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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: BeatifulSoul_

Jagya should not have asked some stuff of kid Nimboli from Mangala when from Mangala's story he connected the dots and understood Nimboli is Nandini Why he should bother ? if even if suspected Nimboli is Nandini then Nandini is Anandi's daughter Why Jagya needed to interfere in Anandi's life ? Anandi could search for her daughter on her own

He should not have called Anandi when he found out Nandini

even if told Anandi then he should not have searched for Mangala and Nimboli but gone home and give time to his family and do his work Nimboli is not his daughter why he should search for her and interfere in Anandi's life Anandi should do it on her own

Then we would have seen Anandi be able to find Nandini in this birth without Jagya's help



Most of the time Jagya accompanied and actively helped anandi and sometimes Anant. Jagya even made Shivam happy during those BH days. Anandi's kids were cared for and Ganga ws the silent supporter. How can we discount their support and contribution?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32
Anandi made a mistake by promising Ratan she would help him meet his son. She accepted that mistake and did say that she should have consulted them before making the promise.She even went back on her word and told Bimla that she can't fulfill her promise.
Did she interfere in Jagya Ganga's life and tell Mannu that Ratan is his father?
She went and brought back Mannu and Pooja because Bimla called her up for reasons best known only to Bimla.


When Mannu ran away from home Anandi was helping Jagya and Ganga as well as Pooja's mother doing her bit.She too went searching for Mannu along with them just like Jagya went along with her to search for Nandini and Mangala.





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Posted: 9 years ago
#33
Jagya bought enimity with Akheraj because of his own actions and beliefs. Anandi had nothing to do with it yet when Akheraj kidnapped Ganga and asked for Anandi and her daughter in return for release of Ganga Anandi need not have offered to go with Jagya to help him get his wife released from Akheraj's captivity.
Why did she have to risk her life and her daughter's life for Ganga?

If Jagya had not taken Anandi and her daughter with him Akheraj would not have come out of his hiding and police would not have been able to catch him either.

Why did she not sit and watch Jagya trying to put Mangala's idea into action instead of risking her life?


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Posted: 9 years ago
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People keep talking about how Jagya helped Anandi find her daughter but then why failure to acknowledge the fact that Anandi risked her life and her daughter's life to help Jagya get his wife released from Akheraj?
If Ganga was safely back from Akheraj and his captivity that little girl had a big role to play.She told Jagya hand over her to Akheraj and get Ganga back.

Jagya had a police back up but anything could have gone wrong.Akheraj could have fired at the child and the child could have died in the process.

It was sheer luck they all escaped unscathed.

So what can be said of Jagya?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Aparna. Who is discounting that Anandi, M or N didn't support J in finding G? Infact Nandini's contribution in that was far more appreciated because of what she did being a child.


It is you who is discounting J, Dsa and Anant's efforts by calling it circumstances or by giving undue credit to the jeweler. Hence people are pointing out how, when and where these people contributed to make this reunion happen.

I don't see what's the need of digging the past regarding Ratan's promise or Jagya saving 4 women, when what is precisely being discussed is "how BH folks and associates have played a strong supportive role in Anandi's life".

Why does the support offered by BH to Anandi become her "earned rights" when the support is in Anandi's favour and becomes "interference" when they do something against her choices?

Either ways people do not get their due credits for supporting Anandi. The credits are either to Anandi's circumstances or to the fact they owe to help Anandi now bse once she had helped them.

Why don't we also look at the magnitude of the help Anandi received over what she had given initially. It will be very easy to figure out that she got more than she gave.






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Posted: 9 years ago
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All the things that Anandi did and or doing to help others were brought in because of the way people keep on saying that Anandi is enjoying the fruits of other people's hard work.

Didn't all these people benefit from Anandi's efforts in the past? Did she reach out to them in the hope that they will help her some day or did she do it out of her own helping nature?
Digging about promise to Ratan was brought by someone else.
People keep on harping how Jagya left everything and went along with Anandi in search of Nandini.
But when Anandi left her work and her problems and was busy helping Jagya Ganga find Mannu she was criticised.
All these things come up again and again because Anandi's help to these people is ignored and only these people's help to Anandi is highlighted.They all are with her because she was there for them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is saying what one sows is what one reaps.
If Anandi is indeed enjoying the fruits of other people's work she also contributed to their happiness.
Why try to ignore that?
She could have wallowed in self pity,ignored her duty towards her son towards the family who was her source of emotional support and ignored her duties towards the society but she never did.
While searching for her daughter she still found it in her to reach out to others be it Nidhi Pooja Anant or Singh family. Why her efforts to help others are discredited?
When she was reaching out to these people she was criticised saying she is too busy with these people and doesn't care for her daughter.
When she found her daughter and realised that her daughter is not ready to accept her mother she was so scared of losing her daughter that she was willing to be called CC for the rest of her life if necessary. She was ridiculed for her fear of losing her daughter.
If she respected the lady who took care of her daughter and was soft in her approach she was called coward
If she wants to help the lady against Dsa's wishes she is again criticised.
How is that every act of Anandi is criticised?
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: aparnauma

There is saying what one sows is what one reaps.

If Anandi is indeed enjoying the fruits of other people's work she also contributed to their happiness.
Why try to ignore that?
She could have wallowed in self pity,ignored her duty towards her son towards the family who was her source of emotional support and ignored her duties towards the society but she never did.
While searching for her daughter she still found it in her to reach out to others be it Nidhi Pooja Anant or Singh family. Why her efforts to help others are discredited?
When she was reaching out to these people she was criticised saying she is too busy with these people and doesn't care for her daughter.
When she found her daughter and realised that her daughter is not ready to accept her mother she was so scared of losing her daughter that she was willing to be called CC for the rest of her life if necessary. She was ridiculed for her fear of losing her daughter.
If she respected the lady who took care of her daughter and was soft in her approach she was called coward
If she wants to help the lady against Dsa's wishes she is again criticised.
How is that every act of Anandi is criticised?

@bold: Nobody is criticising Anandi for helping Mangala. Many are quite happy that she is helping Mangala, and others are just wondering why she felt the need to help Mangala after being betrayed by her.


In fact if anyone is being pointed on, it is Dsa and Jagya, for not looking into M's feelings.
But having said that, Dsa and J right, if they do not want to entertain M in their house. And this is what Anandi is being picked on: With what rights did she choose to bring M to BH, when the BH members had already warned her against it?

If Anandi wants to help M, she can, but then let her shift into her "own" place. She cannot expect BH folks to accept M in "their" house against their wishes.


BH folks were never obliged to keep Anandi, Nandini or Mangala even in the past. They did it out of their love and concern for Anandi. Now they do not want this "tension" named Mangala in their house / lives , and since they have pointed it out, you chose to discount all their efforts / help/ concern for Anandi for so many years and termed it is a "circumstances"?

Or is that because Anandi at some point helped them, they should bear with all her decisions for the rest of their lives? No, BH folks (or even Anant) have no such obligations towards Anandi.

The fact is that BH folks or Anant have already finished returning favours to Anandi long back and in bigger magnitudes. They only made extra efforts for her for this re-union because they wanted to help her in getting her happiness, but that doesn't mean they have to support her in her Mangala mission too.

So while no one is discounting what Anandi did for others many years ago, it is also true that the others have done and are doing much more for her just out of love and concern, not out of obligation.



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Posted: 9 years ago
#39
If Dsa and J had enough of Mangala they have every right to refuse to help or support Anandi in this.
If they don't want to do anything to with Mangala it is their wish.
Ultimately it is an individual's decision about how she/he feels about something.
But what right do they have to tell Anandi not to go and help Mangala?
If Anandi thinks BH is her home she was made to think that way.It is Dsa who has given her rights.Then she should have told Anandi at the beginning itself that she is welcome to stay at BH or consider BH as her own home Singhs as her family as long as she does what is acceptable to them.
It is said that Anandi was the root cause of Ganga's problems and Shivam was the reason for Abhi's insecurity then Anandi and her daughter richly compensated by risking their lives to free Ganga from Akheraj's clutches.
If Jagya helped her chase Mangala she helped Jagya trace Mannu
If Anant tried to help her re uniting with her daughter so did Anandi by helping Nidhi get over her problems with alcohol and rebellious attitude.
All of them were helping each other from time to time.
None of them were obliged to help Anandi nor was Anandi obliged to help them.
Neither Anandi beg them to help her or went to them crying.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#40
It is wrong to say anandi did not cry. Many times she cried leaning on dadisa's shoulders and in front of others, she clearly expressed her sadness and disappointment.

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