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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@jane but I felt sorry for Arjun and Ayan. If Saanjh could have thought above her ego she could have avoided it. She as a lawyer could have bought the much needed objectivity to it.

@aditi when Maya spoke I could feel one thing about her. She infact felt dirty about that touch. I dont think she faked that part. Her eyes didnt give any indication of fakeness. I was keenly observing her eyes. But Ayan was guilty of physical assault. That's truth. Saanjh cannot escape that truth. It was her need to escape that truth which made her ask Samay not to come. See it reflected very badly on her. More than Maya, Saanjh failed Ayan today. She failed Arjun today when she made all their intimate details public. Now of course is past. As only past can take down Maya.


That's what I am saying Shruthi di.
Maybe she is incapable of differentiating btw sexual assault nd physical assault. She is also a victim of child abuse and is scared of touch. She doesn't let any other man touch her except Arjun.
But to prove her point she made manipulations like tampering CCTV footage and medical tests etc, as she knows noone will believe her and Saanjh will prove she's mad n bad n Ayaan will walk out free.
It's due to her mental issues, which Arjun doesn't even seem to be paying attention to.

Exactly Saanjh's mistake was that to ask Samay stay away. If she was on right side, she should not have been fearing. And atleast should have presented the case in a manner saying physical assault has been done.
Edited by aditi97 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Saajh was a freaking moron. She should've owned up to the 'physical assault' part if she really wanted to shovel the bigger pile of poo. But her ego made her incredibly short-sighed and she ended up playing the wrong moves.
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Posted: 8 years ago
2nd half
What went wrong in this case is that Saanjh took it to the personal level. Maya filed a case because she was a victim of physical assault. It was not her intention to defame the Sharmas or VM. She did what any woman in her place would do.
Samay on the other hand told what he actually SAW. He didn't manipulate or lie for his personal benefits. His words were the actual truth. Ayaan assaulted Maya but his intention was not rape like the prosecution argued.
Saanjh's one dialogue was pretty pathetic "lekin rape hua tho nahi". Being a lawyer did she really think that a case should be filed only after rape happens and the people who attempt to rape should be let go without any punishments.
I agree with the prosecution and the judge today. Like the prosecution said it was a case about attempt to rape and Saanjh took it to a whole new level by bringing in Maya's past and ArYa's personal life. And like the judge said she became so blind in her agenda that she forgot that she's a woman herself and defamed Maya to such an extend that she was forced to take off her clothes to prove herself innocent.
What we saw on Maya's face after the verdict was genuine happiness of a victim getting justice. Whatever happened outside the court is definitely Maya taking revenge from Saanjh and to some extend Saanjh did deserve it for her holier that thou attitude. Saanjh publicly humiliated Maya before media and also in the court. So it was expected that Maya is going to retaliate and that doesn't make her black like some people said.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: vid6


+2. My question is what was Maya's smirk in the end was all about? Was she happy that finally Saanjh deserves all those women rights activists statements or is all an act?

I felt that whatever happened inside the court was genuine. Maya and her expressions were genuine inside the courtroom. Maya was genuinely happy for getting justice after the verdict was announced.
Whatever happened outside the court can or cannot be Maya's act.
It could be Maya taking revenge from Saanjh for humiliating her both inside and outside the court. Some of Saanjh's dialogues were pretty pathetic. So it's no wonder if Maya retaliated this way.
Or it could be the activists doing it all by themselves and Maya smiling seeing Saanjh's public humiliation. The case did get a lots of unwanted publicity, thanks to Saanjh's overconfident statement to the media.
So it could be either way and we'll only get a clear picture on Monday.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@krystal it is still in twilight zone for me. Because when Maya was explaining her wounds the FB came to her. That gives me a feeling, she felt it was attempt to rape. But Samay's testimony proves it was not. It was physical assault. Ayan cannot escape physical assault and intimidation. This one he is guilty off.

I was yesterday thinking when Maya was stripping why the Goddess of justice was shown. The beauty of Goddess of justice is she doesnt see who is standing. it is about the balance in her hand. The balance takes into account everything. It is for the prosecutor and defense lawyer to ensure all the facts are properly presented. Did Saanjh present it correctly. She went overboard with Maya manipulation and too much of Arjun life to the extend she told any brother would have ripped apart Maya's dress. No you dont do that. A saner person has better options.

And even when Samay gave his testimony she didnt feel like cross examining him, why he felt it was not attempt to rape. Prosecution lawyer drew his conclusion.

In a way perception won. The fact you know everything won. Nobody's ego is affected. In the real war of dharma your ego is killed. As it is ego that creates perceptions.

So I will be following Samay. What he tells. Because he is the voice of truth, and Maya is the voice of perception . That's why their dance is interesting. You have to,listen to Samay and correct the perception. You have to hear him fully. I am happy CVs have kept the metaphors exact. I love them for that.


Bold - I too believe in that.
And everything else u said is on point here.
Samay is exactly like he said in start for me "samay sees only truth" and he had said what he had seen that was too gud.
And sanjh was so irritated seeing samay telling whatever he had seen also. But according to me saanjh with her ego destroyed the whole case herself. Atleast ayan wud have punished for just physical assault but she made it to rape attempt.
And seeing the video where ayan was on maya even VM was shocked did u see..
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: vid6


+2. My question is what was Maya's smirk in the end was all about? Was she happy that finally Saanjh deserves all those women rights activists statements or is all an act?


Because Maya hates Saanjh and so does Saanjh hate Maya. Didn't Saanjh insult Maya in the court? Wasn't Saanjh getting personal in the court? That smirk of Maya was not something that was unexpected infact it was very much expected. Afterall Saanjh had literally spewed venom and threw dirt on Maya in the court instead of looking at the case objectively.

All Saanjh could have said that it was all a misunderstanding although i still don't buy that keys theory but anyways for arguements sake Saanjh should have just allowed Samay to speak in the court rather then bringing down Maya and insulting her.

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Posted: 8 years ago

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1st half

As we sow, so shall you reap. Ayaan did commit a crime and he's going to be punished for it. There are people arguing how Maya is framing Ayaan, he's innocent etc etc. But I strongly believe that he committed a crime. Maya described it so well today. Ayaan's crime was, he touched a woman without her permission. He manhandled her in the name of revenge. No woman, not even the worst ones deserve this kind of punishment. Yes, Maya admitted her mistake too. She went "beyhadh" in her love for her husband. She drugged him and tied him up. Yes all these are punishable mistakes. But not the punishment Ayaan gave her. That was his biggest mistake.
I loved Maya today. She voiced out the feelings of a violated woman. Someone touched her body without her permission and she has every right to feel disgusted. She said it right, "rape is the only crime where the victim becomes the culprit". Only crime where the victim is hunted down again and again. The only crime where the most intimate secrets of one's life are brought into a public court and the person's character is maligned. That is some hell for sure. No woman would want to go through all that. Everything Maya said today was right. She voiced out the hurt and displayed the marks that most people hide from the society.
The question she asked Saanjh was spot on "dosti toh nibali par thodi insaniyat bhi dikhati". Yes Saanjh forgot that she herself was a woman when she publicly disrobed Maya. She was enjoying Maya's tears with a sadistic pleasure. Not once did she think as woman. Her agenda was to prove Maya mad and bad and break the couple forever. She was focused in it so much that she forgot what her case was actually about. She made this into a rape case when she could have easily portrayed it as a case of physical violence and a crime committed under the influence of alcohol and anger. Saanjh ruined Ayaan in her need to make Maya look bad.
Arjun's anger was justified today. His wife was made into a laughing stock today, she had to publicly disrobe herself to prove her innocence and yet Saanjh was still slinging dirt at her. Arjun's dialogue to Saanjh was right to some extend. Yes did she fall so low that she forgot who she was, what her upbringing was and how to treat a woman in public. Arjun couldn't even bare to see his brother's heinous act today. Today Arjun Sharma acted as a husband rather than a brother. And also Saanjh with her selfishness made sure that Arjun's going to hate his brother for the rest of his life. It was not Maya who broke the Sharma family today, it was Saanjh herself. This is what happens when one thinks themselves above God. They forget their worth and ends up destroying everything.

⭐️ exactly what I feel !!! Maya is a master manipulator, but even then no one has the right to force themselves on her. Ayaan's real intention may have been just to scare her,thus his statements like " tum kisiko muh dikhane ki layak nahi rahogi" but to scare her of raping her is disgusting on every possible angle.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I liked how finally the prosecution opened his mouth.. No matter what, no woman deserves to be assaulted and Ayan was guilty of physical assault.
Sanjh was too busy digging Maya and Arjun's relationship issues rather than looking at the attempt to rape incident.
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Okay, reading all the povs here, I am right then too especially after Samay spoke as he's the voice of truth in the show. Ayaan was physically assaulting her, and Maya misunderstood it as rape. I had felt this way from the last few episodes seeing both Maya and Ayaan looking genuine in their own places. Ayaan was physical assulting her and we can say even sexually because no one tears clothes of a woman like that, and Maya felt it was rape. Not because she's lying or anything, but because she genuinely thinks he was raping her because any woman would think the man is trying to rape her if the man behaves and says all those disgusting dialogues pointing only towards to rape the woman like how Ayaan was behaving and talking. Maya was no different for thinking he was attempting to rape her. But still Ayaan is one moron. Agree, he didn't intend to rape which I felt seeing his expressions from the last episodes after that rape episode, but it's very hard to believe on him or sympthize with him when he doesn't even accept physical assault nor the sexual assult charges either. Those are real charges, but he doesn't think he did any of that all either. He's completely blind. All he has been saying is that HE DID NOTHING AT ALL which only make him look like he did intend to rape her for keep lying like that every time.

Anyway, it's all Saanjh's fault. She has ruined Ayaan today. Actually, it's both her and Ayaan's fault but more Saanjh's fault as she was a lawyer but got blinded by her vengeance against Maya. She could've easily accepted that yes, Ayaan was physical assulting her, but Maya felt it was rape. Both Maya and Ayaan would've got justice. But now Saanjh herself made the whole case in favor of Maya with way she spoke all nonsense of rape didn't happen so it's no big deal, maya should'vs defended herself against rape, bringing ArYa's married life, etc. I feel bad for Ayaan and at the same time angry too for not accepting any of his wrongs. Now he's stuck with attempt to rape charge. Maya got justice though. I do hope she realizes Ayaan didn't mean rape though and just charges him with physical assult, etc despite all his disgusting dialogues and actions which did look like rape and which he was big moron for. But right now, she's too shaken and traumatized to think that way. She truly feels dirty and shaken remembering all the FBS and the experience she went through to think rationally.
Edited by _Darling_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Maybe she is incapable of differentiating btw sexual assault nd physical assault. She is also a victim of child abuse and is scared of touch. She doesn't let any other man touch her except Arjun.
But to prove her point she made manipulations like tampering CCTV footage and medical tests etc, as she knows noone will believe her and Saanjh will prove she's mad n bad n Ayaan will walk out free.
It's due to her mental issues, which Arjun doesn't even seem to be paying attention to.

Exactly Saanjh's mistake was that to ask Samay stay away. If she was on right side, she should not have been fearing. And atleast should have presented the case in a manner saying physical assault has been done.
@aditi this makes more sense..Maya is not aware of rape and physical assualt becox of her past..Bang on..Maya ka sach which is staged by Ashwin..If Maya staged rape attempt that would butcher her character,this gives justice to her as Arjun said..
Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago

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