivagami or Devasena - Page 4

Who are these people? What am I missing?

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

She had her son killed. That was no "mistake". It was a crime. There's a vast difference between normal human mistakes and crimes.

Shivagami sacrificing her life to save baby Mahendra and seeking forgiveness from Devasena was the least she could do, after taking the life of Devasena's husband and Mahendra's father. No, I don't think she redeemed herself. Her crime was too great for anything to redeem it. She had the life of an innocent man taken for purely selfish purposes, and even though she later regretted it, it was too late to do anything. Killing is the sort of crime where no one can redeem themselves. They can only atone for it for many lives afterwards. So I don't consider Shivagami's later actions "great" or "sacrificial". It was merely the first step in her long journey of atonement for her sins, and she knew it.

I do think Shivagami was one of the best written characters of the franchise simply because she had so many shades, but by no means do I consider her "great". Her later crimes were simply too great to overlook. Neither she nor Katappa can ever do anything that would redeem themselves, as both of them became murderers of an innocent man.

The best female character is thus Devasena. She was truly the consummate woman with both a strong character and true moral backing. Even after 25 years of imprisonment, her sense of justice never wavered.

I agree with this btw. That's also why I think Shivagami should have survived at the time and should have died a bit later after grooming Mahendra. That would have been her prayaschit.

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

As much as I love the movies, I also agree with both points. I think it would have been so interesting to see Shivagami surviving Bhalla's attack and raising Mahendra herself as a trained warrior. They could have even kept this a secret from us viewers, revealing it in the end as part of the suspense for us viewers.

While I think Devasena joining her brother's revel group would have been interesting to watch, I think they kept her imprisoned in Mahishmati to show the obsessive relationship she had with Bhalla. Moreover, I don't think it would have been easy for Katappa to take her out of Mahishmati, though he said he would. Bhalla kept her in clear view in the middle of the courtyard. The guards would have seen him taking Devasena out, and it would have resulted in the death of Katappa and even harsher punishment for Devasena. So her imprisonment in Mahishmati makes more sense story-wise than her escaping and joining her brother's rebel group.

During the chaos on the day Bhallala killed Shivagami, I think it was possible for Devasena to escape if they had chosen that direction. With Devasena, it is logical that Bhallala captured her for life, but the downgrading of her character from a phenomenal warrior to a Rakhee-esque mother in Karan Arjun was such a depressing piece of writing.

^ I agree with both of you Kareenafanatic and Janaki, writing wise if they had gone the route of Devasena escaping and joining her brother it would've been better storytelling but ALAS it is a man's world after all and they had to insert Shivudu having a purpose as well so the female characters development had to suffer.

I don't understand how people are blaming Devasena for the atrocities that the kingdom suffered it was Bhallaldev who lusted after her, he tortured her and kept her captive for all those years- how is it HER fault that the jackass was obsessed with her? 😕And why should she have fought for Mahishmati? Shivagami and the other royals are all shocked that she dared to go against her by marrying Baahubali, she was shunned from the kingdom for standing up for justice for the women, she was taunted and her husband was insulted at her own baby shower, why the hell should she have fought for such a kingdom? 😡She was even brought as a "prisoner" on Shivagami's orders, Devasena owed nothing to the kingdom yet her love for Baahubali kept her there and help the village folk. She chose to sacrifice herself for her infant son, she could've easily been killed by Bhallaldev, I mean the arrogant fool didn't even hesitate in killing his mother and sending goons after her. Devasena could've easily been killed as well, her sacrifice for Mahendra is just as valid as Shivagami's for him. Being the psycho that he was Bhallal would've easily forced her to marry him as well, it's all Bhallal's fault that the whole kingdom went crazy not Devasena.

I would've loved to see Bhallal's side a bit more as well explaining of why he kept her alive, he clearly lusted after her, but why keep her alive if she clearly didn't give two hoots about him.

Shivagami...without her the movies won't be same..But I can see it working without Devsena as the first part did

Devsena was strong and bold but Shivagami was more fiercy and have taken more harsh decisions

Originally posted by: ZadayKiDaig

Who are these people? What am I missing?

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

During the chaos on the day Bhallala killed Shivagami, I think it was possible for Devasena to escape if they had chosen that direction. With Devasena, it is logical that Bhallala captured her for life, but the downgrading of her character from a phenomenal warrior to a Rakhee-esque mother in Karan Arjun was such a depressing piece of writing.

Originally posted by: rockrahul

Shivagami...without her the movies won't be same..But I can see it working without Devsena as the first part did

For me its shivakami may b bcoz of The actress she was soo good like so so good!
Shivkami was d sole attraction for me in Bb1 n in bb2 i actually liked kattappa devsena n ballaladeva bt d opening scene itself i was sold i mean d fb's where she was going to light d fire n d way she walked mann<3<3

Sivagami was certainly an enigmatic woman, and Ramya Krishnan played her to perfection. However, I did mourn the loss of her wit and intelligence that she had in abundance in the first movie. As someone mentioned, the writing of her manipulation and turning negative in such short time wasn't convincing. It could've been done better. In fact, I'd have preferred Bhalla and Bijjala to have had more of a role in Amarendra's death than Sivagami and Katappa, as to me it didn't make sense. It didn't convince me that two people who loved him so deeply could kill him so simply, as if he meant nothing to them. Sivagami's sudden change of heart and the way she ordered Katappa "you must kill Bahubali" didn't convince me at all.