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Posted: 10 years ago
#51
Accidental post again. Sorry.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Finally..someone I can agree completely with 👍🏼👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: aamir18

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I'm not talking about lawsuits, TV or newspapers. It's common sense that murder and illegal activities will make headlines while a three minute Youtube video won't. </font>


[DIV]<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I'm talking about the public reaction of everyday, regular people who took a moment to watch this.</font>

[DIV]<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">For all I'm concerned, Salman Khan's films make the most of any Bollywood actor in the industry. We idolize him and literally regard him as our brother. He stands as a role model for young children nationwide.

Meanwhile, ~95% of the comments on YouTube were quick to label Deepika Padukone -- who is at least using her voice for positive change -- as a s**t, a wh**e, a prostitute and a cheat.

Those words are a reflection of Indian thought -- and a disappointing one, at that.

You're free to think whatever you want.I'll continue to do the same



What logic is this?

Films making money have nothing to do with justifications of an actor's actions.

Khans get worst name calling as well. You notice comments only on DP?

Salman is not every young kid's role model. If some admire his style or body building or charity, it doesn't mean they are okay with everything else he does. Few aspects are admired. And that's for everyone. It is not like Deepika has lost everything!
You forgot the flop phase Salman had after his controversies. Try as much as you want, to make it a sexism issue but it is NOT one.

Everyday regular people react same way to everyone. Deepika is not a special victim here.

And STOP generalising Indian thought based on YT comments. 🤢

Don't generalise an entire populace just to defend your fav heroine!

Nandita is also doing activism but if she said something wrong, she will be criticised for it. Trying to do something good or whatever doesn't mean one can never be criticised.

Filmi fans bring weird logic to forever defend celebs. Don't criticise Salman because of Being Human, don't criticise Aamir even on his comments on AIB or dog blog because he does SMJ and now don't criticise Deepika because she did a woman empowerment video!

Proves again how social causes are being used both for publicity and as shield against any criticism, by these celebs.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: atominis



What logic is this?

Films making money have nothing to do with justifications of an actor's actions.

~ Films making money have A LOT to do with actors and who the general public idolizes. Why do you think films like American Hustle and Happy New Year make so much money at the box office? Because people like people like Bradley Cooper, Jennifer Lawrence and Shah Rukh Khan. The fact that a murderer is making the biggest bucks in Bollywood is kind of sad. At least in my eyes. But hey... to each their own.

Khans get worst name calling as well. You notice comments only on DP?
~ They may get name called, fine. But are 90-95% of comments about a positive action they take negative and criticizing? I don't remember Being Human and SMJ getting this level of hate and retaliation? Were the criticisms consistently targeting their gender as well?

Salman is not every young kid's role model. If some admire his style or body building or charity, it doesn't mean they are okay with everything else he does. Few aspects are admired. And that's for everyone. It is not like Deepika has lost everything!
You forgot the flop phase Salman had after his controversies. Try as much as you want, to make it a sexism issue but it is NOT one.
~ I refuse to believe that a man our country regard as "bhai" is not being handed a pedestal to be a role model for our country. Sorry.

Everyday regular people react same way to everyone. Deepika is not a special victim here.
~ I don't know about Deepika being a special victim, but I sure as hell was treated like shit on those YT comments. If you don't think YT comments there are sexist, I don't have much to say to you.

And STOP generalising Indian thought based on YT comments. 🤢
~ It's hard not to and no reason why I shouldn't. Those comments are written by real, everyday educated Indian people. Those are women's colleagues, husbands and acquaintances. They represent our country and our mindset.

Don't generalise an entire populace just to defend your fav heroine!
~ If you took a moment to actually read my post, you'd see that I'm not even a fan of Deepika Padukone. i think she's a mediocre actress in the least. Fave heroine is Waheeda Rehman, thank you very much.

Nandita is also doing activism but if she said something wrong, she will be criticised for it. Trying to do something good or whatever doesn't mean one can never be criticised.

Filmi fans bring weird logic to forever defend celebs. Don't criticise Salman because of Being Human, don't criticise Aamir even on his comments on AIB or dog blog because he does SMJ and now don't criticise Deepika because she did a woman empowerment video!

Proves again how social causes are being used both for publicity and as shield against any criticism, by these celebs.
~ I'm not against criticism. Even I had several criticisms against the video. I thought it could have been better thought through and could have covered more grievances against Indian women. What I'm against is this disgusting way of labeling, targeting and insulting women solely because of their gender. It's not just Deepika Padukone. It's womanhood.

Again, you're free to think whatever you want. My thoughts aren't targeted at a lone celebrity. She's nothing more than a fleck in a sea of humanity. I admire her message and am deeply saddened by how much negativity it spewed. That's it.

Edited by aamir18 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55
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Loved your post! I wish people would get past Deepika's face/voice and actually listen to the bloody message of the video 😳 There's 98 other women there. Why not focus on them instead? Do we really give celebrities so much importance that they define how we perceive public service announcements?
Edited by OnlySaRunFan - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I wud rather watch Govinda's "meri marjee" song for its lyrics 😆 all over again.
Life is not all abt 'my choice". Its abt right choice or wrong choice... but more imp. the best choice available to us.

Why I gave rapists example is if we go by just "my choice", the society is in danger. From young age till we die, "my choice" has always been influenced. encouraged, denied, punished, rewarded... by the loved ones to society to the laws and order.

If a "video" says "my (blunt, iresponsible) choice" is the way to liberation orwomen empowerment or feminism or whatever "social" relevance it has to to deliver... then sorry, we cant and shudnt buy it.

We have seen funny versions of how men wud react to it in no time😆. Why dont we make we make a video on kids saying "my choice"? 😕

It was a video to create controversy for sure.. thats a kinda best publicity now. It got what it wanted.

"my choice" was to go to "Easter's show" today but the family wanted to go to "Rainbow's end". So I m kewl with it. Thats how my choice becomes our choice.

No brainer. 😛




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Posted: 10 years ago
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I encourage you to reread my post because I don't think you got the point of it.

Also, it's a bit foolish to compare the choices of young children (who are not mature enough to make their decisions and therefore need parenting) with the choices of fully grown, mature, adult women.

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

I wud rather watch Govinda's "meri marjee" song for its lyrics 😆 all over again.

Life is not all abt 'my choice". Its abt right choice or wrong choice... but more imp. the best choice available to us.

Why I gave rapists example is if we go by just "my choice", the society is in danger. From young age till we die, "my choice" has always been influenced. encouraged, denied, punished, rewarded... by the loved ones to society to the laws and order.

If a "video" says "my (blunt, iresponsible) choice" is the way to liberation orwomen empowerment or feminism or whatever "social" relevance it has to to deliver... then sorry, we cant and shudnt buy it.

We have seen funny versions of how men wud react to it in no time😆. Why dont we make we make a video on kids saying "my choice"? 😕

It was a video to create controversy for sure.. thats a kinda best publicity now. It got what it wanted.

"my choice" was to go to "Easter's show" today but the family wanted to go to "Rainbow's end". So I m kewl with it. Thats how my choice becomes our choice.

No brainer. 😛




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Posted: 10 years ago
#58
Aamir

Deny as much as you will.

You are selective in paying attention if you didn't see the controversies generated by SMJ.

If you ignored Salman's flop phase till Wanted.

If you take comments on DP as comments on womanhood and not normal criticism. Never seen people cry on comments on manhood if a man is criticised! Talk of selectively playing sexism card!

Stars making money has NOTHING to do with opinions on their lifestyle. Hema was the top heroine. Does it mean people justified or excused her choices?
Almost every top star has questionable behaviour and controversy attached to him or her. It doesn't imply their deeds are excused or justified. People watch films for fictional persona.

This Monica Bedi is a criminal but is winning all awards for her role in Saraswatichandra. What will you make of it then?

Commenters on YT do not represent whole India. I don't know about your criteria but I would never judge a country based on mere YT comments! I don't know who seriously judges a whole country based on YT comments of all things! 😲

Sorry but this is ridiculous defense.

And don't think you can defend a poorly made video by trashing a country.

As I wrote in a previous post, such a video would get response like this no matter which group made it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aamir18

I encourage you to reread my post because I don't think you got the point of it.

Also, it's a bit foolish to compare the choices of young children (who are not mature enough to make their decisions and therefore need parenting) with the choices of fully grown, mature, adult women.


I m not arguing with any1 here... I had enuff of this debate of a "video".

Why not kids... they always have their choices and reduce our choices big time. 😆

My choice is to leave this debate until something new comes up. 🥱
Edited by AllBlacks1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't think you're getting my point.

I don't give a flying shit about celebrities. They're flecks in a sea of humanity.

I don't care to know about celebrities and the controversies surrounding their films and projects.

What I see, as an outsider, is a hell of a lot of attacks for a woman who wanted to do good. More hate than I ever saw for a man who tried to make positive change or even a man who murdered someone.

And by your own logic, having a flop career isn't proof of public out lash against you. Aamir Khan is one of the most talented actors in our industry and he had a flop decade solely because of the films he chose to do. And as someone totally indifferent about Bollywood, I have only heard excessive praises regarding SMJ. If that makes me selective, then fine. I don't go out to read the daily dish on these actor's lives. I couldn't care less.

Deepika Paduokone means almost nothing to me. I care about the real women in my life, like me and my sister and my mother, being labelled and targeted just because of their sex.

If you don't think that happens, you must live a very comfortable and entitled life. Good for you.

Trust me, I'm the last person you should worry about generalizing about India. There has to be some reason bigger than YT comments as to why we're labeled as a misogynistic rape capital around the entire world.

Thanks for exercising your choice and leaving the debate

Originally posted by: atominis

Aamir

Deny as much as you will.

You are selective in paying attention if you didn't see the controversies generated by SMJ.

If you ignored Salman's flop phase till Wanted.

If you take comments on DP as comments on womanhood and not normal criticism. Never seen people cry on comments on manhood if a man is criticised! Talk of selectively playing sexism card!

Stars making money has NOTHING to do with opinions on their lifestyle. Hema was the top heroine. Does it mean people justified or excused her choices?
Almost every top star has questionable behaviour and controversy attached to him or her. It doesn't imply their deeds are excused or justified. People watch films for fictional persona.

This Monica Bedi is a criminal but is winning all awards for her role in Saraswatichandra. What will you make of it then?

Commenters on YT do not represent whole India. I don't know about your criteria but I would never judge a country based on mere YT comments! I don't know who seriously judges a whole country based on YT comments of all things! 😲

Sorry but this is ridiculous defense.

And don't think you can defend a poorly made video by trashing a country.

As I wrote in a previous post, such a video would get response like this no matter which group made it.

Edited by aamir18 - 10 years ago

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