What is pseudo feminism? My view.

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krackjack

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

@ bold ...

Feminism is a tricky concept & i have had more than my share of debate in this context 😆 (some people here can vouch for it actually 😆 ).. Every feminist has his/her own definition of feminism which may or may not be in total sync with the technical definition of feminism.. when you say that "most people have no idea about what feminism *actually* means" does that mean that your understanding of feminism is the most legit one ?.. its debatable & subjective but it certainly cant be categorized under "facts" ..

In fact the modern feminism is soo twisted that i have entirely lost my faith in this concept irrespective of whether its psuedo feminism or otherwise.. i think this concept is itself murky & outdated & is enough to turn women into crazy irrational evil opportunistic beings..I am an Equalist because that makes more sense to me..

@bold : The irony. This thread itself has been made to point out the unfair generalisations. Isn't this statement doing the same?

Feminism isn't an outdated concept. The negative tone in which the term is mentioned needs to be changed. I have often noticed people using the term itself in a sarcastic tone, now that idea is something which should be altered not the concept itself.

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Mallika-E-Bhais

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

@Krackjack: 👍🏼

I didn't want to get into this because I've often got into arguments with people, but it is this negativity around Feminism, that needs to vanish.

And yes- That statement is contradictory. 😆😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: krackjack

@bold : The irony. This thread itself has been made to point out the unfair generalisations. Isn't this statement doing the same?

Feminism isn't an outdated concept. The negative tone in which the term is mentioned needs to be changed. I have often noticed people using the term itself in a sarcastic tone, now that idea is something which should be altered not the concept itself.

yes i do believe that some feminists have their heart in the right place but i just dont see any reason to support this concept which in modern times due to its multiple interpretations does more harm than good & is now murkier than ever ,especially when there is something like "Equalism" which serves the very same purpose & has its heart, intentions & purposes in the right place..i supported feminism when it served its basic purpose - but now times have changed , i dont see what significance feminism holds now other than turning women into irrational beings , & so i feel that it is indeed an outdated concept...hence i am out n out Equalist , & if that is a biased generalization according to feminists then so be it but i know what i am talking about & no this is not equivalent to 'all Muslims are terrorists" sort of generalization. but hey we each have our own philosophies to get by in life .. to each his own..

@ red.. the 'idea' is not without a reason either.. i think you yourself brought up an apt example of women misusing feminism (pseudo feminism or whatever)..i dont understand why women feel offended everytime someone brings forth the ugly face of feminism.. and i dont understand why women feel the desperate need to hold onto this outdated concept when there is a much saner option like Equalism available..equalism too can fight the same evils that feminism seeks to fight without the possibility of turning women into evil victims..

P.S. i am back to discussing feminism all over again , i have already done that in debate mansion forum..not willing to partake the discussion here as well..

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Angel-likeDevil

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Oh my feminism is such HOT topic 😛

Quixotic --- All the best with the discussion, my blessings with you :)

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil
Oh my feminism is such HOT topic 😛

Quixotic --- All the best with the discussion, my blessings with you :)

😆

😆 😆 .. God ! why does feminism follow me everywhere i go ?.. 😕 😆.. oh well i should have known better .. 😆

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krackjack

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

See, I'm not well versed in any of the topics discussed here. Either 'Equality' or 'Feminism'. The very reason why I think 'Feminism' is not an outdated, negative or biased concept has a reason.

Lets take an example of the work/job sphere. Equality ensures equal opportunities to both men and women, right? Ensuring that no discrimination happens during hiring process and similar stuff

(I'm just picking up one aspect)

The 'Equality' factor is fulfilled if the above happens, at least in the job sphere. What goes unnoticed is, in a patriarchal society like ours where a woman does the household chores, (and I personally don't think it's regressive or something if a person wants to cook for the family or keep her house clean) the chores she does drastically reduces the expenditure of a household and its not a small contribution in my opinion.

And a concept like feminism could only address and acknowledge this fact and highlight the contribution of a woman, a homemaker in particular, in an economy, which otherwise goes unnoticed.

I repeat, I don't know if such political and economic factors are included in feminism but if they are not, they should be. 'Equality' as a concept is insanely broad and if one is dwelling deeper into it and branching it, its not a bad thing.

You might say, I'm veering away from the topic but when I saw that negative tone and a discussion only regarding the 'Ugly side of feminism', narrowing down the whole concept , I thought it was necessary to bring it forward. Moreover Feminism is as broad as Equality as a concept and I couldn't help 😆

P.S. Nobody here is fighting, we are just discussing ideas and if its tiring and exhausting for you, I'll happily agree to disagree. 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago

#27

@ Krackjack.. I get your POV...and may be I should have been more sensitive than just blandly put forth my views regarding feminism like that..

In the example you mentioned, why you feel like Equalism will fail to give women their share of importance is beyond me when in fact that is exactly what equalism seeks to do in the first place..a "fem" prefix is not a necessity in this case to serve the cause..but again, to each his own..most women get paranoid when feminism starts to loose its importance & I respect women who are capable of thinking without such gender hangups..these are the women who can see Equalism for what it is.. if you feel like it,you can participate in the discussion at Debate Mansion Forum but then again, no point , as I was the only one who was pro-equalism , rest all are pro-feminists & I no longer participate in the discussions there..

Yes, let's just agree to disagree..

Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Well, people just hate women, that's why they make fun of the term feminism. No need to make excuses. Many do. Though, there are many feminists in U.S who actually work for elites than women, They destroy families, children's lives, do injustice to men, etc instead. They have just hijacked feminist movement. I do have big problem with them.

But Feminism should be in India, M.E, so some misogynists and brainwashed men, who believe women are less, get through their thick heads. However, we should be care it doesn't get hijacked. Anyway, Humanity is great. For all. Men, women, children, animals. etc.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#29

So if I am an Equalist & not a Feminist , i am 'misogynist making excuses'.. 🤔 .. fair enough , thats a classic Feminist logic i must say .. ⭐️.. great ! so anybody who is not a feminist is a woman-hater ! 👏

Edited by Quixotic5 - 10 years ago

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krackjack

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Posted: 10 years ago

#30

I told you, I'm not so well versed in these ideologies. As you might have already seen, I have my own definitions which might not even fit the conventional definition of Feminism. 😆

All I want to say is Feminism in itself isn't a negative or outdated concept. Its as good and positive as 'Equality'.

I have never argued over something serious over on an online platform per se...this is new to me. 😆

But it seems we all agree to the fact the radical opinions defeat the purpose of feminism.

Edited by krackjack - 10 years ago