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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhrishti_


I strongly agree, I believe it was highly incorrect of the makers/writers/team to portray depression as such. Back in the episode of 27th January, Jhanvi had thrown some light on the issue. I loved how in that episode Jhanvi felt the need to emphasise the problem of judgementality in the world. She was absolutely right when she said that any person having mental issues is considered crazy in this world. It would have been more accurate if she blamed our society instead of the world, as in many places these stereotypes do not exist anymore and people are broad-minded and supportive of people with mental issues. However in India, anyone who has ever visited a psychologist, for whatever reasons is considered crazy and secluded. The crowd fails to realise that isolating people with minimal mental problems just makes the situation worse.

It's sad that the makers of the show are misusing this platform which can really make a difference. I do not expect them to 'send a positive message' or anything of the sort but I do hope to see fairly correct diagnosis as they are just making people believe that an individual suffering from depression turns out to be like Maya when in reality, that isn't the fact. Maya has much more to her personality than mere depression but from today's episode, many viewers may conclude otherwise.


Amazing how Jhanvi who'd debunked oft-perpetuated stereotypes about depression is now trying to tell Vandy that Maya is popping anti-depressant pills? I've not watched that episode but both Maya and she had done that to paint Saanjh in a negative light in front of Arjun, right?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Why does it matter how a TV show portrays it as? It is a fictional show, and if you have problems separating it from what is actually true, then you shouldn't watch it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

Why does it matter how a TV show portrays it as? It is a fictional show, and if you have problems separating it from what is actually true, then you shouldn't watch it.


If you have problems with the topic of the thread, then you shouldn't visit it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17


To be honest even though villians in general on indian serials are always unjustified in their action, the only thing that stops maya from being an unnecessarily evil character without reason is her childhood experiences. Most villians on tv just do gruesome things for no reason, whereas maya to a certain extent can't help herself from doing what she does anymore, because really she needs medical help.


While I understand what you're trying to say, I'd like to emphasize on how and why you have misinterpreted why this post has been put up.
It's not at all the question of Maya's diagnosis.
It's about what the makers are trying to show is complete absurdity when it comes to certain issues. No one is pouncing at the makers. It's just that we shouldn't keep mum when things like this are shown.
Many of the viewers are not educated on this issue. Many of them might set in stone the belief they already had that mental illnesses are some form of pagalpan.

Originally posted by: HippoSucks

Why does it matter how a TV show portrays it as? It is a fictional show, and if you have problems separating it from what is actually true, then you shouldn't watch it.


It does matter how a TV show broadcast on such a huge platform portrays it. And:
It's not about you and me.
It's about the masses. There's already a huge lack of awareness regarding this, and to many, if not majority, of the people here in the society equate mental illnesses to pagalpan.
It may rub the masses in a wrong way, and that's what I'm trying to imply.

Originally posted by: CaputDraconis

If you're on twitter, please tweet it to @shilpafdmello and @sontv.

The show has positively put me off with its pedestrian writing and misusing sensitive issues like rape and depression is the last nail in the coffin.


Their deadpan and callous attitude really should be rectified.

Seriously, did something happen to the original writer?


Thank you for the usernames, I just tweeted to them: http://twitter.com/HadhSeJyada/status/862054604531417088

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you very much for making this thread. I had just logged in to talk about it.

But I think you need to change the title. The makers have already shown us a woman orchestrating her own rape, what else are you expecting from them? They just throw the depression word casually for the layman to think that she has a mental illness in order to define her unique personality.

First of all, I am seriously against characterizing mentally ill people as villains. This is not helping at all. A normal and rational person can be murderous as well. You don't need to be clinically diagnosed to commit crimes. Second, even if Maya is mentally ill, it has nothing to do with depression.

Depression, sadism and homicidal tendencies are all different conditions.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey @Hadhsejyada I totally agree with you! I used to say that very often but people were bashing me saying that I am Jen blind fan etc and attacking me. Glad I found you! Finally someone who believe in the same thing I do!
Mental illness is not a joke. Lets lift the taboo
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

Why does it matter how a TV show portrays it as? It is a fictional show, and if you have problems separating it from what is actually true, then you shouldn't watch it.



It MATTER .A show, even if it is fictional has some impact on the viewers. People might get the wrong idea when they watch this and then the taboo/stigma around mental illness will still prevail which is wrong. Nobody is immune from that and it's high time we start raising awareness on this issue instead of negative brainwashing? I'm sure you didnt realize but there are many types of people who watch this show of different age groups, how about kids and teens? Are they not getting the wrong idea about mental illness and other people who are not educated enough/who don't know anything about mental illness-psychology will never know what is mental illness and this stereotype will keep on going forever.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Y12345

Hey @Hadhsejyada I totally agree with you! I used to say that very often but people were bashing me saying that I am Jen blind fan etc and attacking me. Glad I found you! Finally someone who believe in the same thing I do!

Mental illness is not a joke. Lets lift the taboo


It may seem impossible right now, but if we all work together, someday, someday, We'll surely lift the taboo.
Glad to meet you too!
And don't let the hate get to you. Keep smiling.

Originally posted by: Atonement

Thank you very much for making this thread. I had just logged in to talk about it.

But I think you need to change the title. The makers have already shown us a woman orchestrating her own rape, what else are you expecting from them? They just throw the depression word casually for the layman to think that she has a mental illness in order to define her unique personality.

First of all, I am seriously against characterizing mentally ill people as villains. This is not helping at all. A normal and rational person can be murderous as well. You don't need to be clinically diagnosed to commit crimes.

Second, even if Maya is mentally ill, it has nothing to do with depression.

Depression, sadism and homicidal tendencies are all different conditions.



What do I put the title as then?

Tbh, I don't expect them to do much..
But the uproar when the trapcase happened and the silence when this happened it disheartening to see.
There are so many people who would stand up for that, but no one to stand up for this.

Bold: this is something which everyone NEEDS to know. That a "sane" person can be a threat to them too. The makers being so vague about it, equates mental ailments to pagalpan and antagonizes it.

Originally posted by: CaputDraconis


Here Jhanvi clearly leads Vandy to a file containing Maya taking prescription pills allegedly for her depression (as shown in the FB scene although Maya had used it to con Saanjh back then) Vandy's dialogue of neatly demarcating buri from bimari, as if they're both mutually exclusive is what makes it stupid! It's what the CVs are peddling through Vandy that Maya in fact is a 'pagal' due to her popping anti-depressant pills. It's shameful tbh.


On point.
And no, it doesn't make it stupid, it makes it plain outrageous.
Shameful as well as infuriating.
Edited by HadhSeJyada - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atonement

Thank you very much for making this thread. I had just logged in to talk about it.

But I think you need to change the title. The makers have already shown us a woman orchestrating her own rape, what else are you expecting from them? They just throw the depression word casually for the layman to think that she has a mental illness in order to define her unique personality.

First of all, I am seriously against characterizing mentally ill people as villains. This is not helping at all. A normal and rational person can be murderous as well. You don't need to be clinically diagnosed to commit crimes. Second, even if Maya is mentally ill, it has nothing to do with depression.

Depression, sadism and homicidal tendencies are all different conditions.


@bold - exactly.. I heard for all mental illnesses, anti-depression pills are like basic prescription, correct me if I am wrong. And I know a person who is suffering with depression.. Depressed people don't have energy to think about themselves, so manipulation, playing mind games etc bahut dur ki baat hai.. I don't know what cvs are trying to show about Maya..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Completely agreed, HadhSeJyada. The show's managed to put me off with its terrible writing. Having said that, I do think that the makers aren't such ignorant fools who'd pin depression as the reason for Maya's pysche. If my guess isn't incorrect, they're actually trying to debunk the depression related myths by first showcasing the stigma attached to it and then going ahead to reveal Maya's real mental condition. I may be hoping for too much from them but something about it all doesn't add up and thus, my guess.

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