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Posted: 7 years ago
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The thing is, we have mainly only seen flashbacks from Aditya's point of view and because it is his pov, these fbs are going to be heavily biased. He remembers the memories that are good and in which he is clearly in love. We don't know much about Pooja yet. In fact we don't even know the equation of their relationship before marriage or how the marriage happened. ALL we get is Adi's heavily biased POV. That being said, it is entirely possible that Pooja felt neglected and lonely in the marriage. If your husband is a pilot who's constantly working and doesn't have all that much time to be home most days, it gets hard and lonely. This part of the marriage hasn't been shown. We see when Adi is home, when him and Pooja are together. This is why the diary is so important, because Pooja has a life outside her marriage with Adi and we haven't been shown that yet. If she felt lonely or neglected and why she may have felt that way are yet to come. Because it's definitely obvious that by no means was this marriage perfect.

THAT being said, cheating is the utmost hard betrayal of trust and loyalty. It is wrong. Two people enter into a relationship with the intention of being each other's person, and the expectation that there is just the two of you and no one else. Relationships are hard work. You cannot simply love a person and think ah yes that's it now we can just be together, or be arranged into a marriage and not have an open line of communication. Loving someone is easy, trust me it's the easiest thing to do in the world. But actively committing to them and choosing to love someone everyday is very hard. When you choose to be with someone it's not a decision that happens once and fades away, you continue to choose them everyday. You choose them over the arguments, the fights and that days you don't talk. You cannot get what you want out of a relationship if you're not communicating. If you can't talk to your partner than who will you talk to? If you're unhappy or unsatisfied, there's no one in the entire world who will fix that for you but your partner. This is regardless of if you're a man or a woman. I have seen coldhearted and manipulative women and I've seen insensitive prick men. Men are socially conditioned to behave and react to the world a certain way, this is indefinitely true. Just as women are socially conditioned to be a certain way. We are all products of our society. Because we live in a patriarchal world, it is those values that we grow up with and those same ones we try to break free from when we realize just how ridiculous they are.

Pooja and Aditya's relationship failing, Adi not seeing Pooja's emotions, Pooja not communicating her own feelings, Pooja trying to seek her own validation elsewhere, these are all hallmarks in a marriage where someone has given up. And Pooja, if she cheated, did. It is much easier to cheat than it is to sit down and make a relationship work. When you cheat on someone, you basically tell them they're not worth investing in anymore and neither is your relationship with them. Aditya seemed to think marriage was perfect and full of love up until the end, and most people who have been cheated on believe the same. The cheating comes as a complete surprise and the cheating is always, always the fault of the cheater and not the cheated on.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#42
i agree on u completely ..
married for 20yrs now .

my hubby and me are poles apart .
our taste dont match .
if he says north i say south .
thats not unusual at all .

few ppl expect something filmy but life is not bed of roses .
in a marriage one has to go slow patience , compromise and respect each other will make marriage work .

in marriage one should be truthful if he or she has affair he or she should clear it off .
ppl shouldn't ride on both it doesn't work that way .

if love dries its couple equal responsibility.
these problems arise when one keep traveling or not taking spouse seriously ppl need to work on it ..

adi seems childish and impulsive and take it for granted types because he married childhood sweet heart .
marrying in tender age lots of dream might dry down at some age because ur used to the nature ppl want excitement (i dont say its a sin but i feel ppl should end the matter and decide firmly instead of being confused and cheating the other )

communication is the main key to good marriage .

i dont say po has done a sin but keeping secrets has put her in a rador
Posted: 7 years ago
#43
I am married but i am little bit emotional too for a guy. So not all guys are emotionless, it varies person to person.
I agree with you husband and wife can see things differently. Sometimes wives do not understand we husbands care for them. We may not utter those words, we may not express our feelings directly. But believe me when my wife fell sic it creates havoc inside of my mind but at the same time i may not show her that directly.

Sometimes we husbands do not know what to say when our wives go through a problem, because we feared that, we may say something insensitive.

But, i think a marriage needs talk, lots of talk, because if we don't talk then misunderstanding can grow between us.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: -Swetha-

@Angels11
Very well written post by you, dear! :)
I'm married for 3 years, having 1 kid and living with in laws in Chennai.
I agree with all points you have said about men.. esp if we are living in India.



Hey Swetha, glad 2 c u here 🤗 I applaud the CVs for taking up a difficult & sensitive topic. So far they ve handled it well. Hope they continue this way & dont succumb to TRP pressures 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45
Jesus Christ! This almost seems like Men Hate topic at this point. Men yein, Men woh, Men are humans too ffs. I left the topic coz obviously it going in circles but NOT ALL MEN. There are some lovely men in the world. Those who care about other human beings. And B'days? Anniversaries? Who even gets excited about them after a certain point of time? Atleast I don't. Also, funny coz there are definitely more poets than poetess' in world. People of all kinds sit in bars and enjoy matches. I remember I was so excited about the World Cup semifinal with Aus a few years ago and watched that match on a big screen in a bar. There were many women there, Yes! Many! sans any men accompanying them. To put down opinions as Facts and calling everyone inexperienced jocks is plain rude. This men like Blue and Women like Pink, or Men like Sports and Women like Mush are nothing but pre-conceived notions. Also, Proven Facts? By whom? By the writer of a book? They are opinions too. These are not mathematical equations that can proven as universal facts. It involves humans, everybody has their own experiences. Nobody knows the entire world to put it down like that. It is as easy as seeing India is a country of snake charmers or Indians speak like Apu from Simpsons.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: vena.cava.

The thing is, we have mainly only seen flashbacks from Aditya's point of view and because it is his pov, these fbs are going to be heavily biased. He remembers the memories that are good and in which he is clearly in love. We don't know much about Pooja yet. In fact we don't even know the equation of their relationship before marriage or how the marriage happened. ALL we get is Adi's heavily biased POV. That being said, it is entirely possible that Pooja felt neglected and lonely in the marriage. If your husband is a pilot who's constantly working and doesn't have all that much time to be home most days, it gets hard and lonely. This part of the marriage hasn't been shown. We see when Adi is home, when him and Pooja are together. This is why the diary is so important, because Pooja has a life outside her marriage with Adi and we haven't been shown that yet. If she felt lonely or neglected and why she may have felt that way are yet to come. Because it's definitely obvious that by no means was this marriage perfect.


THAT being said, cheating is the utmost hard betrayal of trust and loyalty. It is wrong. Two people enter into a relationship with the intention of being each other's person, and the expectation that there is just the two of you and no one else. Relationships are hard work. You cannot simply love a person and think ah yes that's it now we can just be together, or be arranged into a marriage and not have an open line of communication. Loving someone is easy, trust me it's the easiest thing to do in the world. But actively committing to them and choosing to love someone everyday is very hard. When you choose to be with someone it's not a decision that happens once and fades away, you continue to choose them everyday. You choose them over the arguments, the fights and that days you don't talk. You cannot get what you want out of a relationship if you're not communicating. If you can't talk to your partner than who will you talk to? If you're unhappy or unsatisfied, there's no one in the entire world who will fix that for you but your partner. This is regardless of if you're a man or a woman. I have seen coldhearted and manipulative women and I've seen insensitive prick men. Men are socially conditioned to behave and react to the world a certain way, this is indefinitely true. Just as women are socially conditioned to be a certain way. We are all products of our society. Because we live in a patriarchal world, it is those values that we grow up with and those same ones we try to break free from when we realize just how ridiculous they are.

Pooja and Aditya's relationship failing, Adi not seeing Pooja's emotions, Pooja not communicating her own feelings, Pooja trying to seek her own validation elsewhere, these are all hallmarks in a marriage where someone has given up. And Pooja, if she cheated, did. It is much easier to cheat than it is to sit down and make a relationship work. When you cheat on someone, you basically tell them they're not worth investing in anymore and neither is your relationship with them. Aditya seemed to think marriage was perfect and full of love up until the end, and most people who have been cheated on believe the same. The cheating comes as a complete surprise and the cheating is always, always the fault of the cheater and not the cheated on.



The 1st emotion is defensiveness. I was perfect, how the hell did he/she find fault with me. Currently Adi is in this phase. In tat sense Zoya has been better. She is shown to be introspecting. She feels guilty tat prob she never knew her hubby well. My heart actually reaches out to her. She is genuinely sad tat the marriage failed & she is trying to find out the truth. For Adi its more like his ego is hurt. May be i might b wrong or its his way of hiding his pain but Adi has never been shown 2 introspect. He still feels tat he is perfect & is lashing out at poor Zoya. The day he realizes his faults r the day he ll fall in love with Zoya 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: mijanur

I am married but i am little bit emotional too for a guy. So not all guys are emotionless, it varies person to person.

I agree with you husband and wife can see things differently. Sometimes wives do not understand we husbands care for them. We may not utter those words, we may not express our feelings directly. But believe me when my wife fell sic it creates havoc inside of my mind but at the same time i may not show her that directly.

Sometimes we husbands do not know what to say when our wives go through a problem, because we feared that, we may say something insensitive.

But, i think a marriage needs talk, lots of talk, because if we don't talk then misunderstanding can grow between us.



Finally a perspective from a guy. Yeah I totally agree that we ve different ways of reacting & expressing our emotions.
Posted: 7 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: -BebaakBegum-

Jesus Christ! This almost seems like Men Hate topic at this point. Men yein, Men woh, Men are humans too ffs. I left the topic coz obviously it going in circles but NOT ALL MEN. There are some lovely men in the world. Those who care about other human beings. And B'days? Anniversaries? Who even gets excited about them after a certain point of time? Atleast I don't. Also, funny coz there are definitely more poets than poetess' in world. People of all kinds sit in bars and enjoy matches. I remember I was so excited about the World Cup semifinal with Aus a few years ago and watched that match on a big screen in a bar. There were many women there, Yes! Many! sans any men accompanying them. To put down opinions as Facts and calling everyone inexperienced jocks is plain rude. This men like Blue and Women like Pink, or Men like Sports and Women like Mush are nothing but pre-conceived notions. Also, Proven Facts? By whom? By the writer of a book? They are opinions too. These are not mathematical equations that can proven as universal facts. It involves humans, everybody has their own experiences. Nobody knows the entire world to put it down like that. It is as easy as seeing India is a country of snake charmers or Indians speak like Apu from Simpsons.

Thanks for the support sister, we men are not that bad.
Yes, as a man, i can say we men are not same, I am not even totally similar to my dad. An arab men has more similarity in his mindset , thinking, attitude with an arab woman than me, an indian man.
Every human being is unique we can not generalize them.
Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Angels11



Finally a perspective from a guy. Yeah I totally agree that we ve different ways of reacting & expressing our emotions.

That is why talking is important, it helps us to understand each other.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: -BebaakBegum-

Jesus Christ! This almost seems like Men Hate topic at this point. Men yein, Men woh, Men are humans too ffs. I left the topic coz obviously it going in circles but NOT ALL MEN. There are some lovely men in the world. Those who care about other human beings. And B'days? Anniversaries? Who even gets excited about them after a certain point of time? Atleast I don't. Also, funny coz there are definitely more poets than poetess' in world. People of all kinds sit in bars and enjoy matches. I remember I was so excited about the World Cup semifinal with Aus a few years ago and watched that match on a big screen in a bar. There were many women there, Yes! Many! sans any men accompanying them. To put down opinions as Facts and calling everyone inexperienced jocks is plain rude. This men like Blue and Women like Pink, or Men like Sports and Women like Mush are nothing but pre-conceived notions. Also, Proven Facts? By whom? By the writer of a book? They are opinions too. These are not mathematical equations that can proven as universal facts. It involves humans, everybody has their own experiences. Nobody knows the entire world to put it down like that. It is as easy as seeing India is a country of snake charmers or Indians speak like Apu from Simpsons.



I pity ur comprehension skills. Where did I ever say that I hate men or they r horrible species. Can u actually show from my posts specifically where I ve said this. Its you who is approaching the debate with a closed mind & refusing to either understand or view the other person's POV. All that me & other ppl r saying is that men & women ve different ways of approaching a problem or reacting to a situation. If u continue 2 argue that no there is absolutely no difference then there is no point in continuing this discussion. No1 is saying the guy is wrong or the girl is right. Wrong is wrong. Here Pooja was wrong in cheating & so was Yash. Their gender has got nothing 2 do with it. I dont even want 2 go into all that poet/poetess stuff. Its nothing 2 do with gender. All i said was hardly .1% of the population w'd like 2 go to a poetry session. Did i mention gender anywhere. I am a girl & I hate poetry. So just coz Adi hated it & refused 2 go doesnt make him a bad spouse. Even i w;d ve said no. My point bt bringing the gender difference is only to show that considering the difficulties that any average Indian woman faces post marriage, Pooja literally had a dream life. Some1 else also rightly pointed it out. She married a rich, handsome guy who loves her. No nagging in laws. She dint ve 2 slog in an office like most of us 2 earn a living. She had time 2 paint & go 2 poetry sessions when the majority of us sweat it out in the kitchen. Most of the probs were only in her mind & nothing 2 do with Adi. The probs were either imaginary or trivial. If she had been open with Adi who also happened 2 b her childhood friend all this c'd ve been avoided.

P.S There r research papers published by top institutions like Stanford, Harvard etc bt the difference in the way men & women think. There r even differences in the brain structure. In fact its actually proven tat men r better at spacial cognitive skills, navigation, logical reasoning etc while women tend to be more creative & excel in multitasking. Men r more focused & single minded while women tend 2 look at the larger picture due 2 their inherent emotional empathy. Its not something concocted by me. These r proper papers published by scientists...


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