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Posted: 12 years ago
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SRK has broken several records. But yes not as much as some others and the reasons behind that is very clear when you compare him with those who has more records.

SRK has not done an out and out masala movie like dabangg, wanted or ready.

If he does an out and out masala movie like those movies mentioned then imagine how big it will be because his overseas success is already so big and if he appeals a lot to the indian audience in India then movie will break all records.

SRK takes risks and does not stick to one kind of movie, he does different stuff and that's admirable.

SRK has always said he does not care about numbers, that's not what is most important for him. Yes he wants his movies to do well and they do amazingly well but he is not desperate like others who want to just break records and nothing else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SatrangiRe


But CDI was past KANK...

Anyway interesting topic. I would also say that some of the fans are responsible for that too - go to planetsrk or srk.org and you would know what I mean! I love SRK to death, but I feel like hitting my head on the wall sometimes when I read those girls's posts. Some of SRK fans buys everything he produces and thinks that even the biggest crap is some kind of 8th World Wonder!
Also, I think SRK likes praises and he is scared of working with people who would dare to say "You acted bad in this scene!" or "Your script choice is bad!".
I'm looking forward to CE now, though it's not exactly my cup of tea. but there is a little hope in the bottom of my heart that this time it will be different, better SRK.
I've heard Deepa Mehta would like to work with SRK. Imagine if these two worked together. But Im sure that SRK would reject the offer and did some crap with KJo or Farah instead.

But I still love him & wait for the day he will impress me again. I still believe it will happen.



thank you. YES sometimes its the fans who do more damage than the stars themselves. i remember rooting for an actor and when i would post something negative, or don't agree with what they doing and stuff, fans would come down hard on me. its like, if you wanna be here, you better BLINDLY chant good about this actor. at times you are even disrespected as a member to protect these actors.

at the end , you have no choice but to show the middle finger and leave.

but for srk, i was very critical during kg3 and kank days. i am happy he did chak de, swades, and ra1.
i want him to do hatke films at the same time i don't mind seeing a chenai express. oh and lets hope CE breaks some records. it could.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Most successful actors in Bollywood – Since 2000 - SRK Leads

This is an analysis of the success ratio of the films in which Top 6 stars (presently) of India have appeared in since 2000. Only the films where these actors had a 'substantial' role where accounted for. Cameos and extended guest appearances were cut out to rule the results from being unfairly skewed. A film is deemed to be 'successful' only when a film attains the 'Hit' status as a minimum prerogative. Average, above-average & semi-hit movies are not classified as successful movies as the only criteria for success of a Big Star's movie is only when it earns a 'Hit' status for itself. Box office verdicts from BoxofficeIndia.com were used in this analysis because they are the only independent box-office tracking organisation in India without any prior allegiances to anyone in the industry. We are not judging the stardom of any of these actors and this article is only meant to give an indication of the profibility of the 6 most popular superstars over a fairly long period of time. The actors have been analyzed alphabetically.

Aamir Khan - Success ratio is 54.5%.

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  • Failures: Mela (flop), Dil Chahta Hai (only did 'average' business at the time), Mangal Pandey (below average), Dhobi Ghat (semi hit) and Talaash (semi hit). Total failures: 5.
  • Successes: Lagaan (hit), Fanaa (super hit), Rang De Basanti (hit), Taare Zameen Par (super hit), Ghajini (All time blockbuster) and 3 Idiots (All time blockbuster).Total successes: 6.
Aamir Khan has appeared in only 11 movies in these 13 years. Although he wasn't the lead in Dhobi Ghat, it has still been considered, as he himself has said that Dhobi Ghat was his last film, when he was promoting Talaash (also, he was in the film from start to finish and had a consequential part to play). I started writing this article with the impression that Aamir Khan would have the highest success ratio but a Hit % of 54.5% is a surprise. An even bigger surprise is that he is not the First but the Second most successful of our 6 Superstars (as I said, I was expecting Aamir Khan to easily occupy the first position).

Ajay Devgn: Success ratio is 14.8%

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  • Failures: Deewane (flop), Raju Chacha (flop), Yeh Raaste Hain Pyaar Ke (flop), Tera Mera Saath Rahen (flop), Company (below average), Hum Kisise Kum Nahin (flop), The Legend of Bhagat Singh (flop), Deewaangee (below average), Bhoot (average), Qayamat (semi hit), Chori Chori (flop), Gangaajal (above average), Parwana (flop), Zameen (flop), Khakee (average), Yuva (flop), Raincoat (flop), Insan (flop), Blackmail (flop), Zameer (flop), Tango Charlie (flop), Kaal (above average), Main Aisa Hi Hoon (flop), Apaharan (above average), Shikhar (flop), Golmaal (semi hit), Omkara (flop), Cash (flop), Ram Gopal Verma Ki Aag (flop), Halla Bol (flop), Sunday (below average), U Me Aur Hum (below average), Mehbooba (flop), All the Best (above average), London Dreams (flop), Atithi Tum Kab Jaoge (average), Aakrosh (flop), Dil Toh Baccha Hai Ji (below average), Rascals (flop), and Tezz (flop).
  • Successes: Golmaal Returns (hit), Raajneeti (blockbuster), Once Upon a Time in Mumbaai (hit), Golmaal 3 (blockbuster), Singham (super hit), Bol Bachchan (hit), and Son of Sardaar (hit).
Total Failures: 40 - Total Successes: 7
The fact that Ajay Devgn is now considered a Superstar even after such a dismal Hit %, speaks volumes of the turnaround that has happened in his career in the last 2-3 years. He was always known as an 'actor' more than a 'Superstar' because of his reserved personality, but all that has changed now thanks to his career choices. Hopefully, his present mass appeal will change his Hit percentage in the future.

Akshay Kumar: Success Ratio is 23.5%

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  • Failures: Hera Pheri (average), Dhadkan (average), Khiladi 420 (flop), Ek Rishtaa (below average), Ajnabee (average), Haan Maine Bhi Pyaar Kiya (flop), Aankhen (average), Awara Paagal Deewana (above average), Talaash (flop), Khakee (average), Police Force: An Inside Story (flop), Aan (flop), Meri Biwi Ka Jawaab Nahin (flop), Hatya: The Murder (flop), Aitraaz (average), Ab Tumhare Hawale Waton Saathiyon (flop), Insan (flop), Bewafaa (below average), Waqt (above average), Garam Masala (semi hit), Deewana Huye Paagal (flop), Dosti: Friends Forever (below average), Mere Jeevan Saathi (flop), Humko Deewana Kar Gaye (flop), Jaan-E-Mann (flop), Tashan (below average), Chandni Chowk to China (flop), 8 X 10 Tasveer (flop), Kambakkht Ishq (above average), Blue (below average), De Dana Dan (above average), Khatta Meetha (below average), Action Replayy (flop), Tees Maar Khan (semi hit), Patiala House (below average), Thank You (average), Desi Boyz (below average), Joker (flop), and Khiladi 786 (average).
  • Successes: Andaaz (hit), Mujhse Shaadi Karoge (hit), Phir Hera Pheri (super hit), Bhagam Bhag (hit), Namastey London (hit), Heyy Babyy (hit), Bhool Bhulaiyaa (hit), Welcome (blockbuster), Singh Is Kinng (super hit), Housefull (hit), Housefull 2 (super hit), and Rowdy Rathore (super hit).
Total Failures: 39 - Total Successes: 12.
Akshay Kumar has appeared in 51 movies in the last 13 years (the most for any of the 6 Superstars). That's an average of almost 4 movies a year. He is the only Superstar right now (other than Ajay Devgn) who puts his Superstardom on the line multiple times in a year. The initial part of the 2000s was not a fruitful time for Akshay, and now as we all know, 2007 was the year which changed it around for him. He gave 4 hits in one single year and earned legions of fans across the country. He has gone through ups and downs throughout his career, but thankfully for his fans, he hit the ups more than the downs in 2012.

Hrithik Roshan: Success Ratio is 38.8%

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  • Failures: Fiza (flop), Mission Kashmir (semi hit), Yaadein (flop), Aap Mujhe Achche Lagne Lage (flop), Na Tum Jaano Na Hum (flop), Mujhse Dosti Katroge (flop), Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon (flop), Lakshya (below average), Jodhaa Akbar (semi hit), Kites (flop), and Guzaarish (flop).
  • Successes: Kaho Naa.. Pyaar Hai (blockbuster), Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham (blockbuster), Koi.. Mil Gaya (blockbuster), Krrish (blockbuster), Dhoom 2 (blockbuster), Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara (hit), and Agneepath (hit).
Total Failures: 11 - Total Successes: 7.
Hrithik Roshan burst on to the scene in 2000 with his debut film. He had a career slump after that, but occassional blockbusters in the form of Koi Mil Gaya, Dhoom 2 and Krrish kept his Superstar status alive. He is going through a career resurgence with two back-to-back Hits, and it remains to be seen what Krrish 3 brings for him and his fans. Regardless of the fate of Krrish 3, a success ratio of close to 40% is very decent for the youngest of our Superstars.

Salman Khan: Success ratio is 30%

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  • Failures: Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge (above average), Chal Mere Bhai (average), Har Dil Jo Pyaar Karega (flop), Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye (flop), Chori Chori Chupke Chupke (flop), Tumko Na Bhool Payenge (flop), Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam (above average), Yeh Hai Jalwa (flop), Tere Naam (above average), Garv: Pride And Honour (below average), Dil Ne Jise Apna Kahaa (flop), Lucky: No Time for Love (below average), Main Pyaar Kyun Kiya? (semi hit), Kyon Ki (flop), Shaadi Karke Phas Gaya Yaar (flop), Jaan-E-Mann (flop), Marigold (flop), God Tussi Great Ho (flop), Yuvraaj (flop), London Dreams (flop), and Veer (below average).
  • Successes: Mujhse Shaadi Karogi (hit), No Entry (super hit), Partner (blockbuster), Wanted (super hit), Dabangg (all time blockbuster), Ready (blockbuster), Bodyguard (blockbuster), Ek Tha Tiger (blockbuster), and Dabangg 2 (guaranteed to be at least a Hit).
Total Failures: 21 – Total Successes 9
What can one possibly say about Salman Khan that hasn't been said already? The fact that he is a phenomena right now is well known, but what's neglected is that his career has hit the roof only after seeing very pathetic lows. Wanted changed Salman's career around and he hasn't delivered a flop since Veer, which released in early 2010. He has stuck to his favourite genre (masala) and coupled with his television appearances, his popularity has sky-rocketed. Still, nothing is certain and it is upto Salman to continue his recent success. A success percentage of 30% is a very poor reflection of his superstardom, but fortunately his movie choices have become a lot better than they were before – which provides a lot of hope for the next few years.

Shah Rukh Khan: Success ratio 62.5%

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  • Failures: Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani (flop), Josh (above average), One 2 Ka 4 (flop), Asoka (flop), Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam (above average), Chalte Chalte (semi hit), Swades (flop), Yeh Lamhe Judaai Ke, and Paheli (flop).
  • Successes: Mohabbatein (super hit), Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham (Blockbuster), Devdas (hit), Kal Ho Naa Ho (hit), Main Hoon Na (hit), Veer Zaara (super hit), Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna (hit), Don (hit), Chak De India (Blockbuster), Om Shanti Om (Blockbuster), Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (Blockbuster), My Name Is Khan (hit), Ra.One (hit), Don 2 (hit), and Jab Tak Hai Jaan (hit).
Total Successes: 15 - Total Failures: 9
Even though SRK has appeared in as many as 24 films in the given time period, his success rate is the highest among all the Top 6 Superstars of the country. Some people can argue that some of his 'hit' were't really hits, but that cannot be taken seriously as the trade considers the 'hit' movies to be successful. SRK's consistency is even more amazing since his last failure was almost 8 years back in 2005. If he can deliver proper Hits even during the 'bad' phases of his career, then it remains to be seen what type of hits he will deliver when is enjoying a 'good' phase. And, as far as profitability is concerned, SRK takes the top spot quite convincingly.

Analysis:
5 of the Top 6 Superstars of the country have crossed 40 years of age and time is not on their side. 3 of the 6 Superstars – Salman Khan, Akshay Kumar and Ajay Devgn are enjoying immense popularity recently, thanks to the remergence of the Masala genre. Their comebacks have made it a wide open game and now, any of the Top 6 actors can deliver massive hits on their day. The main reason producers invest money in movies is to make profits. If an actor has appeared in financially viable projects more than they have appeared in financially doomed projects, then the actor is considered to be successful. In this regard, Shahrukh Khan is the most successful of all the Superstars.
There's been a change recently in the economics of Hindi films – thanks to the rise in money earned from satellite and other ancillary rights, the dependency on theatrical business has decreased and the risks (for producers) have come down rapidly. But at the end of the day, if your film is not theatrically successful, it is not a true success. Films have always been considered 'hits' only when they have done rip-roaring business theatrically. It doesn't really matter how much money films earn from selling their satellite rights, as the trade always has, and always will consider a film successful if it has sold a bucketload of tickets.
The ranking of actors in terms of profibility (the higher the success %, the higher is the profibility):
  • 1. Shah Rukh Khan
  • 2. Aamir Khan
  • 3. Hrithik Roshan
  • 4. Salman Khan
  • 5. Akshay Kumar
  • 6. Ajay Devgn
The actors with the most number (not percentage) of hits (or better):
  • 1. Shah Rukh Khan (15)
  • 2. Akshay Kumar (12)
  • 3. Salman Khan (9)
  • 4. Hrithik Roshan (7)
  • = 4. Ajay Devgn (7)
  • 6. Aamir Khan (6)
The actors with the most number (not percentage) of failures:
  • 1. Ajay Devgn (40)
  • 2. Akshay Kumar (39)
  • 3. Salman Khan (21)
  • 4. Hrithik Roshan (11)
  • 5. Shah Rukh Khan (9)
  • 6. Aamir Khan (5)
Special Mention: Films in which these actors had small or inconsequential parts were not considered: Salaam-E-Ishq, Phir Milenge, Billu, Gaja Gamini, Luck By Chance, Jaani Dushman, Lajja, LOC Kargil, Taarzan: The Wonder Car are a few of the films not considered. Animated films where these actors were voiceover artists have not been considered as well (Toonpur Ka Superhero and Jumbo). Incidentally, even if these films were considered, the rankings of the actors would NOT change from their current positions.
P.S. A case can be made for the inclusion of Ranbir Kapoor in this list as he is considered to be the 7th Superstar or a mini-Superstar. His success percentage is 33% as he has appeared in 9 films till now and has given 3 Hits (Ajab Prem Ki Ghazab Kahaani, Raajneeti and Barfi).
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Salman Khan being credited with record breaking success of HAHK - is laughable.

HAHK was Madhuri's film throughout. Salla was nothing more than eye-candy/wallpaper.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes SRK broke many records. But in past. Why not now?

He's taken risks but so did others. And others are breaking records then why not him?

I don't think anyone thought Dabangg, Ghajini or Gadar could break records the way they did (though Ghajini and Dabangg were marketed really well). Dabangg actually surprised everyone. 3 Idiots was also never expected to do 200 crore. They'd felt it would do really well because it was Raju and Aamir coming together.

Gadar was total surprise when it came. Anil Sharma was what? Amisha just a one hit old newcomer. Sunny a spent force. But it broke records.

Your saying that others do films just for box office numbers is not totally true. (Though I do believe Salman doing masala films after success of Wanted & Dabangg or Aamir doing a Dhoom 3 are all result of chasing BO numbers)

I think SRK had eye on BO only when he did RNBDJ, Don 2, JTHJ and Ra One. They weren't risks really.

I just opined how unexpected stars/films overtook him/his films. And even others' crap films broke records.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bollywood_Divas

Salman Khan being credited with record breaking success of HAHK - is laughable.


HAHK was Madhuri's film throughout. Salla was nothing more than eye-candy/wallpaper.


ya right thats why salman's prem is more memorable than madhuri's nisha 😆 so sad madhuri couldnt make her other films ATBB too 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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madhuri had anjaam and HAHK in the same yr ! If she could make HAHK a ATBB so why not anjaam ???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bollywood_Divas

Salman Khan being credited with record breaking success of HAHK - is laughable.


HAHK was Madhuri's film throughout. Salla was nothing more than eye-candy/wallpaper.

It was Salman's movie as much as Madhuri's. Prem's character was a highlight.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It was about ATBBs or breaking record. Articles on consistency and success ratio do not matter because it is known that overall SRK is the most consistent star. In fact that is the point that why a star with such consistency was unable to give record breaking hit in last 11 years?

And why others crap films can shatter opening records and not his?

@Bollywood_Divas

HAHK is also Salman's film. Raja Hindustani was a Karishma Kapoor show but it is counted as Aamir's ATBB also, isn't it? K3G is counted as SRK's ATBB though it had Kajol, Amitabh-Jaya and Hrithik-Kareena also.

That is another debate altogether whether which star deserves or doesn't deserve credit for a hit film.

A guy whose overall career record is better than others at box office, should have no difficulty giving a record opener or ATBB! He had popularity, connect, charisma, media, marketing expertise what stopped his films from attaining spectacular success?
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Originally posted by: _NaughtyBoy_

Since SRK fans cant debate without bringing salman here so here are some stats too😆


Bollywood churns out the maximum number of movies every year, but only one of them beats all others and becomes the biggest grosser of the year.

Salman SRK Aamir Hrithik Sunny

Salman Khan ' SRK ' Aamir Khan ' Hrithik Roshan ' Sunny Deol

Delivering the biggest grosser of the year also means your movie is watched by the maximum number of people in that particular year on the big screen. In this day and age, with prices of movie ticket soaring, piracy and various options for entertainment (like television), it's tough to bring audiences to theatres.

Hence, topping the 'biggest grosser list' is nothing short of a major achievement. Below is a list of all major actors today and the count of the biggest grossers of the year to their credit. (Last 25 years only):


Salman KhanShahrukh KhanAamir KhanHrithik RoshanSunny Deol
1Maine Pyaar Kiya (1989)DDLJ (1995)Dil (1990)Kaho Na Pyaar Hai (2000)Border (1997)
2Saajan (1991)Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (1998)Raja Hindustani (1996)Koi Mil Gaya (2003)Gadar (2001)
3Hum Aapke Hain Kaun (1994)Devdas (2002)Ghajini (2008)Dhoom 2 (2006)
4Hum Saath Saath Hain (1999)Veer Zaara (2004)3 Idiots (2009)

5No Entry (2005)Om Shanti Om (2007)


6Dabangg (2010)



7Bodyguard (2011)



8Ek Tha Tiger (2012)



Some interesting unknown facts:

  • Salman Khan leads his contemporaries by a distance with a staggering count of 8 (9 if we include Kuch Kuch Hota Hai).
  • What makes it even more special for Salman is the fact that, he is the ONLY superstar with two biggest grossers of the decade. Maine Pyaar Kiya and Hum Aapke Hai Kaun were the biggest grossers of the 80s and 90s respectively.
  • Apart from the 5 biggest hits of the year to his credit, Shah Rukh Khan has given the 2nd biggest hit of the year for a record 8 times ' Deewana (1991), Karan Arjun (1995), Dil To Pagal Hai (1997), Mohabbatein (2000), Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham (2001), Kal Ho Na Ho (2003), Main Hoon Na (2004) and Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi (2008).
  • Salman has delivered Top 2 biggest grossers of the year three times. Hum Saath Saath Hain and Biwi No. 1 in 1999, Bodyguard and Ready in 2011, Ek Tha Tiger and Dabangg 2 in 2012 (expected).
  • Ajay Devgn has three 2nd biggest grosser of the year to his credit. Phool Aur Kaante in 1991, Pyaar to Hona hi Tha in 1998 and Golmaal 3 in 2010.
  • Akshay Kumar came close to giving the biggest hit of the year as many as 4 times. Mohra in 1994, Welcome in 2007 were the 2nd biggest hits while Singh is King and Rowdy Rathore came 3rd in 2008 and 2012 respectively.
  • 2006 belonged to Hrithik Roshan as Dhoom 2 and Krrish were the 1st and 2nd biggest hits of the year respectively.

Abhishek Sharma tweets @abhu_sharma



Edited by _NaughtyBoy_ - 12 years ago

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