Why is Chennai Express not labelled an All Time Blockbuster? - Page 17

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pathaka

i knew abt HAHK... i remember when i was a kid...my family alone watched it like 10 times so i can imagine how popular it was...😆


then I remember DDLJ also being very popular...

but i dunt remember as much abt gadar being a craze which is strange coz its a more modern movie than the former 2...i guess i was too much into Lagaan at that time...my family didnt actually watch gadar...i watched it much later on TV...

plus, it could also be the case tht majority of gadar's viewership came from the North and since i was in south india, maybe i didnt experience that craze down here because sunny deol was never really that huge where i lived...it was always abt the khans and later, hrithik/ranbir...

3 Idiots was a huge craze down the south though...especially with students and youngsters...that was all ppl talked abt in colleges, hostels and parties for like a month...


I think there are a couple reasons why DDLJ/HAHK are spoken about more than Gadar today. Even Lagaan is remembered much more than Gadar.

One is obviously they are publicized more because they were backed by bigger PH's, bigger folks in the business...plus they star actors who are still VERY relevant today.. Sunny Deol...well post Gadar, I don't think he has been that popular.
Then DDLJ, HAHK are still aped to this day..whereas Gadar isn't really. Like Anupama was saying a little while back...the two biggest hits of the year are both DDLJ derivatives. YJHD had HAHK in it too ...so those films have stayed fresher in people's minds...and perhaps stood the test of time more.
But yeah what Gadar did was unbelievable. Its not a bad film but nothing great either...a little too jingoistic for me.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Bossman



Yes, Gadar and HAHK both suffer from lack of media hype that 3 Idiots and DDLJ have gotten throughout the years. If you ask a random person which is the biggest hit of the 90's and 00's, they're most likely to say DDLJ and 3 Idiots. Blame it on the media. HAHK was the biggest hit of the 90's and Gadar of the 00's.

The Biggest Blockbusters Ever In Hindi Cinema

There are a few ways to decide the biggest hits ever in Hindi cinema. If we go to go by cost to earnings it is very clear cut and Jai Santoshi Maa (1975) is by far the biggest blockbuster ever. Jai Santoshi Maa (1975) was made on a 4-5 lakhs budget and collected a distributor share of 5 crore which is 100 times its costs. Next on the list would be Maine Pyaar Kiya (1989) which returned around 15 times its cost but even that is still way below the returns of Jai Santoshi Maa. But the real mega blockbusters we believe are decided by the volume of public watching them in a particular era. Jai Santoshi Maa would not have been an All Time Blockbuster if it was a big budget film of that time while Maine Pyaar Kiya would have just about made it. There are seven films in the history of Hindi cinema till date (2010) which stand above the others. What these films did is smash barriers by a distance. If a huge blockbuster of their times were expected to hit a certain level, then what these films did was go much much higher than that level. They all practically went twice as high. The seven films are easy to pick out but the order after Sholay is debatable but the following list is how we see it to be.

1. SHOLAY (1975) - Simply the most watched and loved film of Hindi cinema by a distance. Dominated theatres for 25 years with umpteen re-runs. Business in re-runs was on many occasions higher than newly released films of the time.

2. Mughal E Azam (1960) - Smashed all records when first released and the amazing re- run with its colour version (2004) gives it number two position.

3. Hum Aapke Hain Kaun (1994)/Gadar Ek Prem Katha (2001) - Tough to split the two, Hum Aapke Hain Kaun basically changed film business while Gadar is the most watched film of the modern era (post Hum Aapke Hain Kaun) . Basically these films are the biggest blockbusters of the modern era.

5. Mother India (1957) - The first film to smash records by a margin. Business is similar to Mughal E Azam but impact of that film in 2004 re-run gives it edge.

6. Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge (1995)/Three Idiots (2009) - Tough to split the two, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge was a huge follow up a year after Hum Aapke Hain Kaun and a 15 year (still going) run at one cinema in Mumbai. Three Idiots was the first true mega blockbuster since business became dominated by multiplexes. Another similarity between the two is that though they were the second biggest hits of their respective decades they were liked more by the classes than Hum Aapke Hain Kaun and Gadar so therefore have a better media perception than those legendary box office blockbusters.


These 7 FILMS rose above and beyond what the business of a regular film was in those times and did 5,6,7 times that. The top 5 are unbeatable, maybe a film will beat 6,7 one day.


@bold - I agree with it.
Sadly coz of the media hype around YRF films makes it look bigger than other films.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: blue-ice

The only reason tht SRK fans are rejoicing because of the mockery tht was made of him...otherwise we are used to the successes of the KING😉


I guess no one is sane here!!! Tali ek haath se nahin bajhti! Tum log Bajate Raho! Me am happy with my spamming!!!😆 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: blue-ice


WORD!!!👏👏
Besides all that you have written...in the last two years...when Shahrukh was being written off...Oh because his movies can't even cross RR...and SRK fans...used to say that SRK may not be giving BB's but he was the most consistent star...we were immediately told to not LOOK IN THE PAST...but to LOOK at the present...and now tht CE has been declared an ATBB...and has broken every possible record...suddenly people remember 20 year old movies...is it not amazing...and about the inflation and how huge 3 Idiots is...where did all the inflation go when not even an year back...two of Salman's movies...were on the verge of breaking 3Is records...I didn't see a single soul talking about Gadar and HAHK then...all we were listening to was ..ki 3Is ka record to gaya...gaya nahi who alag baat hai😉😆
Now that CE is such a huge grosser people are coming up with all the theories...where were these theories in the last 2 years...or have they been developed in the last two weeks😆
Anyways Kiran...we all know what CE has done...some people will never accept it...just be happy...there are still some people who believe tht Neil Armstrong didn't go on moon..but went to Nevada😆...With anything successful..there will be 10s of conspiracy theories...its up to u wat u choose to believe...and I believe tht CE ne sabki band Baja dee👏👏😆


Exactly my point BI. So much change all of the sudden? I still remember the arguments that happened when every time SRK's consistency argument was brought in. First, it was always about present or about 150 crores and now all of the sudden, past came into play.

Personally, I think CE was an okay movie. It was entertaining and I liked it but that's pretty much it. I'm just happy for SRK. He needed this success to shut everyone up. & Yes, I agree. The only reason most of SRK fans are rejoicing this success is because of all the shit they had to take in name of these records.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: J3SANGEL

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I guess no one is sane here!!! Tali ek haath se nahin bajhti! Tum log Bajate Raho! Me am happy with my spamming!!!😆 😆

No all SRK fans are sati savitri's of IF. While Salman fans are villains, hypocrites blah blah blah😕
Edited by Rambo.Rajkumar - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Anyways, I'm out of here. Got work tomorrow. Good Night/Day everyone!

@Rambo.rajkumar: I was waiting for you to point out the irrelevant info but I guess my thoughts are too delusional for you to analyze my post. It's okay. Have a great day ahead!:)

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..


Exactly my point BI. So much change all of the sudden? I still remember the arguments that happened when every time SRK's consistency argument was brought in. First, it was always about present or about 150 crores and now all of the sudden, past came into play.

Personally, I think CE was an okay movie. It was entertaining and I liked it but that's pretty much about it. I'm just happy for SRK. He needed this success to shut everyone up. & Yes, I agree. The only reason most of SRK fans are rejoicing this success is because of all the shit they had to take in name of these records.

And people who bring all the inflation and price hike and what not forget ver conveniently...that CE just had ONE WEEK of clear run...after that every single WEEK a movie has released...and the screens were reduced...ye sab thodi na yaad hai kissi ko...same thing happened with JTHJ...people used to forget tht JTHJ didn't even have ONE SINGLE DAY of clear run...like the other movies which had like a million weeks of free run😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ..Kirann..

Anyways, I'm out of here. Got work tomorrow. Good Night/Day everyone!


@Rambo.rajkumar: I was waiting for you to point out the irrelevant info but I guess my thoughts are too delusional for you to analyze my post. It's okay. Have a great day ahead!:)

I will when I get on Laptop mate. Using Tablet is pain for a post which needs to be dissected
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Posted: 12 years ago
BI forget about these points, I wasn't expecting any BO numbers arguments after CE crossed 150 crores since some people wanted him to cross 150 crores at least. But oh well, I should've known better!

P.S.: This is my last post in this thread. 😆 I'm out! See ya:)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Rambo.Rajkumar

I will when I get on Laptop mate. Using Tablet is pain for a post which needs to be dissected

😆

Try using my khatara fone and you will know pain

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